3 plus 3=?

[GMT]

Hi Jay, thanks for calling in bud, this thread has just crossed the 10,000 views mark, which is normally the point I make a new thread, but this time I'm staying put. To answer your Q, the one on the left is multitopped, but I'll leave it with 5 colas (one was taken as a clone). The tri on the right had most of the branches towards the wall removed, but inward facing branches left. I'm not a fan of lst, and only use it as a fall back position. If a plant gets tall, I'd rather side light it than lst it. On a side warning note to anyone reading who suffers from hayfever, dont forget to stock up on anti allergy stuff when making seeds. AARRRCHOOOO!

 

[GMT]

Weekly update:

 

[Core]

just some + for ya bro ...looking green and lush...as always

 

[GMT]

^Thanks mate, good to see ya.

1 pic for the weekly update as usual, this time pistils forming on the top. I'll do a few pics per update once there are a few things per update to see.

 

[GMT]

Seeds are starting to develop now

 

[SMP]

How's it going my Lazy growing friend????

Nice plants and pics as always!!!

I'm back from vacation with a new nic and wanted to stop by and say HI!!!

GCG

 

[GMT]

Hey there old timer (IC speaking), whats with the disguise? Either way, glad ya stopped by and let me know you've regenerated. This thread's so quiet these days I'm expecting a tumble weed to blow through soon.

 

[SMP]

Yeah it sure does seem like a lot of the old timers have gone away??? but don't worry my friend I'm still here!!!!

are you still as lazy as me???? LMAO

GCG

 

[Queso45]

I don't know if this has been covered or not... but it seems like there's a good collection of info regarding the plants with what I know as whorled phyllotaxy. Anyway... about 6 months ago I planted a northern lights seed that turned out to be a 3-leaf poly-whatever. It continued to grow the 3 leaf pattern all the way until I finished flowering.

Now... I cloned this plant, and the clone does not have the 3 leaf pattern. It is a normal looking plant.

 

[GMT]

Hey SMP, good to know you're going to be around for the forseeable, you know me, eternally lazy. This round I managed to get round to growing 2 girls and 1 boy, any more than that would be far too much like hard work.

Hi Queso, yeah that's still an apropriate term, but since it refers to quads as well as tris, I just tend to be precise in this thread. What are your intentions with your girl, breeding or smoking? I've tried using non tri clones from tri girls, and tri clones from non tri girls (single branch showing the trait), the quantities of tri's in the offspring is always low even breeding a tri with a tri. But they all pass the trait onto some of their offspring. And the more generations you include the trait in one or more of the parents, the higher the ratio in the offspring. Hope that's of some use to ya.

 

[Propoline]

Hey GMT

Your plants look so great & happy in there. Looks like they are receiving lots of love. I didn't read through your thread, but I saw some trifoliar seedlings pic. I had 4 durban, 3 HB & 3 Speed queens seedlings that were topped around 4 node. On one durban and 1 SQ the side branch came out trifoliar. Only one branch on whole plant. Could it because of stress? Are all your ladies from seed? It will be interesting to see the yield compared to rest the normal ones.

Hope you don't mind if I put a pic or two?


Left one Speed Queen clone, on right is Durban clone that looks a bit confused (from bottom up 3...1...5...%&$#)




Propoline

 

[GMT]

Hi Prop, my tri adventure started with a branch just like your SQ, now they come straight from seed. I like the look of the SQ clone, but like you said, I think the Durban is just confused. That one looks more like several branches coming from one node than lots of separate nodes. I saw you comment that you were planning on a comparison on the yields, that should be interesting.

 

[GMT]

The girls got a little cramped in the layout they were in, so I opened things up a bit. I raised the tri a little so it'll get the light coming in from its side, and the other girl can sit under the light (now positioned at 45 degrees). Here's a pic, sorry its slightly out of focus, I' playing with a new cam, and need to play a bit more to get used to its querks, although the white balance is great, (olympus again), this is under the glare of a 400w hps.

 

[GMT]

couple of shots, BN in B/W, irrelevant in colour

 

[Core]

Still working the magic ey...any more progress on the tri breeding project...?still could't isolate the tri trait? if thats possivle at all...but i think it should be possible no?
Nway like them pics you take the last few months...keep it up my friend

 

[GMT]

LOL, Hi Core, I knew no one was paying attention these days. The girl in the back of the pic, the BN, is my F4 BN girl, she is a tri, pollinated with the tri male BNF4, whose parents were the BNF3 tri male and female, whose parents were the BN F2s, Tri Male and tri Female, The BN F1 female was normal but her husband was tri, and her mother, grandmother, and great great grandmothers were tri. Each generation, I'm getting a little closer, but I dont think I'll get a new species that are all tri for around 10,000 years or so, that seems to be the time line that evolution takes in nature.
It does go to show though that these breeders who claim to have taken a plant showing a pheno, and crossing it to another plant showing the same pheno, and claiming that the off spring will reliably show the same pheno, are either uninformed, or using sales tactics to sell to the uninformed.

 

[NZjay]

thats an amazing project GMT. ive never had a tri! would be incredible if you could breed that in! best of luck!!

packed them in like sardines i see! lol.. and i like the black and white pics
take care mate!

 

[Core]

hehehe its hard to keep track mate...but i still know what the thread is about ey...gimme some credit for that lol......no serious...its been a while since we talkt about this subject ..and the progress ofcaurse...but i think its possible...i tell you why i think this....some1 onhere has send me some seeds...and i started 6 of them....after a few days roots appeard and i could seperate 1 obvious twin wich i broke ....but i still potted them all...few days later all appeard above surface and there woz like 3 more twins....these 3 where separated and they lived...now a few weeks later i discoverd yet another twin...this one came up later so thats why i missed it.....so thats 5 twins...i started 6 and i ended up with 11....individuals... of wich 9 lived....why am i telling you this you may ask??? i'm just wondering... could it be that this guy may of stumbled on the Twin trait without knowing...could this be??...or am i seeing to much SiFi movies ??
give us ya

ohw dude and i don't think it would take 10000 years ....maybe in free nature ...but not if plants are selected...this will reduce your time to what ...1000 years lol...J/K on the last :wink:

 

[GMT]

Ah Visitors !

Hi Jay, thanks, although its becoming more of an obsession now than a project lol. I'm doing my best, but since I want to keep all the best tris for breeding, I'm still a little too stingy to send my precious beans in for freebies. Another round or two yet before anyone gets to try em, appart from one uker who was sent some to try.

Hi Core, dont worry, you get plenty of credit mate, I think you're the last of the originals left. I ran into the twin thing myself, I think at the F3 stage, the first few seeds I sprouted were all twins, and my heart sank to be honest, but then not one more after that. I was more amazed at the odds of selecting a few twins out of hundreds of seeds the first germination round and none in any of the other rounds, than I was at seeing twins at all. It seems that twins are a symptom of the mother used rather than anything else. There are a few causes for twins, in our plant, I feel that it is most likely to be a phenomenon where the female produces more potential babies (in mamals, eggs per cycle) than normal. In seeds this gives the pollen 2 chances of fathering a seed per set of pistils. Or in other words, odds are 2 separate pollen grans pollinated each of the twins from one seed. This makes more sense than the other method of twins being generated, which is for one egg to split into two eggs, each containing the same dna. This trait in the mother is genetic, meaning that females born from females exhibiting this trait, may also inherrit the trait. It is for this reason that some families have a higher ratio of twins born within them than would seem statistically probable. So, to cut a long story short lol, ya, maybe.

 

[Poodo]

Hello again GMT I finally have a tri on my hands,I had two but one wilted off. so as soon as I saw these I thought of that rabbit on your profile haha.It's in 12/12 now after a week or two of veg.Thanx for your info