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[DuskrayTroubador]

looked like pm, any updates ?

Nothing yet. The next time I'm going out there is the day after tomorrow. I might spray with something but, keep in mind, I'm going to be harvesting 6 days afterwards so I'm not sure if I want to spray anything.

What I am thinking of doing is bathing that plant in hydrogen peroxide water after harvest, supposedly it kills all of the PM and takes it out. I'm not totally sure though.

Either way it was only on that one plant (the KC33 have been resistant to EVERYTHING this year, the Green Poison on the other hand, not as much. It's the smallest Green Poison with what looks like PM on it)

So I'm hoping for some answers on whether or not it's safe to spray with anything this late and whether or not I should just bathe the harvested branches in hydrogen peroxide water. In fact, should I just bathe all of the Green Poison?

Also, if anyone has experience with either strain, how much weight am I going to be losing out on by chopping on the 25th or 26th? That's 10 days from the last pictures I posted, and I'm really not sure how much weight they're going to pack on in that time period. I might do the crazy thing and give them an extra week and hope they last the first week of bow season. This land IS hunted though, there have been arrows I've found in the area, and there is a tree stand nearby, though upwind.

 

[grow nerd]

I think it'd be cool if you changed your avatar to:

 

[shawkmon]

lol shakira , good luck, maybe the pm wont spread

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

lol shakira , good luck, maybe the pm wont spread

I went out today and has it spread? Yes, but ever so slightly. I found one tiny leaf on a KC33 with it but that's about it. Idk if I'm just going to soak every branch with signs in hydrogen peroxide after harvest but I think that's about my only option at this point, with harvest 6 days away.

Here is a pic of that little leaf on the KC33:

Here are some other pics of the KC33s starting to fill out:

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Here is a group pic of the main plot and a couple pics of Green Poison, which smells like heaven

And a couple pics of a different KC33:

Seeing the KC33 finally starting to fill out makes it even harder to take them early...

 

[shawkmon]

gettin fat, id just leave them be, no spray , spray makes hay ! , ive seen some plants sprayed for pm,. seems the spray sprAYS goodness out of the nugs, maybe kills some terps, i think my friend used sodium bicarb i think. live and learn and see reasults for yourself

 

[OLDproLg]

Good work!!

Guerrilla stuff is hard....
Looks like its gonna KILL for ya!
Hows that KC33 smell?
Lg

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Good work!!

Guerrilla stuff is hard....
Looks like its gonna KILL for ya!
Hows that KC33 smell?
Lg

The KC33 smells awesome, almost like lemony with a hint of coffee if that makes any sense lol. The Green Poison are the REAL smellers though, whew! The GP smells like some sweet, fruity goodness straight from Willy Wonka's factory.

There's not many areas where the GP outdoes the KC33, but smell is definitely one.

As far as looking like it's gonna be a killer harvest? Eh, I'm not so sure. The bud it sure to be righteous in quality, I have no doubts about that. However, I'm pretty disappointed in the yield. Several different things played into it, but all things considered the yield, as it looks thus far, appears to be something I'm going to be pretty disappointed in whenever the dried, trimmed bud hits the scale.

You can bet I'll be the happiest motherfucker around whenever I roll up a nice doob of that KC33 though

Some things I'm going to do differently for next year in to improve results are (just off the top of my head):

Sunlight
I need to find a different location(s) to grow in where there is a bigger window of sunlight. Sunlight this year was pretty minimal, I would say the biggest plants got, at best, 6 hours of direct sunlight a day. That has to be improved on next year.

Soil
My holes are going to be bigger next year. I'm thinking ~4' in diameter and 2'-3' (most likely 2, that last foot is a bitch!) deep. That leaves me with about 190 gallon holes, up to ~280 gallons if I dig 3' deep.

On top of digging bigger holes I'm going to haul in soil from areas near streams/ponds/rivers or low-lying woodlands to mix in with the native soil (99% chance the native soil will be clay of some sort) to spruce it up a bit and give it some more fertility as well as a loamier texture to make things easier for the roots as they grow. Also gonna mix in some sand and perhaps a little compost, though not too much because I'm still going to feed em with Jack's Classic and Blossom Booster, even more heavily than I did this year. I was rather cautious this year until the stretch period (when I was giving 2x the recommended dose) and I noticed that no matter how much fertilizer I threw at the KC33 those fat bitches ate it up and didn't show the smallest sign of nute burn.

Watering
In addition to upping the dosages of ferts next year, I'm also going to give them more water and I'm going to focus even more on water retention, especially with the looser, loamier soil that I will be hauling in from low-lying areas and near water sources. The plastic bottles I buried this year were good, they helped a lot with making the most out of the water I hauled in by sending most of it straight to the roots as opposed to much of it evaporating on the surface. However, (and partly due to the nature of the native clay soil) the water often took a great deal of time to leech into the soil and sat in the bottle for some time due to the slow absorption rate later in waterings when the clay was already saturated around the bottom of the bottle.

To fix this and speed up the process (and the problem shouldn't be as bad with looser, loamier soil) I'm going to be burying 4 bottles around each plant. That way there's more holes to pour water down to the roots through so I can give them more water faster.

I'm also going to heed the advice of many members of the community and haul in some mulch to lay down. Several benefits to it in addition to water retention, such as keeping fungus off of plants.

Hopefully that will all better quench their thirst and prevent any heat stress.

I'm also gonna put germinated seeds into 2 gallon pots until transplant rather than 16 oz cups. I don't want to run the risk of seedlings getting rootbound at all. This year They were in 16 oz cups for 2 weeks and their roots had already reached the sides of the cups. Can't be having that.

gettin fat, id just leave them be, no spray , spray makes hay ! , ive seen some plants sprayed for pm,. seems the spray sprAYS goodness out of the nugs, maybe kills some terps, i think my friend used sodium bicarb i think. live and learn and see reasults for yourself

I harvested yesterday and I had opted not to spray anything before hand. Although, I did fill a big plastic container with water, dumped in some hydrogen peroxide in that and then dunked all the Green Poison branches in it. It washed the PM right the fuck out. I hung the buds up afterwards and they still smelled as they had before I dunked them, so I'm reeeeeaaaalllly hoping there is no ill effect from the hydrogen peroxide. We shall see, but I won't be surprised if there's some discoloration or diminished smell of some sort.

Here is a picture of what I have drying. This is 4 rows deep, and then there are 2 more rows hanging in another room not pictured.

I haven't taken off any fan leaves or anything yet obviously, was in a big hurry when I took them in, just chopped the branches off the stalks and strung em up.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Here are some pictures I took before harvest.

Here is a family photo taken just before chop, (kinda sad when you think about it, right?) you can see the Green Poison and KC33 on the left have begun to fade out of the window of sunlight with it being later in the year and the sun being lower in the sky:

Here is a backside pic of the 8' KC33, you can also see the window of sunlight on the plot this year:

Didn't notice until now that I didn't get the whole plant in this pic, but here is a bushier, 6' KC33:

Here is the top missing from the last pic:

...and she's ready for her close-up

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Here is the 8' KC33 center, with a smaller KC33 on the right, on its left is the KC33 that got snapped pretty far down the stalk by high winds earlier in the year and it ended up a nice little wishbone

And on the far left you can see the fishing line holding up the KC33 that was gettin' a lil top heavy, if ya know what I mean

Gotta give the Green Poison some love too:

 

[OLDproLg]

Shucks...

You had to chop very early it looks?
Oh,i bet next time will kill then!
peace,Lg

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Shucks...

You had to chop very early it looks?
Oh,i bet next time will kill then!
peace,Lg

Yeah, bow season is a little early this year and the land IS hunted on. There's a tree stand about 50 yards away so it wasn't really worth the risk. I would have liked to let the Green Poison go another week and the KC33 another two weeks, but the world is an imperfect place

I do suspect the KC33 had a good deal more weight to put on though...

But yeah, next year is gonna

In addition to taking stock of all the improvements to make for next year, I have already scoured Google Earth for new guerrilla spots and my efforts have been fruitful thus far, a good number of spots (throughout 5 locations, some of which are relatively close to one another) and all the spots have pretty much all day sun (11+ hours in July, 8+ at the end of September according to the sunlight tool on GE).

All are within a mile of back ass boondock dirt roads and with the exception of one or two potential spots with a house about 1/3 mile away, they don't have any houses or buildings in the vicinity. Maybe a house or two within a mile, but even those are few and far between.

Some of the spots (the most away from buildings) are along this creek and they have great sun exposure and they're very secluded and there's no real reason for anyone to be out there (there are several recreational trails a few miles away) and there's room for PLENTY of plants (though I don't see myself doing 6 to 8 in each plot for the biggest plots). The only thing is I'm not sure how comfortable I am using the creek water for the plants, the creek has been contaminated but its "restoration project" has been "successful" but

 

[shawkmon]

might have been worth it to risk someone finding or not finding, it seems the yeild was severely hampered by the early chop. on the good note i love weed chopped earlier than others, i like clear cloudy , not ambers. i think the plants give a better buzz , just might not last as long .

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

might have been worth it to risk someone finding or not finding, it seems the yeild was severely hampered by the early chop. on the good note i love weed chopped earlier than others, i like clear cloudy , not ambers. i think the plants give a better buzz , just might not last as long .

 

[Apache Kush]

cloudy vs amber that is the question...

 

[Apache Kush]

Hey looking good there!

Those are some healthy looking plants! nice lush green.

a little note on supercropping, though. typically supercropping involves kinking a branch, where as it looks as if you are kinking a petiole. a petiole is what conects a leaf to a branch. Unless I'm seeing it wrong, from the looks of that close up shot on the second page, you are correct that it looks a bit premature as those auxilary nodes dont look as if they'd shot out into branches at that point. To encourage branching, folks top the plant, or lst or super crop that main stalk.
The reason this works is the plant hormones auxin and cytokynin. auxin is produced in the highest top of the plant where it falls through the plant with gravity, supressing the growth of branches on the way down. cytokynin is produced lower and works its way up encouraching upward growth. If you remove that main source of auxin temporarily by topping, or decrease auxin's downward flow by supercropping or lsting, you'll encourage branching!

The internodal spacing on those last ones seem nice, if you'd like them to fill in I'd recommend topping

Hope that helps some. great looking grow so far!

good luck!

Badass tip! I remember reading this before, but you just reminded me to always top that main stem fooo show