3 diffrent coco methods at once!!

[JITAMON]

ALOHA! I have decided to use coco for the first time in my indoor medical garden. here is the breakdown on my garden.
main room:
6' x 6' x 8'
1 600w gavita hps
1 4" vortex fan attached to my carbon scrubber for exhaust
2 tower fans to circulate air
1 2x4 hydro table for the 600w hps
1 4" dc brushless fan attached to my homemade light baffle for fresh air input

clones /mothers:
2 ft x 2 ft
2 2ft cool white floro's
bubble cloners
1 litre square pots filled with canna coco

strains:
purple dragon
blackberry kush
purple erkle
ww x catpiss x cronic


I have decided to use Canna coco a+b and rhizotonic. i also have most of the 2+ line from advanced nutrients. i currently use 5ml of a+b and
1.25 ml of SENSICAL/MG. is this right? do i have to add the sensical if i use canna coco a+b? can i add advanced nutrient supplements to canna coco a+b? how much rhizotonic should i use? can i use sensizyme with canna? i will post pics asap of my grow and plan on documenting progress , so any feedback is appreciated

 

[skin]

thanks for your input on my problems mate , will be watching to see how it is done !
good luck
skin

 

[JITAMON]

ALOHA

ALOHA

hi SKIN glad i can help. I NEED SOME HELP !!! I AM CONFUSED if i use r.o. water do i have to add sensical/mg? Am I better off using tap water with my canna coco a+b. or is a mix of 50/50 r.o. and tap water better. my feelings lean toward using ro water ,then adding sensical/mg to bring my ppm's up to match my tap water ppm,ec etc.... please someone tell me before i ruin my crop.

 

[Guest]

Your plants will tell you if they need any type of cal/mag solution.. all part of dialing in your plants =]

 

[-VT-]

I'd use tap first...if it messes the plants up...switch to RO....
Many Canna users have succes with tap water....what's your source water like? Is it hard or soft?
You'll have time to make adjustments...the plants aren't gonna die from tap water

good luck

 

[JITAMON]

gotcha!

gotcha!

hi thanx for the feedback! what i am seeing is a k,and mg and calcium deficency. i also see overwatering problems.i feel this is caused by not putting enough canna a+b and calmag in each gallon.then looking at my plants diagnosing ok growth and putting on more water n' nutes. thu overwatering and underfeeding my ladies.point counter point.so i read some were in someones post that 10 ml a+b works well. i have spent months searching these forums and all i need is someones educated answer please.i am asking nicely.someone somewhere can answer my questions. remember this is my first time with coco indoors not my first grow.no offense but i need real info not someones opinion thanx

 

[JITAMON]

water diagnosis.

water diagnosis.

ok so the water I am using is from an r.o machine at the corner store.it,s glacier brand ro water. it is from 7-7.3 p.h on my hanna. 0-4 ppm. i add 5 ml a+b and 1.25-2.5 ml of sensical to get a p.h of 5.7 or so with 450 ppm on my hanna. maybe this is not enough? i understand to add more,but i want to add advanced nutrients supplements. so if anybody can help with a recipe i will listen and probably try it on my test plants. i can fuck up a bunch of plants for awhile ,then go on this forum and tell you guys what NOT to do,or somebody who has gone through this can help. i am using advanced nutrient calculator at the weakest setting for bloom.i just substitute canna A+B for monkey juice. nobody has said wether this is right or wrong.thats why i started this thread. to show everybody 3 diffrent methods of growing in coco and was hoping for intelligent feedback as i go to minimize my grower error.i appreciate any help!! here is some pics of my last garden in soiless medium so all you sceptics take me seriously lol

 

[-VT-]

No offense taken....really

No offense taken....really

Am I better off using tap water with my canna coco a+b. or is a mix of 50/50 r.o. and tap water better. my feelings lean toward using ro water ,then adding sensical/mg to bring my ppm's up to match my tap water ppm,ec etc.... please someone tell me before i ruin my crop.

Well...I'll assume you have no idea what the EC of your source water is....I hope you get some solid answers from folks with experience....
Say ya have read the forums etc....I just recently read a post by the moderator of this forum (he uses canna coco nutes) say he uses tap water...guess ya missed that one....:wink: Also read several canna users say they don't even bother with all those additives...

Have you read Bonecarver OG's thread? Gaisumarius' threads? Damn man

remember this is my first time with coco indoors not my first grow.no offense but i need real info not someones opinion thanx

good luck finding what you seek

 

[JITAMON]

ok its like that!

ok its like that!

look vt i just said my ppm are 0-4 so that is like .004 ec. the moderator also lives in a place where his water source is diffrent.i cannot remember everything that everyone says if this forum is going to be a hard time i will not waste my time or yours.all i ask is for answers,is that too much to ask for? why am i getting a hard time i feel i am asking legitimate questions. can any body help me,or am i on my own?

 

[JITAMON]

i will test my tap water!

i will test my tap water!

OK i get it ,i dont know the ec or ppm cause i DONT USE IT. i use ro water. i asked if i should be using tap water instead of ro.easy question. i also said my gut tells me to match my ec of my tap after testing to match my ro water by adding sensical/mg,again i ask am i off or on in my thinking. please answer this question first then we can truly proceed with this thread

 

[JITAMON]

whats up?????????

whats up?????????

please moderator step in here!! i respect your opinion, that is why i posted on your forum.i truly believe you know the answers to my questions

 

[JITAMON]

yes i have read these threads

yes i have read these threads

i have for hours,days on end. after taking in that much info i confused myself.so many diffrent opinions to listen to ,so many diffrent strains,grow methods ect.. why are you so frustrated that i just dont understand fully.man, give a guy a break.you could help me you know seeing how you seem to know them. why the hassle -vt-. nobody help you either, just tell you to reread thread 's for days? i honestly dont have time to endlessly read every thread to get some simple answers. i bet other people want to know the same thing i seek. help a brother out!!

 

[Guest]

Hi, and yes its very confusing at the start, and even more so, I would think for an experienced grower.

Try this site for a download able chart..

http://www.canna-uk.com/dhtml/about.php

Apart from that happy growing.

PS I just adjust tap water.

 

[JITAMON]

getting somewhere!!

getting somewhere!!

thanx bro, although that url is not valid. i will just go to canna website. i appreciate your response.

 

[Guest]

No probs Bro, glad to been of help

I've been using canna for over a year, and its all I've ever grown in.

If its any help; I add 5mml of N per 10lites of a+b during vegging, once flowering starts I stop the N, and add 5mml of PK gradually build this up to the full amount over the next few weeks.

Plus I've found keeping the PH below 6 more rewarding.

peace and stuff.

 

[EddieShoestring]

-VT- I'd use tap first...if it messes the plants up...switch to RO....

i've been using tap water with Canna nutes and it's been fine

eddie

 

[JITAMON]

wondering

wondering

does adding ph up and down mess with the nutrient profile of canna?

 

[Guest]

Nope add the nutes, and adjust the PH after wards

 

[Guest]

hi thanx for the feedback! what i am seeing is a k,and mg and calcium deficency. i also see overwatering problems.i feel this is caused by not putting enough canna a+b and calmag in each gallon.then looking at my plants diagnosing ok growth and putting on more water n' nutes. thu overwatering and underfeeding my ladies.point counter point.so i read some were in someones post that 10 ml a+b works well. i have spent months searching these forums and all i need is someones educated answer please.i am asking nicely.someone somewhere can answer my questions. remember this is my first time with coco indoors not my first grow.no offense but i need real info not someones opinion thanx

Okay....if you read my thread, you'd know I have already made every mistake in the book with coco, a lot of them twice. When you desribe problems like you have above, it's usually one of two things. Maybe 3.
Question 1. You are using clones. Are they established clones? i.e. have good root systems?

Question 2. What is your water ph? Going in and the runoff?

Question 3. How often are you watering? Overwatering coco is pretty honking hard to do.

Be advised I have no ec meter, no ppm, no gadgets or meters at all. I use full range ph test strips to test ph.

Anser those questions and I think we can help you.

-VT- was one of the folks I lurked and read threads by and learned from when I was about midway thru my 2nd coco grow. I'd already scrapped one because of my incompetence before I started seeing his threads. Almost a year ago, there was very little info on coco. I count myself fortunate for having run across -VT- and gaius and bonecarver and of course my brothah from anothah nandro.

Let's all smoke a bowl and figure this out

 

[JITAMON]

here is some info!

here is some info!

aloha thanx for the support.her it goes. i am using clones that i rooted in a bubble cloner.they had some serious roots when i transplanted.i also have a seed plant that was planted dec 1. the ph of my water and nutes going in is between 5.8-6. what comes out read 5.8 and was ec .5 i was running to waste 1 -2 times a day. what i have noticed since i started this thread is my plants dont like any additives to the canna a+b? go figure.maybe they like em but not at the dose i gave em. which was 1.25 ml of b52 and 1.25 ml f-1 fulvic and 1.25 sensical/mg and 2.5 ml scorpion and 5 ml of canna a+b. the next day i mixed up scorpion, voodoo juice tarantula and pirana and a little carboload and fed em. after that i noticed all the weird reactions.