250w HPS users....

[Poker_Toker]

thx for the pic, i just got an awesome idea for your cab. If you can find a cheap 70-150w hps or mh, you can do a v scrog as well as the 250 up top, you will get 2.5' of pure bud top to bottom.
tell me more about your setup, you keep water in them at all times?

 

[THC•20]

3dDream I had no idea clones would grow that big in those small cups lol. I went and ordered 100 1 gal. grow bags..oh well. Anyways how much do you usually yield. I am doing an SOG or at least attempting to. God I need to pull at least 8 oz/ grow lol. I needs my herb ya heard me! lol jk..but seriously I have a 250 and right now I'm in the progress of a perpetual type thing. I got 5 plants flowering now and I got 8 vegging clones and more on the way. On an average how much time (how many weeks) would you veg your clones to get at least an 1/2 oz. from them if you were vegging them under 24/0 veg time?

 

[3dDream]

THC - I am still building up my cab/grow. All of my grows so far have been in search of moms, so as far as the max yeild, we can only go by the best result from the best plant. The papaya was my first test with growing in cups. That plant yielded 10.6 grams after dry/cure. I use rapid rooters in a dome and clone until I see roots. Next I transplant into cups and place in flower, zero veg time. My current grow is my first w/ 100% cups and there are a few plants that are larger than the papaya. I would say 14+ grams a cup is very doable if you over feed and use clones from a high yielding mother. For my 3rd run, I want to keep the clones 2-3", I had too many large clones grow too tall. I will limit the amount of food next time as well. My goal is 1-1.5' plants, anything taller and the HPS is useless at the bottom.

Good luck!

 

[otherwhitemeat]

Guys, new to the site but been lurking here for a while. May I join the club?

I veg under two MH lights (175 and 100) and flower under a 250HPS. I was gifted the lights by a dude who didn't get proper permission from the wife. Apparently, 'do whatever the hell you damn well please' does not mean what he thought it did.

Been around the block for years, but finally decided to do something to make my family more self sufficient. Just a small personal setup, pseudo stealth. with a 4" Can Fan and carbon filter. All bagseed baby! I have a small housefan blowing on the girls to keep the air moving and some passive vents with hepa filters cut into the sides (hidden by boxes) I use a 250 HPS for flower, FFOF soil and Botanicare PBP nutes all in 2 gal buckets. Flipped to 12/12 about 24 days ago and things are going great! Don't know if it's beginner's luck or not, but of the 4 beans I hatched ALL are lovely ladies!!!! SSHHHHHHAAAAWEEEEEET. I tried cloning and failed miserably. I tried scrogging but thought I had some dudes and waited too long, now it's too late. Just decided to go BUSHY on my first attempt. This site rules, and I have you ALL to thank for my success!!! Thank you!!!!

Outside of my special place. Minimal light leaks, in my basement in a locked storage room. Cab is really just for odor control as my furnace is two feet away!

Since this is my first time, I didn't scrog and I guess my ballast room is a bit big and poorly organized. Oh well, going to start a veg/clone cab too...Next!


Yes, the HPS makes things veeerry orange in photos. Tried white balancing but lost interest.


And here's some amateur canna-porn. It's a GIRL!

 

[Deft]

How the 250s going?

 

[otherwhitemeat]

How the 250s going?

Things are going great...Luv my 250! My girls are having a little N deficiency, but they are still doing well. Just another 4 weeks!

 

[Deft]

Finally got my 250 up and running, its damn bright compared to 200w of cfl!

Here is what it looked like when it came from econolight.







And here it is mostly rigged up.

 

[otherwhitemeat]

Deft. That's a snazzy little setup...is that an Ammo Box to hold the ballasts in? kewl

 

[minds_I]

Hello all,

Ammo boxes rock.

minds_I

 

[Poker_Toker]

Hello all,

Ammo boxes rock.

minds_I

I bet thats one happy ballast! I have mine mounted by my vortex right on the wood so the air whooshes around and goes out of the cab, but i think i am going to get an ammo box for it with a fan like yours, damn cool

 

[FreezerBoy]

I tried cloning and failed miserably.

Don't give up! Took me at least 6 tries, maybe more. I ended up with a mish mash of techniques. There are many different methods. What works perfectly for some provides 100% failure for others. Keep trying, mixing and matching, until you have a method that you can depend on. Cloning is possible and it ROCKS.

 

[otherwhitemeat]

Don't give up! Took me at least 6 tries, maybe more. I ended up with a mish mash of techniques. There are many different methods. What works perfectly for some provides 100% failure for others. Keep trying, mixing and matching, until you have a method that you can depend on. Cloning is possible and it ROCKS.

Thanks, and I will not give up! I had some great beginner's luck, popped 5 seeds--4 survived, all are female. I had one that I thought was definately male so I abused it--chop, chop trim. It matured about a month before the other gals, when I went to 12/12 and it became my best producer by far. I wish I had been able to clone her. Any ideas for revegging or cloning after 12/12. I am sure that's not easy, but I'd love to clone this gorgeous gal!

All from bagseed, another friend used some seeds I gave him and guess what. 4 out of 4 are girls! My friend gets these sacks that have maybe 10 beans to a zip, all the info I have been able to uncover is that these are spontaneous seeds that come late in flower from stresses. Not sure if it's true but someone told me they are likley to be gals and this can't just be coincidence!

Was going to scrog, but though I had some dudes so I waited until 12/12 and all my clones died. So back to the bagseed in a month or so unless I can clone out my big Amazon bitch after 12/12. This is so much fun, I can't believe I haven't done this sooner!!!

Toker, Deft--I guess the ammo boxes are good for heat dissipation? Sort of like a heat sink?

 

[Deft]

Yea its a .223 ammo box same size as 50 cal I think. It was over heating so I took the removable top off and "glued" on an old heat sync to the core and its dandy now. Cost me $6 and is a perfect size etc.

Minds I: how did you wire that comp fan in? I'd like to do the same thing since its kinda noisy with the top off but don't they run off of 12v?

I'd recommend an ammo box for a DIY ballast enclosure to anyone who is building their own. Probably best to get a core cap and ignitor kit without the huge security light though if you can, I gave the metal casing to some scroungers who recycle metals for cash lol.


Cloning is so easy for me at least, I've cloned a 1cm bud lol! Heres what that looked like as it was coming out of re-veg (notice weird leaves).



Check out JJscorpio's thread on cloning (in the indoor soil section I think).

 

[carl89]

My bbxnl#5 scrog under 250w lumatek hps. Currently at 62 days flower. Cutting within the week.

 

[FreezerBoy]

Any ideas for revegging or cloning after 12/12. I am sure that's not easy, but I'd love to clone this gorgeous gal!

I've never had luck revegging but, just successfully cloned 6 slips from a plant that was 3 weeks into 12/12.

I'm a rockwool and cloning gel kinda guy but, what really spelled success for me was soaking slips for one minute in full strength liguid Hormex prior to gel and cube.

 

[Deft]

The ammo box doesn't act like a heat sync on mine, but its a good steel enclosure of the right dimensions for cheep and it looks cool lol.

If your going to take a cut from a flowering plant take one thats low down closest to the base and take many as you can, dip the stem in rooting hormone and stick them in soil or like I do in a peat pot, Humidity domes seem to be counter productive from my experience, the cuts seem to root faster when there is 50-60% rh and moist soil/peat. With dome it takes them longer to root it seems, I guess because they don't HAVE to root right away lol.

 

[otherwhitemeat]

Deft and freezerboy, thanks for the cloning tips. What do you mean when you refer to 'slips'?

Carl, that sure is a sweet scrog you got goin there!!

 

[Deft]

I think he just means the stem of the cutting based on the pic.

 

[FreezerBoy]

Deft and freezerboy, thanks for the cloning tips. What do you mean when you refer to 'slips'?

Carl, that sure is a sweet scrog you got goin there!!

Slips is just another word for the cutting you take from the plant. An uncloned clone if you will.

 

[Deft]

Boy my plants really like the new 250hps, and its staying as cool or even cooler than the 200-230w of cfl I was using before which is great. I'd bet 250w of hps is better than 230w of mixed blue and orange CFL.