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3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

I read all the way through this and never saw if you were running base npk nutes at full strength.
on the aptus website they reccomend running half strength
 

Dark Helmet

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joe he did answer that one before mate ill post it up for ya
Ok let me try to answer some of these questions first off as far as employes I am part of a collective so we have patiense who trim usally around 10 people come in to trim.. As far as how many people I have 3 that I over see they have daily things I give them to do but its all on my shoulders as far as what we give the plants and when.. I bust my ass every day I work 7 days a week,As you know its alot of work... We have one person in charge of moms and cuttings thats there only job and its the best thing we ever did. It really all starts in the mom room..
 

SkizOflan

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Jack you don't mention ph when applying the tea. Do you pre-ph the water before adding bennies, or after, or not at all? Wasn't sure if the ph down would hurt them..
 

joe fresh

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joe he did answer that one before mate ill post it up for ya


thx man....i just hate searching through a thread that blew up this quick because there ends up being alot of garbage to sort through...takes long and somethime you dont even find it cuz you passed over it, lol
 

SkizOflan

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Ok, I think people are misunderstanding the conversation. It doesn't seem that anyone is genuinely DOUBTING Jacks growth, at least I'm not. Pictures are there, can't really see why anyone wouldn't believe what they see. Personally, I'm just fascinated by what I'm seeing, and would love to see a daily photojournal to actually get a feel for what it looks like on a daily basis when a plant grows that fast. Of course it possible, especially with our plant aka 'weed' but we all must admit it's still hard to visualize it. I'm sure everyone here has thought they've seen explosive growth at one time in their garden but clearly Jack is proving that none of use have REALLY seen what the plant can do, and how quickly!

Please, to all the refuters and people that just want to argue with other people - think before you type. We are not here to debate Jacks plants and whether not not what we are seeing is real. It is. Deal with it. Let's all take an academic approach, and start asking Jack the right questions. Who knows, maybe we will learn a thing or two if we focus the discussion on his room, techniques, experience, etc rather than his credibility.

This is an immensely positive opportunity for all of us involved in the online growing community to expand our knowledge and understanding, but it all starts with intelligent questions. Aptus is not a panacea, and I can assure all of you that if we crack his techniques and get the bottom of his system, setup, and work ethic, we can all grow like Jack.

Cheers.
 
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Nondual

we can all grow like Jack.
I wanna be like Jack lol. Awesome thread and great info. The recent set of pics have me going like...whoa. I agree that Aptus is not a panacea but seems for someone who has their stuff dialed in it could really kick things up to the next level.
 

abellguy

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Ok, I think people are misunderstanding the conversation. It doesn't seem that anyone is genuinely DOUBTING Jacks growth, at least I'm not. Pictures are there, can't really see why anyone wouldn't believe what they see. Personally, I'm just fascinated by what I'm seeing, and would love to see a daily photojournal to actually get a feel for what it looks like on a daily basis when a plant grows that fast. Of course it possible, especially with our plant aka 'weed' but we all must admit it's still hard to visualize it. I'm sure everyone here has thought they've seen explosive growth at one time in their garden but clearly Jack is proving that none of use have REALLY seen what the plant can do, and how quickly!

Please, to all the refuters and people that just want to argue with other people - think before you type. We are not here to debate Jacks plants and whether not not what we are seeing is real. It is. Deal with it. Let's all take an academic approach, and start asking Jack the right questions. Who knows, maybe we will learn a thing or two if we focus the discussion on his room, techniques, experience, etc rather than his credibility.

This is an immensely positive opportunity for all of us involved in the online growing community to expand our knowledge and understanding, but it all starts with intelligent questions. Aptus is not a panacea, and I can assure all of you that if we crack his techniques and get the bottom of his system, setup, and work ethic, we can all grow like Jack.

Cheers.

Very well put, and I am for sure with you on your motivation :rasta:
 

jackmayoffer

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Jackmeoffer, what is the difference in the 2 wifi cuts you have and which is your favorite? I have the wifi #3 and I am letting it reveg outside as I only had a mother plant. should have taking cuts of her before.....but live and learn.
I run 5 different Wifi cuts all different all great. There are alot of fake #3 phenos out there the ones I run where all found by me popping 100's of seeds.. except the#3 found by Crome I have #3,#27,#28,#37,94. Im re running the 94 after 1 seed run and 1 plant she is a beast and is bigger and stronger then any plant I have.

big thanks for sharing Jack, anyone whos in the know can tell your legit. peace man
Thanks Bro..:biggrin:
LOL at the skeptics in this thread. Complacency with what you do will keep you from advancing. If you've never grown in a sealed room you have no room to even begin to doubt Jack. And if you have and are still doubting then your doing it wrong.
:woohoo:
Jack did you start out running the full line or just the regulator to begin with?
I ran the full line in my first non sealed room and only hit 1.25 to 1.5 per light the flavor was there the bag apeal was there but the room suffered form cold temps and no co2.. After doing one room with no co2 I quickly realized its a huge piece to the puzzle. Then ran it with and with out and the Aptus was bigger and better..
I read all the way through this and never saw if you were running base npk nutes at full strength.
on the aptus website they reccomend running half strength
I never ever run full strength and never flush until the end,I will get my full nute reggie once I get some time in the next few days basicly start out at 550 ppm and slowly raise to 800 to 1000ppm depending on plant size and how the room is responding plants get Aptus 2 to 3 times a week, Tea is given once a week and the other days just base nutes, We foliar feed 1 to 2 times a week also with either the tea or canna boost..
Jack- looking great homie. looking forward to #37 and damn those things are packing on early!
Run that girl you have some other jems also hit me up if you need them back I have a few that are even better..:biggrin:

Jack you don't mention ph when applying the tea. Do you pre-ph the water before adding bennies, or after, or not at all? Wasn't sure if the ph down would hurt them..
We do not PH the tea.no need
Ok, I think people are misunderstanding the conversation. It doesn't seem that anyone is genuinely DOUBTING Jacks growth, at least I'm not. Pictures are there, can't really see why anyone wouldn't believe what they see. Personally, I'm just fascinated by what I'm seeing, and would love to see a daily photojournal to actually get a feel for what it looks like on a daily basis when a plant grows that fast. Of course it possible, especially with our plant aka 'weed' but we all must admit it's still hard to visualize it. I'm sure everyone here has thought they've seen explosive growth at one time in their garden but clearly Jack is proving that none of use have REALLY seen what the plant can do, and how quickly!

Please, to all the refuters and people that just want to argue with other people - think before you type. We are not here to debate Jacks plants and whether not not what we are seeing is real. It is. Deal with it. Let's all take an academic approach, and start asking Jack the right questions. Who knows, maybe we will learn a thing or two if we focus the discussion on his room, techniques, experience, etc rather than his credibility.

This is an immensely positive opportunity for all of us involved in the online growing community to expand our knowledge and understanding, but it all starts with intelligent questions. Aptus is not a panacea, and I can assure all of you that if we crack his techniques and get the bottom of his system, setup, and work ethic, we can all grow like Jack.

Cheers.
could not of said it better...
I wanna be like Jack lol. Awesome thread and great info. The recent set of pics have me going like...whoa. I agree that Aptus is not a panacea but seems for someone who has their stuff dialed in it could really kick things up to the next level.
Yes you are correct..
 

Mia

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Great info thanks for sharing.
I now know what I want to be when I grow up.
Man I wish I had the luxury of pheno hunting through hundreds of beans.
Sounds like a lot of work, but a lot of fun.
 

true grit

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Yeah I'll def holla when i get things settled and im sure ill give some aptus a go too.

Did you see the pix of my white urk? you may like that one, bitch blows up huge and reeks. bout to do another pop today and find some new new outta some rare ones. fingers crossed...
 

GDK

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I will do so next round all rooms are in flower I am working on a time lapse video for all the rooms.I have talked about this before when it comes to veg time there are a few tricks that we do to make the plants explode with growth that just blow me away everytime.. If the co2 is put at 1500 ppms temps are raised no fans on and we wet down the floors the plants will concentrate on root growth, The roots will explode but the plants will stall a few days later same temps wet floors we turn down co2 levels 1000 ppm the plants will double and tripple in size in just a few days..:thank you:When you have 100 plus lights in flower all the time and work 14 hrs a day 7 days a week you start to figuer out things and start dialing in the rooms you have moments where nothing happens but every once in a great while I go oh shit what just happened :woohoo:..Everything we do is written down every room has a white bord with a calender we try things and go back to see what worked and what did not.I can honestly say are rooms are fucking dialed I never see diesease. There is never mold we are always preventing not fighting.We do not spend the day medicated until after work this is hard work..I am humbel and I always share what I have learned I feel it will come back if I ever need help.. Some of the best growers in nor cal that have been growing for 20 to 30 years have spent some time with me in my rooms and have gone back home and called me a couple days later and have completly tore down there rooms and started over. Im not the best grower but I think I have figured out a few things to put us a step above some of the others.. We work hard and are always trying new things.Its a big science experiment that all of us have been told what is rite but that dosent mean it is,:thank you: If I had a nickel for everytime an engineer has told me I have never seen that before that is impossible I would have $2.75 thats alot of nickels...

We count flower the next day after we flip so if we flipped tonight the next night is day 1:tumbleweed:. I can post 5 different rooms all from week 1 to week 5 and in between not one yellow leaf no deficiency they all look stellar some phenos will look like week 5 at week 3 some will look like week 2 at week 5. We have popped thousands of seeds every run we dedicate a room to new phenos and crosses thats my favorite part of growing.True Og's will not start stacking until week 5 crosses with the White usally week 2, When most people plant a pack of seeds we will plant 100 packs of seeds, I have grown 300 different White Fire Phenos and only kept 5, Most where better then 90% of what alot of people grow. I am spending the next year of growing dedicated to new crosses and pheno hunting well I over see everything else..:woohoo: Aptus does cause an insane flower set crazy early it also causes them to get super swollen super early its shaven off a good 7 to 12 days on most of our strains... I will test my strains at any lab against any strain out there some will be better most wont.. I have done it before and the ones that have come out of the Aptus room have always come back with higher #'s..Sorry if you have been growing for 20 years with out a sealed room with C02 and hitting 2.5 plus a light every run and getting 4 to 5 harvest a year.. Keep doubting I will keep crushing it..I come on here to share my experience doubt all you want.There is a couple other tricks but since you know them all I why bother...


THIS!!
Aptus is the shit no doubt, and surely it contributes to the fast flower onset, and massively great overall health. Im on my first grow with it and am seing significantly better results, like improved health, growth rates, resistance, uptake and flower onset.
But i believe the key to Jacks astronomically impressive results cant just be chalked up to the use of Aptus products. This guy knows his shit!!! He pops thousands of seeds, to find them phenos hes displaying here...thats a first very major step in this kinda growth..he looks for certain things and doesnt keep anything that wont cut it. i truly believe the pheno selection is responsible for at least 50% of these crazy results. Add the sealed room enviroment, co2, and worldclass gardener abilities and tricks being used and the discipline these guys have..and thats how these results are produced...if this was as easy as just buying a few bottles of Dutch ferts and additives...we would all be growing like Jack.
That being said...Aptus is most definately a part of my lineup for the future based on my own personal results so far..this stuff really is great...but dont go buying it, thinking your yields and quality will magically double.

Stay Safe
 

headees

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Amazing stuff Jack, I would like to see your nutrient regiment when you get a chance.

I actually ordered some fasilitor because I need to stop the stretch in my vert room, and seems like a way better option than bushmaster. I cant afford the whole line, but what other Aptus bottles do you think are key, if you could only run one or two besides fasilitor? I was thinking Bloom Booter and one of the finishing boosters, but not sure.

Also are you foliar feeding with capulator's regular 'nute pack', or do you have the 'foliar pack' as well?
 

SkizOflan

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Jack,

Just brewed my first batch of bennies! :thank you: Although I was expecting to see/smell a change in the solution after brewing for 24hrs. I followed your recipe to the T, minus the alfalfa as I couldn't get it in time. Do you notice a change in the mix after brewing 24hrs, or is it pretty much the same milky whitish brownish color with an organic aquarium smell after? Just want to compare notes, I know these things (biological) if not performed correctly can easily go awry.

Also, I think you water with bennies 'alone' the day that you do.. Just wondering if they can go into a mix with nutrient salts, or will that kill/hinder them?

Thanks!
 

jackmayoffer

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Amazing stuff Jack, I would like to see your nutrient regiment when you get a chance.

I actually ordered some fasilitor because I need to stop the stretch in my vert room, and seems like a way better option than bushmaster. I cant afford the whole line, but what other Aptus bottles do you think are key, if you could only run one or two besides fasilitor? I was thinking Bloom Booter and one of the finishing boosters, but not sure.

Also are you foliar feeding with capulator's regular 'nute pack', or do you have the 'foliar pack' as well?
I foliar with the tea I brew ar 1/4 strength.
CAPS bennies - thanks jack for turning me on ..... amazing stuff
It is amazing stuff i would never grow with out.
Jack,

Just brewed my first batch of bennies! :thank you: Although I was expecting to see/smell a change in the solution after brewing for 24hrs. I followed your recipe to the T, minus the alfalfa as I couldn't get it in time. Do you notice a change in the mix after brewing 24hrs, or is it pretty much the same milky whitish brownish color with an organic aquarium smell after? Just want to compare notes, I know these things (biological) if not performed correctly can easily go awry.

Also, I think you water with bennies 'alone' the day that you do.. Just wondering if they can go into a mix with nutrient salts, or will that kill/hinder them?

Thanks!

You need lots of bubbles the more the better im talking the biggest pump you can get. You should have alot of foam at the top. You will see your plants respond in 2 days your leaves will be super green and shine.. If there is not enough air mixing everything up it will just be milky white instead of brown with foam at the top. Hope this helps bro.
 

Mr Celsius

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Please show us your undercurrent room jack. I'm very interested how a professional 'tree' grow is setup.
 

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