2024 State of the genepool discussion.

[TrifektaSeeds]

I think he meant it's more difficult getting good seed/clone stock to start from
In the old days you could start from every pack, just choose and breed it out
Today just getting to the first corner stone is a hassle I didn't imagine in my worst dreams of happening.

 

[Dime]

"Indica has nothing to do with degradation of lines it is just an excuse too"
It certainly does. Have you ever smoked authentic C Gold, Thaistick,Hawaiian or Cambodian in the,1970's? Indica is bland and boring and it brought that to the table,now it's in there and unless someone has pure unadultered tropical or Indian nld genetics,it's not going anywhere.Skunk#1 is in everything now too,there's your culprit.

 

[TrifektaSeeds]

Indica is never boring and hazes are amazing too, they both share the same spectrum of high just different ends
I used to smoke the heaviest of indicas and it got me blasted everytime
Not sativa nor indica is driven the game down, it's shady practices.

And SK1 is the mother of the cheese line probably the top 3 clones of all times
So no, strains are not to one to blame.

 

[Dime]

When they added indica the genetics that got you high were watered down and now you get stoned and weed became narcotic.It wasn't like this back then.Growers wanted yield to make money and indica provided that.Strains like big bud and shit like that infiltrated quality genes and became dominant. You didn't go to sleep after smoking good weed,you couldn't get to sleep.There are still genes in there to get you high but to fish them out is a great undertaking if it's even possible. First you will need very long flowering plants.

 

[Dime]

And also in the last few years they have even added ruderalis into the mix to put another nail in the coffin. Keep what you have and like because it will be rare one day too

 

[Hammerhead]

Not true it has always been difficult to do this, and most can not and could not even duplicate what they started with. If they could there would be lots of inbred true breeding lines still around. Inbreeding depression is just an excuse for bad selection and growing methods. Once a line goes to hemp or cbd, I know of no way to reverse this, and lots of ways for it to happen. Indica has nothing to do with degradation of lines it is just an excuse too. Out crossing has been over used to try and combat degradation of the high because it is or was effective this too is becoming an excuse. Just my opinion based on experience not scientific fact.

Ive been at it longer than most. What I said is a fact. The gene pool is poluted and degraded and wiill never recover. Maling identical copies of what we have now is as good as it will ever be. There are no genetics left with those resesive triars we had 50 years ago. The weed was stonger, way more flavor, the resin would cloud up your baggie. Completly different chemotypes today. Breeding in the 70s was way easier.

 

[TrifektaSeeds]

I have to agree.
Each generation if the ones doing the seeds didn't pick a better selection, the lines are sure to degrade
From 1:1 to 1:10 to 1:100 until you get to the 1:1,000,000 like @JetLife175 said

Heart breaking.
I never thought I would have to look for something decent to smoke, I was the king of kush around my part of the country (small country lol)
Now I barley get high
Sad times