2024 US Presidential Election

[mean mr.mustard]

Adoption is getting your own kids.

I'm glad that you see it that way.

I'm sorry that you think that high school libraries shouldn't include books that you deem inappropriate.

I recall reading books that included subject matter far more disturbing than sexuality in the grade school library.

I'm also aware that some people think prohibition is a sound concept.

 

[armedoldhippy]

when will you comprehend it's not you that is the target demographic

i knew that, bozo. people like me are just here to point out your bullshit so that gullible folks aren't just getting your side of the argument. what a tool, lol... whatever your scriptwriters are getting paid, it aint working.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

They're not voting for DeSantis apparently.

According to these boys that didn't get hugged when they were little, DeSantis is owned by Israel.

Show of hands: who thinks that this group is voting for Biden?

 

[GOT_BUD?]

won't work,avocado toast is against the law in new mexico,we have burritos instead,hipsters like wraps,the gay cousin of the burrito

I don't get the hate when it comes to avocado toast. It's cheap and delicious and packed with vitamins.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

I'm glad that you see it that way.

I'm sorry that you think that high school libraries shouldn't include books that you deem inappropriate.

I recall reading books that included subject matter far more disturbing than sexuality in the grade school library.

I'm also aware that some people think prohibition is a sound concept.

I remember reading Lord of the Flies. Now that's a fucked up book.

 

[pop_rocks]

i knew that, bozo. people like me are just here to point out your bullshit so that gullible folks aren't just getting your side of the argument. what a tool, lol... whatever your scriptwriters are getting paid, it aint working.

the script writers are all on strike and i see a lot of organised labor following suit
i myself have felt the pain and have had to cut back
im cutting hours for all monkeys and getting with the new skoolz
*but we keep bubbles, his writing is comedy gold and he helps me get chicks
but never fear! i have fed all teh key words into the AI and im coming up with the next great story!@@ just for you guys

*not depicted, bubbles

 

[Microbeman]

They're not voting for DeSantis apparently.

According to these boys that didn't get hugged when they were little, DeSantis is owned by Israel.

Show of hands: who thinks that this group is voting for Biden?

Clearly, this calls for a special military operation by Putin. Florida is all Nazi, all the time.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

They are hiding their faces but hated masks.

I wonder if a bit of editing could produce a new music video for Alanis Morrisette's Ironic...

Well actually I really like masks except for when people tell me that I should wear one...

 

[armedoldhippy]

Well actually I really like masks except for when people tell me that I should wear one...

they will wear them to protect themselves from being IDed, but everyone trying to stay healthy can fuck off and die...

 

[Brother Nature]

So I hear you guys now want to invade Mexico… Hahahah….

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Really?

Is MTG on the rampage again?

 

[Brother Nature]

The brain trust is at it again…

As Republicans Thirst for War With Mexico, Democrats Push to Make Them Vote on It

Populist Republicans’ response to the new war powers resolution highlights the growing pains of their anti-war coalition with progressive Democrats.

theintercept.com

 

[armedoldhippy]

So I hear you guys now want to invade Mexico… Hahahah….

yes. DeSantis says he'd use military against drug gangs. none of them admit that the drugs being illegal is why there is so much money in it. SMFs can't (won't) see the forest for all of the damn trees in the way...

 

[armedoldhippy]

Really?

Is MTG on the rampage again?

yeah, she's threatening to go get HER AR-15 to protect The Chump after that witless clown Carlson claimed that the US govt was plotting to kill him. if they wanted him dead, they'd buy him all of the Big Macs he wanted. he's not long for this world as it is...

 

[buzzmobile]

Florida is all Nazi, all the time.

We have part timers too.

I don't get the hate when it comes to avocado toast.

Always put the avocados in the pack before the bread.

 

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A Dire Warning: The US Plan To Make Ukraine Into Europe's 'Big Israel'​

by Tyler Durden
Saturday, Sep 02, 2023 - 02:00 PM
In his famous anti-Vietnam War speech, the late senator from South Dakota George McGovern told fellow Congressional leaders, "This chamber reeks of blood." On Saturday, journalist Max Blumenthal opened a hard-hitting talk at the Ron Paul Institute's "Which Way America...?" conference in D.C. by quoting those words, but applied them to the US proxy war against Russia in Ukraine.
Blumenthal said that in Ukraine, Washington continues "wasting the lives and bodies of over 150,000 men, and that's according to the Pentagon." Citing recent studies on the immense numbers of Ukrainians who have lost limbs after a year-and-a-half of fighting (which could be surpassing WWI rates), he said the true Ukraine casualty count could be closer to 500,000 - which marks a monumental tragedy and disaster.

The GrayZone journalist then said of today's Congress that "this chamber" not only "reeks of blood" but.. "they have wasted Ukrainian society on the mantle of anti-Russia hysteria" - as lawmakers in lockstep with the Biden administration continue to sink billions into Kiev.
Beltway liberal elites, Blumenthal asserted, still think Russia must be punished given they see Moscow as having brought the "bad orange man" to power in 2016. This is a big ideological aspect to what motivates the hawks, he said.
Further, Blumenthal explained that what's happening here is that the US ruling class has "militarized the culture wars while depicting Ukraine as the 'woke side' vs. Russia as backwards and oppressive."
But more importantly, the real "victors" are the major US defense contractors and their appendages like the K street neocon lobbying firms. Blumenthal highlighted that these, and the Biden administration, are operating with the bigger vision in mind of turning Ukraine into Europe's "big Israel".
By this is meant a permanently militarized 'Spartan' wartime state, which is funded and weaponized by Washington in perpetuity, and possesses all the latest cutting edge Western defense tech. But like with the state of things long evident inside Israel (in particular oppression of both Palestinians and Israeli political dissenters), democracy must be eroded at home for this to happen. Still, the defense tech peddlers in the military-industrial complex will 'win' no matter how much Ukrainian society and its people are sacrificed.
"In order to defend democracy in Ukraine, democracy must be curtailed at home," Blumenthal emphasized, drawing lessons from current examples of oppression of free speech in the West, particularly related to the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

He noted here that his own investigative media outlet, The GrayZone, has had the bulk of its funding frozen by the popular platform GoFundMe. The outlet explained days ago [emphasis ZH]:

By this point, we had raised over $90,000 from over 1100 contributors. The generous contributions from our audience were accompanied by hundreds of messages of effusive support for our factual journalism holding imperial power to account.
And now, Gofundme is holding the donations hostage, refusing to transfer them to us, while failing to inform donors that it has effectively seized their money. The for-profit site has similarly refused to explain its freezing of their donations, issuing nothing more than a vague allusion – “some external concerns” – to pressure from powerful outside forces.
Gofundme’s financial sabotage follows the de facto sanctions imposed by Venmo and Paypal on our managing editor, Wyatt Reed, after he reported on the Ukrainian military’s targeting of civilians from the separatist side of the Donbas region.

Again, this is why Blumenthal could draw on recent personal experience in telling the Ron Paul conference audience that "democracy must be curtailed" in America in order to keep unlimited taxpayer dollars flowing into the Zelensky government's coffers.
Blumenthal continued... but "now Russia has no incentive to negotiate" given they have the clear military momentum amid a failing Ukraine counteroffensive. The US and UK likely had a window of opportunity in the initial months of the war to more easily open up serious diplomatic peace negotiations, but this was actively thwarted.
"We cannot have peace negotiations while war is being incentivized [by Washington interests] to this point," he continued while also referencing neocons like Bill Kristol, who has been leading a charge to silence any dissenting views from among Republican nominees and politicians on Ukraine.

"These operatives need constant opportunities" which a permanent proxy war in Europe enables, Blumenthal continued - just like with the constant and historic billions in aid flowing to Israel, which serves to cyclically fuel the accompanying global reach and outsized influence of the Israel lobby.
On this question of whether negotiations are possible even from Kiev's perspective, Zero Hedge asked Blumenthal what he thinks would happen in the unlikely scenario that Zelensky himself suddenly pursued peace talks with the Russians. Blumenthal responded as follows:

"If Zelensky were to pursue peace talks now before he's re-elected... due to the kind of social forces that have been unleashed by Maidan, he will face a far-right Nazi insurgency in his own country, and he will become public enemy number one among some of the most violent and militarized forces.
...Which is why he went and met with Andriy Biletsky, the founder of Azov. Zelensky was elected on a platform of peace by 73% of the population because you still had the ethnic Russian population participating in Ukrainian society. They have been completely driven out and the constituency he's working with is completely different now."

Below: Last month, Ukrainian President Zelensky held court with one of the most notorious neo-Nazis in modern Ukrainian history, Azov Battalion founder Andriy Biletsky.

Turning Ukraine into "a big Israel" will involve long-term funding to shape and place "America's unsinkable aircraft carrier not in the Middle East but in Europe," Blumenthal said.
But as Ukrainians continue to be slaughtered, it won't be a happy situation for a country to become a "big Israel", Blumenthal concluded.
* * *
Former US Ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro (from 2011 to 2017) is helping to push this Ukraine as "big Israel" concept forward, Blumenthal pointed out.

A partial list of key elements of Shapiro's road map for Ukraine was previously published by The Atlantic Council as follows:

• Security first: Every Israeli government promises, first and foremost, that it will deliver security—and knows it will be judged on this pledge. Ordinary citizens, not just politicians, pay close attention to security threats—both from across borders and from internal sources— and much of the public chooses who to elect by that metric alone.
• The whole population plays a role: The Israeli model goes further than Zelenskyy’s vision of security services deployed to civilian spaces: Most young Israeli adults serve in the military, and many are employed in security-related professions following their service. A common purpose unites the citizenry, making them ready to endure shared sacrifice. Civilians recognize their responsibility to follow security protocols and contribute to the cause. Some even arm themselves (though under strict supervision) to do so. The widespread mobilization of Ukrainian society in collective defense suggests that the country has this potential. In his comments, Zelenskyy reflected this reality when he said security would “come from the strength of every house, every building, every person.”
• Self-defense is the only way: If there’s any single principle that animates Israel’s security doctrine, it’s that Israel will defend itself, by itself—and rely on no other country to fight its battles. The tragedies of Jewish history have embedded that lesson deep in the nation’s soul. Ukraine’s own trauma, forced to fight alone against a larger aggressor, reinforces a similar conclusion: Don’t depend on the guarantees of others.
• But maintain active defense partnerships: Self-defense doesn’t mean total isolation. Israel maintains active defense partnerships, chiefly with the United States, which provides generous military assistance, but also with other nations with whom it shares intelligence, technology, and training. While Ukraine will probably not join NATO any time soon, it can deepen security partnerships with Alliance members and receive aid, weaponry, intelligence, and training to bolster its self-defense.
• Intelligence dominance: From its earliest days, Israel has invested deeply in its intelligence capabilities to ensure that it has the means to detect and deter its enemies—and, when needed, act proactively to strike them. Ukraine will need to upgrade its intelligence services to compete against Russian capabilities and ensure that it’s prepared to prevent and repulse Russian attacks.
• Technology is key: Although it relies on US assistance, Israel also chooses homegrown technology solutions for many of its greatest challenges. Multi-layer rocket and missile defenses, counter-drone systems, and tunnel detection technology are just recent examples. Ukraine—already home to bright technological minds—will know what threats it faces more than any partner; investing in its own solutions will allow it to be most responsive and adapt to new threats.

 

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[mean mr.mustard]

Russia really played into our hands by starting all of this, huh?

You see conspiracy behind things that are not even planned.

Good luck with that.

 

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