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3 X 600 hps = how much bud?

Agent-Smith

Member
i call bs to this 100% show us how its done> even pro's arent getting this> thats more then a few grams per watt.

BTW, that works out to 1.866 GPW which is attainable by many people. Use a calculator next time, you won't sound so stupid.

Heath Robinson gets over 2.2 GPW and I don't hear people say bullshit to him!
 

BENJI

Between the Devil and the deep blue sea...
ICMag Donor
Veteran
"Beleive in half of what you see and none of what you hear"...I'm good 2 cheers...
 

Kush_Master

High Grade Specialist
Veteran
a conservative estimate is 0,5g/w. if youre good, have selected clones and your setup dialed in you should be able to get up to 1g/w and more.
 

Agent-Smith

Member
Go for it, I know what I can do...too bad you all have your heads too far up your own asses to wait around and find out. I by no means am trying to claim I grow more than anyone around. As I said before, Heath Robinson has done well over 2 GPW and Drbudgreenjeans says he gets over 3GPW with his method so why does mine seem SOOOOO far fetched at only 1.86GPW?? I guess it's because most of you haven't done it and won't ever so you think it is impossible. Well you guys didn't invent or build computers, electricity, mobile phones, etc., etc. So are you saying they don't exist or can't be done? Wake up guys, don't be a downer to others just because you aren't smart enough or able enough to do something yourself. I thought this was a "community" where people encourage each other to push the boundaries of what is "thought" to be the best and to try and achieve new marks in what can and can't be done not a shit slingin forum. Guess I was wrong......

Oh and I think it's funny how you gang up on me instead of saying good job or hey can you teach me how you do it. Real FAMILY and COMMUNITY we got goin here don't ya think??
 

~fvk~

the Lion is going Guerrilla...
If I were to do it, 7 1/2 LBS. You....not so sure. Vague question gets a vague answer. :D

So what, you use oversized spaces with deadly and overbearingly high plant numbers? Or what dude?

Stoney gets 3 pounds per 4x8 table, with 2 600's over them on a light mover. Thought that was pretty damn good myself but yeah, next time I upgrade I'm totally biting dude's style. I shoot for a pound every 3x3 myself, but yeah.
 
yes id like to see some onfo on those hjumbers are accomplished for my own sake....im always open to new ideas...speaking of had any one ever used a light mover inside a 4x8 tent?
 

AinSophAur

Member
I think agent-smith is talking about a vertical type setup (http://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html)
which could maybe yield what he is talking about but Agent-smith if you're going to boast about you're untypical style of growing and yield then you're going to have to back it up with a journal or pictures (to this day people still argue about DrBuds yields).

And if you can't back it up then stop acting like a douche and grow a pair of balls. Are you really that dumb to make a statement like that and not expect people to be suspicious
 
What a pointless pecker contest. Most of these inflated figures come down to...well bloated ego really, but also variations in how well the bud is trimmed and dried. I've been sold plenty of insufficiently dried, leafy buds that were much heavier than they should have been...more than double, really. I'm not saying people don't get 1 gram a watt yeilds, but most people juice the stats. Hype is an epidemic.
 

smoke1sun

What Goes Around Comes Around. But Am I Comming Or
Veteran
Heath Robinson gets over 2.2 GPW and I don't hear people say bullshit to him!

He shows it.

But not to prove anything to me or anybody else. I would like to see and here about your grow method. If your uncomfortable showing pics, thats cool give us a lil in depth info THANKS!!!!

P.S chill dude :joint:
 

Norkali

Active member
Who cares? If he says that's what he pulls then that's what he says. Choose to believe it or not; but don't expect any help if/when you find out he's telling the truth.

:2cents:
 
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Aerokush101

The only thing we are saying is show us? Nothing else! just SHOW US! I have never heard of 2 1/2 pound coming off a 600, even in vertical grow double stacked and that is a secret. So you tell me. If you mind me asking, what strain are you growing for this 2 1/2 lbs?
 

ClearBarbedFunk

lost in the Haze
ICMag Donor
Veteran
over the years ive seen plenty of growers that achive 1.5 to 2 gpw. there are some guys that can really make a plant go.

i have no problems with a 1.86 gpw claim.

CBF
 

Agent-Smith

Member
I think agent-smith is talking about a vertical type setup (http://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html)
which could maybe yield what he is talking about but Agent-smith if you're going to boast about you're untypical style of growing and yield then you're going to have to back it up with a journal or pictures (to this day people still argue about DrBuds yields).

And if you can't back it up then stop acting like a douche and grow a pair of balls. Are you really that dumb to make a statement like that and not expect people to be suspicious

Well first off, I think I have a right to get a little mad when I say something that I know to be true and people start coming at me calling me a liar and a bullshitter. Am I wrong in that assumption? You all don't know me any more than you know Bill Clinton so what gives you the knowledge to be able to call me out?

The GROW LOG that is in my signature tells about one of my grows and that one yielded 1.21 GPW and if you read the log it was plagued with problems. The link for that one is in my signature btw, if any of you even noticed. As I have said before, legal troubles meant me pulling all of my pictures for security reasons, but they will be back someday. Also, not everything I do is public fucking knowledge and I don't need to tell everyone every little move I make and grow that I build, so not everything I do in life is posted on these boards.

I'll give you my recipe for a 1.86 GPW grow, and I challenge any of you to do it and prove that it works for yourself. It's easy as hell, but takes a little bit of time and a bit more money, LOL Again I can't show pics of the actual setup at the moment, but I will show you a couple of pics of other grows so you get the idea of the layout.

Basically I have taken designs that work well for other people and tweak them to work for me and improve them wherever I can. The main part of the system is a copy of SoQuick's bucket setup which looks like this:
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And my bucket setup looks and functions almost exactly like his except my watering time is a 5 minutes every 30 minutes unlike his which was 30 seconds every 30 minutes. I also have less hydroton due to slightly different top buckets being used compared to his so the increase in watering was to help compensate and they don't dry out "ever" this way.


My nutrient regimen is an easy one. I use the LUCAS formula aka FloraNovaBloom at 8mL/gallon in RO water. No additives or bloom enhancers, or molasses, etc. Keep It Simple Stupid, if it works, go with it.

Now another big part of the design is the reflector and the fact that the entire grow is enclosed by "mylar board" which is simply Mylar glued to 1/8" Masonite sheeting. The reflector is a modified Parabola design that was designed and used by a fellow grower and friend from the original CannabisWorld named KeefTreeez who has since moved on to bigger and better things. As you can see from his pictures, he went through a few different Parabola designs before settling on one that he liked and the one that I use now. His design was 4 feet wide and 8 feet long using three 400W bulbs but would regularly put two together to make it 16 feet long which he named the grow tunnel.
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I have increased the size of the reflector and the amount of watts. My reflector is 5 feet wide by 12 feet long and I run three 600W bulbs on light movers over the distance so that the bulbs are never more than 4 feet away from each other at all times. The height of the reflector is adjustable as well, which really did help jump my numbers a little bit. I used to run the reflector from start to finish at the finishing height since it was a pain to try and design a way to adjust the height because of the fixed walls and doors. I have only 40 buckets setup underneath for now(which may be increased in the near future) and they are pulling 80-90g per bucket per grow.

And of course like a few have said, you must have a great strain to pull great numbers and I definitely do. I run Farmers Choice which is an amazing Columbian Sativa which has an 80 day flowering time but is well worth it in the end. There are a few members that have this strain here, and at OpenGrow. And I am more than willing to share the cut myself. I don't think any strain of marijuana should be kept away from the masses so everything I have and have ever had is free to the community as I am just paying back the help and love that was shown to me over the years.

So there you go, any more questions, feel free to ask, but just try and remember one thing for the future:

Don't call bullshit on someone unless you know you're right, all it does is make you sound like an asshole and makes others not want to help you. And until you are the best, don't act like others can't be better than you at something. We could have avoided that whole ugliness if you guys would have acted nicely at first instead of jumping to conclusions. :D
 

Agent-Smith

Member
And since these pics aren't a risk I can show you these. Just a couple shots to show the strain and how close I trim to dispute any ideas that I don't trim and that is why my weights are a little high. I trim very close as you can see, and the bud in the first pic is one of the colas that came off of a plant from my personal grow in the log which weighed in at 20.9 grams. The Farmers Choice really gives some good weight :D

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