Thank you for explaining it to me!Well I'm gobsmacked. The 17 meter 24v a few of us have. It will provide 675L and still hold a bar.
Interesting. I was unaware that peak current could still be achieved at the lower voltage. I had figured I'd be fine pushing what I assumed would be a tad above 3a at 21v. Even though it's a 2.5a PSU given the short 60-90 second bursts that it takes for a proper feed, the fact that 2.5a is likely the continuous rating and that burst ratings often tend to be a tad higher I figured it'd be fine. I did find a 5a 9-24v available here that I'm going to order though just for safety's sake:Lowering the voltage to an EC motor slows it down, though peak current is usually still reached. Just delayed. Thus speed is more effected than torque. Translating to a lowered flow, but not so greatly reduced pressure capability.
I notice the pump is rated 3.6 amp, but your power supply 2.5 amp. This will reduce the torque as the PSU is likely current limiting. Many a PSU won't start up in these circumstances, so it's good to see this one will.
Guess I forgot to reply to this but I definitely did notice this effect. When hand watering with the pump at 12v I'd get a probably 10-12 second ramp up while it built pressure in the tube and started to increase flow. At 24v this was almost instant and the flow was more or less the same. Got the 120w psu in but haven't set it up yet. Did wonder a bit about that math but the pump worked so i wasnt gonna think too hard . Will see how the new psu works shortly.It's purely academic, but the motor windings are a very low resistance. They don't offer much resistance to current flow at all. The current limiting is done within the controller. The rise in winding current isn't instantaneous though. The higher the voltage, the quicker it happens. This is what speeds the motor along. Higher voltage means peak current is arrived at sooner. As the motor turns, the controller senses it's position by watching the coils pass the magnets. Applying the power at the right angle. This is timing we can effect with the speed the current builds within the winding, using different voltage. It's almost like a soft start, and likely softens the vibration accordingly. What little vibration there is.
The PSU is a little odd. It's 60w. With 24v that's about 2.5 amps. 24v2.5=60odd. However, the max current is 5 amps. That would be at 12v or less. 12x5=60odd. Erm.. 60/3.6=17volts.
There must be a micro controller in there, looking at voltage and controlling current accordingly.
The 120w PSU should offer 5 amps and 24v at the same time.
There are a few pumps being talked about. Typically 12v that run from 6-12, Or 24v that run from 12-24. They are all DC pumps though, so won't work on the AC lighting transformer.So for these to work I need the pump and PSU any links to the PSU I would need, will the PSU run from a standard AC electrical timer between it and the mains? Im on 240 volt mains.
Would something like this power these pumps.
240V to 12VAC 105VA Lighting Transformer | Jaycar Electronics
This transformer delivers 105W at 12VAC. It will power 2 x 50W halogen globes or 5 x 20 watt. Ideal for 5 x 20W pathway lights, for example. Transformer is not waterproof and needs to be kept indoors.www.jaycar.com.au
Thanks for that, too late on the octobubblers Ive already bought them they are in transport so the pump got to be able to create enough psi to run them properly.There are a few pumps being talked about. Typically 12v that run from 6-12, Or 24v that run from 12-24. They are all DC pumps though, so won't work on the AC lighting transformer.
The smaller pumps will run on a wall wart (a lump that plugs in) while the bigger pumps want something that looks like a laptop brick. Though not a laptop one, as they are usually 19v
A few of the links are to pumps and PSU combinations. Perhaps the most useful pump here is the 17m head one, which can be purchased with PSU.
If you are struggling with your purchase, post up your exact requirements and I (or someone that fancies a crack at it) will give you a couple of choices.
Don't buy them fecking octobubblers. There are direct replacements that work, but the octobubblers have no place in a domestic environment, unless it's straight from the tap.