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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 42 60.0%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 28 40.0%

  • Total voters
    70

Cannavore

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Anarchists aren't right wing , but they aren't lefties either.Antifa is not void of political affiliation. Hard core left wing kooks Don't let anyone try to fool you.
They are basically occupie Wallstreet recycled
anarchists are indeed leftists
 
It’s only terrorism when not performed by the US or its allies. When it is it’s just called spreading democracy and freedom…
+1, good call. How long has the U.S been in peace time since 1776?

It seems as of late the dems have adopted the term democracy as yet a another division and propaganda tactic. I.e. Mr "Boogeyman" over there wants to destroy our democracy (even though the U.S is a constitutional republic).

All they need to do then is send the word out over the mockingbird media and place trump as the boogeyman, then what do we have within a very short time frame? Two attempts on his life.
 
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moose eater

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My data was not old and outdated. I knew it was accurate and current, but saw no point in a ping-pong game of 'did too... did not...'

The homelessness is a matter of economics more so than drugs themselves, and the lethality of drugs and drug overdoses in general is declining and has been... In fact, a lot of the drug use is a matter of compensating for the harshness of homelessness in a land that it now may well be a criminal act to lay down on public property.

Sieg fucking heil!!

FATAL DRUG OVERDOSES ARE IN DRAMATIC DECLINE

https://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/fatal-drug-overdoses-dramatic-decline-feature

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The numbers are still horrifically high, but dropping fast, for a variety of reasons.

Fatal drug overdoses have declined dramatically, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. (CDC). The provisional drug overdose count for the 12-month period ending in April shows a ten percent decrease in overdose deaths. While overdose deaths appear to have plateaued in 2021-2022, they declined by three percent between 2022 and 2023, a decline that has only accelerated.


Drug overdose deaths, which had been on the increase during the century's first two decades, exceeded 100,000 per year by mid-2021 and peaked at more than 111,000 per year in the summer of 2023. But by April of this year, the toll had dropped to 97,309.

"This is exciting," said Dr. Nora Volkow, head of the National Institute On Drug Abuse [NIDA]. "This looks real. This looks very, very real," she told National Public Radio (NPR).

"The trends are definitely positive," said Dr. Keith Humphreys, a nationally respected drug policy researcher at Stanford University. "This is going to be the best year we've had since all of this started," he told NPR.

The CDC's provisional data did not include any breakdown by substance, but according to NIDA, in recent years, fentanyl and its derivatives have been implicated in between two-third and three-quarters of all overdose deaths, followed by cocaine and methamphetamine, which are each involved in about one-fifth of overdose deaths.

There could be even better news coming. Some researchers think that an even larger decline in overdose deaths will become evident once the provisional data is updated.

"In the states that have the most rapid data collection systems, we're seeing declines of 20 percent, 30 percent," said Dr. Nabarun Dasgupta, an expert on street drugs at the University of North Carolina. The decline could be saving "roughly 20,000 lives" per year, he told NPR.

Different factors are at play to account for the decline. Part of it is users simply growing familiar with fentanyl, part of it can be attributed to harm reduction measures such as the widespread access to the opioid overdose reversal drug naloxone. And part of it probably has to do with the ending of pandemic era isolation and social dislocation.

"Expansion of naloxone and medications for opioid use disorder -- these strategies worked," said Dr. Volkow at NIDA.

"We've almost tripled the amount of naloxone out in the community," said Brad Finegood, who directs the overdose crisis response in Seattle "A year ago when overdose deaths continued to rise, I was really struggling with hope," he told NPR. "Today, I have so much hope," Finegood said.

"This is the largest decrease on record and the fifth consecutive month of recorded decreases," said Dr. Rahul Gupta, head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP -- the drug czar's office), calling for more money treatment and health services in poor Black and Native American communities where overdose deaths remain high. "There is no way we're going to beat this epidemic by not focusing on communities that are often marginalized, underserved and communities of color," Gupta said told NPR.

Still, the decline in overdose deaths already has been striking -- especially in the eastern and central US. In Vermont, they are down 22 percent. In Ohio, they are down 31 percent. In Missouri, 34 percent.

"While the mortality data for 2024 is incomplete and subject to change, Ohio is now in the ninth consecutive month of a historic and unexpected drop in overdose deaths," said Harm Reduction Ohio in a statement.

"A fifteen or twenty percent [drop in deaths] is a really big number, an enormous impact, said Dasgupta, calling for more research to determine how to keep the trend going. "If interventions are what's driving this decline, then let's double down on those interventions."
 

xtsho

Well-known member
My data was not old and outdated. I knew it was accurate and current, but saw no point in a ping-pong game of 'did too... did not...'

The homelessness is a matter of economics more so than drugs themselves, and the lethality of drugs and drug overdoses in general is declining and has been... In fact, a lot of the drug use is a matter of compensating for the harshness of homelessness in a land that it now may well be a criminal act to lay down on public property.

Sieg fucking heil!!

FATAL DRUG OVERDOSES ARE IN DRAMATIC DECLINE

https://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/fatal-drug-overdoses-dramatic-decline-feature

View attachment 19070251


The numbers are still horrifically high, but dropping fast, for a variety of reasons.

Fatal drug overdoses have declined dramatically, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. (CDC). The provisional drug overdose count for the 12-month period ending in April shows a ten percent decrease in overdose deaths. While overdose deaths appear to have plateaued in 2021-2022, they declined by three percent between 2022 and 2023, a decline that has only accelerated.


Drug overdose deaths, which had been on the increase during the century's first two decades, exceeded 100,000 per year by mid-2021 and peaked at more than 111,000 per year in the summer of 2023. But by April of this year, the toll had dropped to 97,309.

"This is exciting," said Dr. Nora Volkow, head of the National Institute On Drug Abuse [NIDA]. "This looks real. This looks very, very real," she told National Public Radio (NPR).

"The trends are definitely positive," said Dr. Keith Humphreys, a nationally respected drug policy researcher at Stanford University. "This is going to be the best year we've had since all of this started," he told NPR.

The CDC's provisional data did not include any breakdown by substance, but according to NIDA, in recent years, fentanyl and its derivatives have been implicated in between two-third and three-quarters of all overdose deaths, followed by cocaine and methamphetamine, which are each involved in about one-fifth of overdose deaths.

There could be even better news coming. Some researchers think that an even larger decline in overdose deaths will become evident once the provisional data is updated.

"In the states that have the most rapid data collection systems, we're seeing declines of 20 percent, 30 percent," said Dr. Nabarun Dasgupta, an expert on street drugs at the University of North Carolina. The decline could be saving "roughly 20,000 lives" per year, he told NPR.

Different factors are at play to account for the decline. Part of it is users simply growing familiar with fentanyl, part of it can be attributed to harm reduction measures such as the widespread access to the opioid overdose reversal drug naloxone. And part of it probably has to do with the ending of pandemic era isolation and social dislocation.

"Expansion of naloxone and medications for opioid use disorder -- these strategies worked," said Dr. Volkow at NIDA.

"We've almost tripled the amount of naloxone out in the community," said Brad Finegood, who directs the overdose crisis response in Seattle "A year ago when overdose deaths continued to rise, I was really struggling with hope," he told NPR. "Today, I have so much hope," Finegood said.

"This is the largest decrease on record and the fifth consecutive month of recorded decreases," said Dr. Rahul Gupta, head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP -- the drug czar's office), calling for more money treatment and health services in poor Black and Native American communities where overdose deaths remain high. "There is no way we're going to beat this epidemic by not focusing on communities that are often marginalized, underserved and communities of color," Gupta said told NPR.

Still, the decline in overdose deaths already has been striking -- especially in the eastern and central US. In Vermont, they are down 22 percent. In Ohio, they are down 31 percent. In Missouri, 34 percent.

"While the mortality data for 2024 is incomplete and subject to change, Ohio is now in the ninth consecutive month of a historic and unexpected drop in overdose deaths," said Harm Reduction Ohio in a statement.

"A fifteen or twenty percent [drop in deaths] is a really big number, an enormous impact, said Dasgupta, calling for more research to determine how to keep the trend going. "If interventions are what's driving this decline, then let's double down on those interventions."

Overdose deaths have not declined. Overall drug use has increased. More people are surviving due to the availability of naloxone.

That article is completely biased. Fentanyl use has spiked. They're manipulating the data for their purposes.
They're pushing the "Treatment works" nonsense.

"If interventions are what's driving this decline, then let's double down on those interventions."

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People are still addicts they're just not dying because of Narcan. They're still addicted and on the streets. They're just not dying as fast as they were. It's nothing more than a bandage. The root cause of the problem is still there. But it makes people feel good when they can make the numbers look promising. In the end there will be more addicts tomorrow than there are today. They are now able to survive an overdose but are still on the streets doing dope.

None of this means the problem of addiction is solved, experts told us, but Dayton and Montgomery County are prepared to handle the next crisis, whatever that might be.

2. Increased Narcan availability.

There are now 24 law enforcement agencies in Montgomery County carrying the overdose reversing drug, in addition to paramedics. Emergency personnel administered nearly 1,600 doses last year in Montgomery County, according to state data.

Samaritan and Project Dawn gave out free Narcan kits, training more than 3,400 people in the community last year on how to use them. That led to at least 171 overdose reversals, Samaritan said, and many more might have occurred but weren’t reported.

 
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moose eater

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Overdose deaths have not declined. Overall drug use has increased. More people are surviving due to the availability of naloxone.

That article is completely biased. Fentanyl use has spiked. They're manipulating the data for their purposes.
They're pushing the "Treatment works" nonsense.

"If interventions are what's driving this decline, then let's double down on those interventions."

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People are still addicts they're just not dying because of Narcan. They're still addicted and on the streets. They're just not dying as fast as they were. It's nothing more than a bandage. The root cause of the problem is still there. But it makes people feel good when they can make the numbers look promising. In the end there will be more addicts tomorrow than there are today. They are now able to survive an overdose but are still on the streets doing dope.

None of this means the problem of addiction is solved, experts told us, but Dayton and Montgomery County are prepared to handle the next crisis, whatever that might be.

2. Increased Narcan availability.

There are now 24 law enforcement agencies in Montgomery County carrying the overdose reversing drug, in addition to paramedics. Emergency personnel administered nearly 1,600 doses last year in Montgomery County, according to state data.

Samaritan and Project Dawn gave out free Narcan kits, training more than 3,400 people in the community last year on how to use them. That led to at least 171 overdose reversals, Samaritan said, and many more might have occurred but weren’t reported.

There are three factors as to why overdose deaths have, indeed, declined.

Narcan is only one of those factors.

Follow the links in my post.

edit: Narcan has been available to EMTs, cops, and family members going back to the hey-day of ODs in New Mexico, when Gov. Gary Johnson was in office there. That movement spread and that was around the year 2000.

Again, I have a family member that ran a methadone clinic and a needle/syringe exchange for over 20 years, and still is involved with that clinic.
 

xtsho

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anarchists are indeed leftists

They don't know what they are. All they know is that they want too cause mayhem. Today's anarchists are different than what they used to be when they had some kind of ideology. These younger ones are just in it for the thrill and nothing more. They enjoy occupying buildings and then scurrying away like rats when the authorities finally clear them out.

They tore up the student library at Portland State University. It's since reopened but it took $1.23 million to fix the damage and it's still not 100%. They stole or destroyed all the computers. Graffiti on the walls, carpet destroyed, etc... It makes absolutely no sense to do what they did. It sickens me.


 

xtsho

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There are three factors as to why overdose deaths have, indeed, declined.

Narcan is only one of those factors.

Follow the links in my post.

edit: Narcan has been available to EMTs, cops, and family members going back to the hey-day of ODs in New Mexico, when Gov. Gary Johnson was in office there. That movement spread and that was around the year 2000.

Again, I have a family member that ran a methadone clinic and a needle/syringe exchange for over 20 years, and still is involved with that clinic.

Those recent numbers used in that article are skewed and only reflect areas in the country that were so bad that as soon as Narcan started getting rolled out for free did the extreme numbers start declining. The numbers are still bad all over the country.

While Narcan is preventing overdose deaths it does absolutely nothing to address the root cause. Which is the prevalence of cheap drugs flooding the streets. It doesn't seem like any progress is being made. We've just turned to keeping people alive instead of getting people off drugs. It's like a step back.

Narcan has been around for awhile but it was never available the way it is today. Most addicts are now carrying it themselves now that it's being given away for free. So at least they can help their dope buddies out if needed.

The drugs out there are just nasty. People are making stronger and more addictive drugs. The crap is all synthetic and it doesn't come with a label listing the ingredients. It's poison. Definitely not the Peruvian coca from the 80's. It's scary stuff.

Less deaths is good news but close calls have risen. They've risen because of an increase of drug use.

My point is that we're not slowing it down. We're just containing it as best as we can. That's not a solution. It's like a detour around the bridge that collapsed. Instead of falling off the cliff you get to go around and keep driving down the same road.

I only have ideas. I don't have a solution. Do you?
 

RobFromTX

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They don't know what they are. All they know is that they want too cause mayhem. Today's anarchists are different than what they used to be when they had some kind of ideology. These younger ones are just in it for the thrill and nothing more. They enjoy occupying buildings and then scurrying away like rats when the authorities finally clear them out.

They tore up the student library at Portland State University. It's since reopened but it took $1.23 million to fix the damage and it's still not 100%. They stole or destroyed all the computers. Graffiti on the walls, carpet destroyed, etc... It makes absolutely no sense to do what they did. It sickens me.



You should read up on the history of anarchists. The real ones were far worse in other places than the ones here, especially during conflicts. During the spanish civil war they would burn down houses, kill kids, shoot priests and rape and murder nuns. The ones here are just bored rich hipsters from the inner cities with nothing else to do with their time but make trouble. Even those con artists that ran the blm knew that, which is why they attempted to keep them out of the picture altogether. Now theyre messing up the palestinian protests and destroying buildings. Like i said just hipsters that went to a military surplus store to look tough. They wouldnt last a minute out in the open acting like they do on their own
 

Cannavore

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During the spanish civil war they would burn down houses, kill kids, shoot priests and rape and murder nuns.
you mean the spanish civil war against francisco franco, a fascist? some anarchists were indeed violent towards franco sympathizers and supporters which included clergy. fascists want to end your way of life, which is a threat of violence in itself.
 

RobFromTX

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you mean the spanish civil war against francisco franco, a fascist? some anarchists were indeed violent towards franco sympathizers and supporters which included clergy. fascists want to end your way of life, which is a threat of violence in itself.
i dont know chief .raping and murdering a bunch of innocent nuns seems pretty fascist to me.

I wasn't advocating francoism. I was just illustrating what real anarchists are

and antifa maggots are a long way from it
 

xtsho

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You should read up on the history of anarchists. The real ones were far worse in other places than the ones here, especially during conflicts. During the spanish civil war they would burn down houses, kill kids, shoot priests and rape and murder nuns. The ones here are just bored rich hipsters from the inner cities with nothing else to do with their time but make trouble. Even those con artists that ran the blm knew that, which is why they attempted to keep them out of the picture altogether. Now theyre messing up the palestinian protests and destroying buildings. Like i said just hipsters that went to a military surplus store to look tough. They wouldnt last a minute out in the open acting like they do on their own

I've researched enough. I know the history.

I agree with you 100% that most of them are spoiled punk ass hipsters. I've been amongst them while they were running around like fools. Their behavior sickens me. They accomplish nothing.

I walked around Portland numerous times during the 100 day siege they had on my city. I was filled with rage. All the businesses had the windows smashed out and looted. Yet these fools were grilling hamburgers on the sidewalk like it was one big party.

It was hard to not go ballistic but I was in enemy territory. I have brown skin so I felt safe since it started out as a protest against minorities. But they didn't care about minority owned businesses. They looted a few jewelry stores owned by people of Middle Eastern descent. A week later many were decked out in new gear. Brand new helmets, shields, etc... They stole that stuff for their own gain. Nothing but criminals.

I better stop. I'm getting enraged just thinking about that nightmare. Time to smoke a bowl and take the dogs for a walk and relax. Enjoy my life not ruin others.
 

Cannavore

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i dont know chief .raping and murdering a bunch of innocent nuns seems pretty fascist to me.

I wasn't advocating francoism. I was just illustrating what real anarchists are

and antifa maggots are a long way from it
bold of you to assume their innocence. the clergy played a vital role in legitimizing franco. the vatican also directly endorsed franco lol.

fascists love using the rape motif. there seems to be very little proof on "anarchists raping nuns"
 

greyfader

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bold of you to assume their innocence. the clergy played a vital role in legitimizing franco. the vatican also directly endorsed franco lol.

fascists love using the rape motif. there seems to be very little proof on "anarchists raping nuns"
i, for one, am not the least bit interested in raping a big ole hairy dike in a penguin suit!
 

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