Are you saying that if you can't self finance 3 mill you are not "for real"?
Please do tell...
2016 Down by the Bay
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Are you saying that if you can't self finance 3 mill you are not "for real"?
Please do tell...
caterpillar710
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The county will take in 3 million from all license in total
500 license x 6000 for license , 3,000,000 to county for dispersion to sheriff da etc so they can civilly or criminally abate any one out side of license system
Tier 2 water permit is 2500 , county license is 6000 for 10,000 saw ft (largest amount available until cdfa releases 22,000 sq ft license details )
Lawyer 5,000 to help push paperwork
So all in all it would cost an individual approx 13500 to get licensed.
500 license x 6000 for license , 3,000,000 to county for dispersion to sheriff da etc so they can civilly or criminally abate any one out side of license system
Tier 2 water permit is 2500 , county license is 6000 for 10,000 saw ft (largest amount available until cdfa releases 22,000 sq ft license details )
Lawyer 5,000 to help push paperwork
So all in all it would cost an individual approx 13500 to get licensed.
Thx for the clarification...
caterpillar710
Member
Then u add in the money they'll take in to general fund from permits and taxes , illegal growers are dead in the water
caterpillar710
Member
And you have to add facility cost to the 13,500 for getting legal
Illegal PLANT growers? What a sad excuse for legalization.
Why don't we treat this agricultural commodity like an agricultural commodity? Creating these unnecessary tax and licensing systems continues to make the black market viable. You are incorrect if you think most smokers in Colorado and Washington are buying taxed/legal cannabis. I agree, far past guinea pig.
I realize that the selling of cannabis will require a taxing system, much like every commodity, including tobacco. But, to support a system of legalization where an abnormally high cost of entrance is the norm is to subvert the spirit and tradition of agriculture. If you are excited about the prospect of tasking the police with protecting your psuedo legal drug dealing club...you could potentially be seen as a bit of a jerk. Or at least self interested.
Why don't we treat this agricultural commodity like an agricultural commodity? Creating these unnecessary tax and licensing systems continues to make the black market viable. You are incorrect if you think most smokers in Colorado and Washington are buying taxed/legal cannabis. I agree, far past guinea pig.
I realize that the selling of cannabis will require a taxing system, much like every commodity, including tobacco. But, to support a system of legalization where an abnormally high cost of entrance is the norm is to subvert the spirit and tradition of agriculture. If you are excited about the prospect of tasking the police with protecting your psuedo legal drug dealing club...you could potentially be seen as a bit of a jerk. Or at least self interested.
Seems very doable. Will you take this avenue Cat?
Looking for some pictures in here?!
Cool, discussion! Michigan has it's own set of problems
Anyone else down in Flint yesterday for the MICBD conference?
Had little vandal issue again this year but we nipped that. What's hitting is hitting what's not's not.. Best so far hands down (and made many people's day in Flint yesterday) was Citral Flo from Ethos. If you saw the Yoopers down there you found us..
So after a lot of confusion is cleared with this I'm still not happy but there's really no where to go but into the new program... in the end patient access and quality are substantially improved and will allow for safer, more professional access. I guess the patient wins and everyone else gets way better at jumping through hoops. Lots of niches to fill and in the end we'll all be working our assess off pushing paperwork. I'm worried about the zoning issues and petty local boards that aren't going to work with us.
Im pretty displeased with this year and I honestly have taken very few pictures... I'll throw the dry porn up LOL. I had about 36 plants worth a fuck and it all comes back to the dirt.
Fix or toss dirt? PH on some holes is still in the 8's and 6.7-7.1 in others. That's with 6.5 water.
I did drop wet trimming all together, you guys were right. Last year was good but this year has some absolute fire. Just pathetic plant size.
Anyone else down in Flint yesterday for the MICBD conference?
Had little vandal issue again this year but we nipped that. What's hitting is hitting what's not's not.. Best so far hands down (and made many people's day in Flint yesterday) was Citral Flo from Ethos. If you saw the Yoopers down there you found us..
So after a lot of confusion is cleared with this I'm still not happy but there's really no where to go but into the new program... in the end patient access and quality are substantially improved and will allow for safer, more professional access. I guess the patient wins and everyone else gets way better at jumping through hoops. Lots of niches to fill and in the end we'll all be working our assess off pushing paperwork. I'm worried about the zoning issues and petty local boards that aren't going to work with us.
Im pretty displeased with this year and I honestly have taken very few pictures... I'll throw the dry porn up LOL. I had about 36 plants worth a fuck and it all comes back to the dirt.
Fix or toss dirt? PH on some holes is still in the 8's and 6.7-7.1 in others. That's with 6.5 water.
I did drop wet trimming all together, you guys were right. Last year was good but this year has some absolute fire. Just pathetic plant size.
Thanks for the update. You sound like your going to continue growing, yes?
Depends which day you ask me... But now that I'm not so... financially stressed? I guess a lot came off. More to work on in my life but I won't be giving up yet. I'll do one more season in these buildings and probably try to sell to someone looking for a 500 plant count. I want 1500.
That conference yesterday definitely opened some doors.
Im just trying to get back on level ground. Family relationships work everything has made this year a pretty low point of a year for me. Might be time to get off the rollercoaster and fly solo. I'll leave that at that but it'll bring a lot more focus and dedication back not to mention my emotional well being.
That conference yesterday definitely opened some doors.
Im just trying to get back on level ground. Family relationships work everything has made this year a pretty low point of a year for me. Might be time to get off the rollercoaster and fly solo. I'll leave that at that but it'll bring a lot more focus and dedication back not to mention my emotional well being.
I thought about attending the conference in flint but seeing as there are no rules or regulations in place I figured I'd wait until the lawyers had some solid info.
As soon as the board is filled and there are actual guidelines they will have another conference or two I'm guessing. Zoning will be a big issue for sure.
I'm not sure patients will benefit from this law or not. Not sure quality will go up either. Pretty sure arrests will go up though.
As soon as the board is filled and there are actual guidelines they will have another conference or two I'm guessing. Zoning will be a big issue for sure.
I'm not sure patients will benefit from this law or not. Not sure quality will go up either. Pretty sure arrests will go up though.
caterpillar710
Member
I have too much In it not to
so many growers down here have no idea what is goin on.
this new switch in law made me change careers to fungi.
shiitakes are my new focus and I feel confident that they will pay me right if I work hard at it.
no where near cannabis prices, but hey, its legitimate, I have no cap on how much I can produce and way less overhead. a friend also stated microgreens would be profitable, but I don't see the market in MI booming as much as fungi...yet
Indoor shrimp farmer...
oldschool growe
Member
one word ....Pro mix .Its proven ! That's why !
disboikrazy
Member
Sho, how much did the grading n leveling the land cost u?
Looking to make something happen outdoor this coming year.
Looking to make something happen outdoor this coming year.
