2017 tester run - KC x Zamaldelica fem

[deepwaterdude]

Bag appeal all the de way!dewd brother and bubble your a processing machine excellent update ...

Dude, I feel like a machine-gotta trim, time to make the hash donuts! Every AM, PM, who needs what, what can I get rid of/process to have less around. Gotta make space for all that PamZAm coming in

Wasup-up to the family jewels only, deep as I'll go These were all soil grown, Panama outdoor, GT indoor

10 weeks since flip today for the PamZAms and #s 2 and 3 are finishing, hairs turning rapidly. Getting 1/2 strength base nutes plus overdrive for a couple weeks, then flush. Like the Titanic, #1 will go on. Some single bananas on PZ2 lower buds, so there'll be some seeds if they're not sterile, probably from both the Pamzams and the ZAm KCs. I'm thinking my lights need to flip back to daytime on after these finish, no chance for light leaks. I also may have hit them harder than they like with the nutelets. Big smells in there

 

[deepwaterdude]

OD update - Zam x KC got through the coldest nights

OD update - Zam x KC got through the coldest nights

Temps went down to 20 a couple nights ago so broke out the frost cloth and made a tent for the two clones in the chairs. VERY nice days with full sun and temps have started climbing back up for the next 2 weeks Last night it was 28degrees, tonight back into the 40s maybe and 70s daytime tmrw. Very nice finishing weather. I didn't know cannabis could survive at these temps, but the Malawi ain't dead yet and so has another few weeks of sun and then inside she comes.

This was they yesterday AM in first rays o' sun.

Indoors (sooo lazy to take pics) numbers 2 and 3 have few white hairs left and are fading from their big leaves, so correctly, and leaves at 12 inches or closer to the nextlight are curling and frying a bit. There's some intersex activity in #1 after change of lights, and temps are lowish, which affects everything. I'm using these small pots, so that may diminish finishing time for these 7 footers.

I now dub myself King of Hermies, a dubious, yet deserved, title Spirits remain high nonetheless; the good far outweighs the "bad".

 

[Guest]

Lookin'delish !
King of herms though...C'mon bro,I even hermed my first male How many weeks after flip for the indoor gals?

 

[orfeas]

Temps went down to 20 a couple nights ago so broke out the frost cloth and made a tent for the two clones in the chairs. VERY nice days with full sun and temps have started climbing back up for the next 2 weeks Last night it was 28degrees, tonight back into the 40s maybe and 70s daytime tmrw. Very nice finishing weather. I didn't know cannabis could survive at these temps, but the Malawi ain't dead yet and so has another few weeks of sun and then inside she comes.

This was they yesterday AM in first rays o' sun.

Indoors (sooo lazy to take pics) numbers 2 and 3 have few white hairs left and are fading from their big leaves, so correctly, and leaves at 12 inches or closer to the nextlight are curling and frying a bit. There's some intersex activity in #1 after change of lights, and temps are lowish, which affects everything. I'm using these small pots, so that may diminish finishing time for these 7 footers.

I now dub myself King of Hermies, a dubious, yet deserved, title Spirits remain high nonetheless; the good far outweighs the "bad".

warm late spring afternoon colours getting pale some sort of nostalgia for the run coming to an end...
the images keep my spirits high nonetheless...

been puffing on that pinky bud... it does bloody ring there there

orfeas

 

[deepwaterdude]

hey, fellas, orf-nice to hear that lady hits the spot She looked a right beast.

Syd-girls in tent are mid week 11 now, heading toward flush, at least #s 2 and 3. I'll try and get pics tomorrow AM. #3 is takeable at any instant, just want to get a fade, while #2 needs more time to fatten and finish. I may just have to take a look at the trichs #1 will surely go on.

 

[deepwaterdude]

Panama x Zamaldelica week 11 update - part one

Panama x Zamaldelica week 11 update - part one

They're starting their finish, reddening, fattening and hermying

You can see upper leaves frying a bit while lowers are staying healthyish and fading on 2 + 3. #1 doesn't screw around when she puts out nanners; look at the package on that gal! Will clip this node when they protrude a little more.

Here's PamzAm 1, up close and VERY personal. No part of the plant is uninteresting.

2 and 3 follow, yet lead the way to harvest Finally got some good pics of #2.

 

[deepwaterdude]

Week 11 indoor-part 2 - PanZams 2 + 3

Week 11 indoor-part 2 - PanZams 2 + 3

PanZAm 2 is reddening fast, as you can see, while Pamzam 3 is close to done. I think recent temps are contributing, along with small pot size, to early finish. And also the bananas; IME plants seem to shut down female flowers when they start making male parts.

For these two girls, I feed only 1/2 strength overdrive for the couple more days of week 11, then flush all week 12. #1 is still getting 1/2 strength base + tad overdrive. I'm guessing 2 + 3 and the two outdoor clones will come down around same time, in +/- 10 days. I suppose I'll look at trichs beforehand

All buds are very heavy, surprisingly so. #2 has almost broken its own branches under their weight. #3's lowermost branches are flopped on the ground, practically.
Anyway, here they is.

 

[Buddler]

Very nice ,I like how you labeled those pics ,how u do dat dude ? Your in overdrive man great looking donkage. I wouldn't say the hermies is your fault its in the strain.. Thanks for sharing..

 

[deepwaterdude]

Very nice ,I like how you labeled those pics ,how u do dat dude ? Your in overdrive man great looking donkage. I wouldn't say the hermies is your fault its in the strain.. Thanks for sharing..

Hey, bro, thanks for the eye PZ1 is gonna yield ten loaves of sugar lemon soda bread) As for male parts, four of five plants hermied this time, so I'll try with daytime light next run and see how we go. Much less potential for light leaks.

For the pics (on a Mac), I download from camera into Photos, then copy them into folders on the computer. I open them all in Preview (default photo app) and edit/rotate; to change the titles from blablah.jpeg, I click on the title at the top of the pic and I can edit it.
To put actual text on the photos, go to the Preview toolbar at the top and click "Tools". In the dropdown list a ways is "Annotate", then another dropdown and "Text". That'll give you a text box to move around and type in, etc. Can choose color and text size, background color etc. I don't get too fancy unless light forces me. You can repeat the process for as many text boxes you want. Be good for syd's tent
Honestly, right now, I'm just excited to make more hash from the outdoor ZAm x KCs, that stuff was ridiculously tasty; the plants smell killer and just need to fatten their nugs. Gonna be very different from the indoor. Getting super paranoid about air traffic. Just another week + and we'll be good.
Gonna go make a margarita for me and some soup for the girls in the tent. Night all, dwd

 

[orfeas]

G'day, dudemate!
astounding array of images...yet a disagreably pinching feeling is what I get when looking at that last photo with tropical fruit
have a hunch you're right about that halting of female flowers when penises make their debut...gott sei dank they're not donks

orfeas

 

[Guest]

Bro,they look really astonishing!Not just saying it,they look good enough to eat them So beautiful buds,the #1 especially...Any early samples taken for evaluation?
You don't pluck the nanners so that you don't stress them?

Probably right about late nanners halting flowering ,but balls showing up early never caused less yield,at least in my experience.

 

[deepwaterdude]

Start of week 12 verbiage

Start of week 12 verbiage

Bro,they look really astonishing!Not just saying it,they look good enough to eat them So beautiful buds,the #1 especially...Any early samples taken for evaluation?
You don't pluck the nanners so that you don't stress them?

Probably right about late nanners halting flowering ,but balls showing up early never caused less yield,at least in my experience.

Mornin', syd and all Aceophiles! Here are some verbs and nouns, with the occasional adjective/adverbial clause.

Yep, I figure if a plant is inspired to put out male flowers, she's gonna do it despite all my best efforts. If I see one, I suppose there are at least ten I can't see. I could be wrong, just as with the second part about yield

I did take a couple of small test buds from Pam Zams 2 and 3 yesterday. They're drying after I had a look at the trichs through my microscope. I was VERY happy to see amber on both in small quantities, more on #2, so they're cruising their way to the finish in a couple weeks. They're fading very fast, so still a lot of metabolizing going on. Active inner life, these babes. They get just molasses now, for calmag and sugars.

No hurry, as I also tested the just smokeable Zamaldelica x KC #1, harvested exactly two weeks back. I got the buds into jars early and pretty wet, and have had more success slow drying with burping the jars daily, etc. This is the dark purple pheno, very fruity and tasty with that pleasant, positive, social high. Short lived though; big up, fast down, as with young THC and people alike. Haven't tried #2 yet. Less fruit in the nose, and danker crystal, tighter buds.

Next to that I've got my last couple o zips from Zammy Tammy at hand as my go-to jar. At 3 months cure, she's very long lasting, powerful, similar fruit and color but less of both, a little more sweet onion or something... NO tolerance buildup, and I don't know how that's possible. I've smoked a ton of this strain exclusively over the last two months with maybe 2 joints of OD Panama from last year mixed in. Still pleasing in every way and no burnout or dirty high as with most of the dispensary strains, even the ones I "like".

I've started laying off the bubble hashes I made because just too stoned these days. I do throw some in with the last spliff of the day. I also re vacuum-sealed my two little cobs for another week or so, as it looked as if the bag was losing its hold, and don't want no mold!

Outdoor, we've still got a lot of sun for this month with a couple cold nights coming up, then smooth, sunny sailing until harvest 4th week Oct (paranoia permitting). Malawi is still alive, that's all we can say about that.

Hope you're all having a great season and safe harvest!
deedubya

 

[Bobbo4200]

Hey Deep,
Browsed through the thread quick, nice work. Ima also tag along for the ride!

 

[orfeas]

Mornin', syd and all Aceophiles! Here are some verbs and nouns, with the occasional adjective/adverbial clause.

Yep, I figure if a plant is inspired to put out male flowers, she's gonna do it despite all my best efforts. If I see one, I suppose there are at least ten I can't see. I could be wrong, just as with the second part about yield

I did take a couple of small test buds from Pam Zams 2 and 3 yesterday. They're drying after I had a look at the trichs through my microscope. I was VERY happy to see amber on both in small quantities, more on #2, so they're cruising their way to the finish in a couple weeks. They're fading very fast, so still a lot of metabolizing going on. Active inner life, these babes. They get just molasses now, for calmag and sugars.

No hurry, as I also tested the just smokeable Zamaldelica x KC #1, harvested exactly two weeks back. I got the buds into jars early and pretty wet, and have had more success slow drying with burping the jars daily, etc. This is the dark purple pheno, very fruity and tasty with that pleasant, positive, social high. Short lived though; big up, fast down, as with young THC and people alike. Haven't tried #2 yet. Less fruit in the nose, and danker crystal, tighter buds.

Next to that I've got my last couple o zips from Zammy Tammy at hand as my go-to jar. At 3 months cure, she's very long lasting, powerful, similar fruit and color but less of both, a little more sweet onion or something... NO tolerance buildup, and I don't know how that's possible. I've smoked a ton of this strain exclusively over the last two months with maybe 2 joints of OD Panama from last year mixed in. Still pleasing in every way and no burnout or dirty high as with most of the dispensary strains, even the ones I "like".

I've started laying off the bubble hashes I made because just too stoned these days. I do throw some in with the last spliff of the day. I also re vacuum-sealed my two little cobs for another week or so, as it looked as if the bag was losing its hold, and don't want no mold!

Outdoor, we've still got a lot of sun for this month with a couple cold nights coming up, then smooth, sunny sailing until harvest 4th week Oct (paranoia permitting). Malawi is still alive, that's all we can say about that.

Hope you're all having a great season and safe harvest!
deedubya

bustling, bustling aye! Yet bustling and and being stoned aren't always compatible, are they?
speaking of onion odours reminds me of my first Thai leaning Zd...magnificent tree it was, badly bitten by bud mould though...there was also a hint of leak about it. The high was almost unparalleled particularly the bubble one ...
The one I am growing atm is an S1 and looks almost identical apart from the leaf size...and smellwise too.

orfeas

 

[deepwaterdude]

Orfeas, I'm sad to say it look as if a giant green caterpillar ate your plants! The second pic is hard to wrap my neurons around, bendy plant Where you been hiding that girl!

Welcome aboard, Bobbo! Checked out your last GT, ridonculous

 

[orfeas]

Orfeas, I'm sad to say it look as if a giant green caterpillar ate your plants! The second pic is hard to wrap my neurons around, bendy plant Where you been hiding that girl!

Welcome aboard, Bobbo! Checked out your last GT, ridonculous

G'day dudemate!
for the sake of explicitness here's the rest of the afore pictured ten footer plant grown back in 2014 and two pics of its current S1 daugher

orfeas

 

[deepwaterdude]

G'day dudemate!
for the sake of explicitness here's the rest of the afore pictured ten footer plant grown back in 2014 and two pics of its current S1 daugher

orfeas

That is the ideal marijuana plant, orf, wowoo. Explicit, hell, that was rightly pornographic... you should be proud

I'm getting a case of harvest fever; have to keep close watch on my hands lest they go for the fiskars.
The outside girls are fattening up healthily, but I can see the effect of the small pot size on Lady S' bud size. They're not rootbound that I can tell, but buds are smaller than indoor in the same 3 gal. ANyway, stinky, almost there. I was aiming for the 21st, but they may go longer. Miss P is rightly fattening into a very decent plant.

The indoor Zamaldelica Elite x Panama Goddess #3 can come down this week and maybe even #2, who's starting to look a little haggard.

I realize that at the end of grows, I haven't always made the difference between finishing a plant in health and killing one off. This doesn't look like the healthiest finish; probably pH and late light spectrum change that have worked their black magic. ANyway, it looks as if #1 has made the adjustment to the new light and is reflowering a tad, got another month or so. The flowers closest to the light are blunt and fat. Can't wait to do a grow from start to finish with this puppy.

Speaking of which...thinking on the winter daytime grow. I may go a la Syd Barrett and do 6 plants with just 1 of each strain, or close to it. I screwed myself by choosing so many amazing strains. I'm thinking there'll be a Haze side and a more indica side. Panama Haze, Green Haze x Malawi and Haze x KC on one side and Orient Express, Malawi x PCK and either Jarilla de Sinaloa or Caribe from CBG on the other. And screw this coco mix; I'm going straight coco and perlite that I'll pre pH and charge with CalMag. Maybe put the blumats back in action.

Enjoy your Tuesday, aceophiles, deedubya

 

[Guest]

Wow,sounds that the Pam zam #1 will win the donk contest

Bro,pick and mix grows rule,there is no other way of trying all the strains we Aceophiles purchase ,except in much bigger rooms.

The lineup sounds magical,Panama Haze must be one of the meows ,GrHz/Malawi sounds dangerous .Hz/Kc ...we'll see.You know my love for OE,MxPCK is another great strain and I'm surprised that you consider jarilla and caribe "more indica side",man you got level up

I didn't remember that this wasn't a bluemat run.So,handwatering?From top or bottom?How many times a day?It is the first time I water everyday ,although not in coco and haven't found much info on everyday watering in soil(mostly regarding nutes)...

 

[deepwaterdude]

Morning, brother syd, you're right about #1 being huge; I untied the Alfalfa bud thinking I would tie it elsewhere, and I swear that ONE bud weighs a pound. Had to tie it back where it was, Abort, abort! Too heavy

There are two sides to the pick and mix; yes, you try many strains it would take a lifetime to get through, but downside is missing the many expressions one strain can have and finding that grail, though could happen the other way too The three plants I have going are so different one from the other that they could be different strains almost. Same but with less variation the Zamaldelica x Kali China. That said, every plant I'm planning on growing could be a grail
As for my "Indicas", looks like any of them COULD take from the Sativa parent and rival the Hazes. Was also thinking of doing two OEs, as it's a sure winner. Can leave the CBGs out. I could also be making an uncomfortable bed for myself doing such different types of plants. I could go for 2x each Haze cross and be happy and maybe less stressed trying to keep things even. In that case, might as well throw a fem Zamaldelica in there

Yep, handwatering from top to bottom, once or twice a day. Never went over EC 1.5 or so this run, in comparison with the 2.0 of last. I don't know about watering everyday in soil, never done so. Every other day, yes, especially in the heat of flower. I think the dry period is very important for soil plants as it holds 10 x less oxygen than coco, for example. You've got a good eye to see if they're suffering, no worries. Clawing sometimes has to do with overwater for ex.

Exciting moment, because in 5 minutes I'm going to chop Panama x Zamaldelica #3 at 11.5 weeks 12/12. She's starting to look very gnarly and there're only male flowers coming so down she comes. Also a lot of male activity on #2 who I'll pardon until Saturday. Trichs are fine for chop on both. Could go more amber if not so male. Gotta go, lights off time

 

[Buddler]

I'm excited too ! what exactly is the alfalfa other than a freak with huge buds lol, sure it doesn't have any Malawi in it ? looking forward to the pic's bud brother and the new choices to grow..