RosettaStoned
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Nice work man! They look nice and healthy. Have you thought about mulching them with anything?
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Thanks! I'm not opposed to the idea but I'm really not sure what it would do for me in these circumstances.
I've been spraying for blight and all has been good, so I'm not too concerned with putting mulch down to help prevent that. Although, I had planned on spraying a final blight defense application of Daconil, a contact killer, but I've elected not to after doing a little research on the active ingredient chlorothalonil and read that it's suspected to cause tumors in the kidneys. The experiments were done through a chlorothalonil inclusive diet given to mice, but as a general rule of thumb I hold that combustion and inhalation of something (i.e. smoking the weed with this shit on/in it) is much worse than ingesting it orally because it bypasses your body's natural filters. And everyone knows combusting chemicals and fumes are no bueno.
The native soil here is a nice clay that retains water very well, perhaps even better than I would like! Plus because the water goes a few inches down through the bottles, there isn't a whole lot of water to keep from evaporating anyway.
Am I forgetting something that would be beneficial from laying down some mulch? At this point if it will help my yield I'm down.
Also, your plants are looking nice! I couldn't help but see the Brainstorm and the bagseed and wish my Green Poison would grow out nice and fat and bushy like that. When do you think your two Jack phenos will finish? I'm at a little bit lower lat than you and I don't have it in me to see if anything with Haze genetics will finish early enough, though I'm pulling for yours to change my mind!
they look like they goona explode ..
grew this strain beforen loved it..
just imagine 1 more month of veg to go
Yeah I'm pretty excited. From what I read about how much KC33 stretches, it basically is like getting an extra month of veg! I don't know how dense KC33 buds are and I'm not sure just exactly how big these girls will end up (my first time with the strain) but I'm hoping for some big christmas trees each a nice yield of quality smoke from each one.
I'm also changing up my ferts from all veg to 50/50 veg/flower next week. This way they're still getting some nitrogen to keep growing tall.
RosettaStoned
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I'm too stoned to be able to find it, but I believe there was a thread somewhere on Icmag where someone did clones side by side and the mulched plants yielded a bit more than the bare ones. If the soil stays soaked most of the time, I wouldn't mulch, but otherwise I would, a least lightly. If you are doing them organically it'll help your micro-herd.
Thanks, though. I vegged the Brainstorm and the JH girls for 2 months before I put them out at the beginning of the season. I tried to get at least 40-50 gallons of soil for each of them. The Brainstorm got the most and it shows. If you train your main stems sideways it'll help you get bushier plants, it really helps me since I don't have full sun. It's hard to say when things will finish here, sometimes they just keeping going and going, but generally I harvest most of my plants in October, maybe late September if it's they're early. I've had late flowering plants pull through alright here, but they have to be mold resistant because the end of the season can get totally rained out. One sativa-leaning girl I had my first season pulled through an entire month of only rain and overcast days, harvested her mid-November and I only lost 2-3 tops to mold. I fear the more indica Jack Herer has been delayed from stress, but hopefully she pulls through okay.
Thanks, though. I vegged the Brainstorm and the JH girls for 2 months before I put them out at the beginning of the season. I tried to get at least 40-50 gallons of soil for each of them. The Brainstorm got the most and it shows. If you train your main stems sideways it'll help you get bushier plants, it really helps me since I don't have full sun. It's hard to say when things will finish here, sometimes they just keeping going and going, but generally I harvest most of my plants in October, maybe late September if it's they're early. I've had late flowering plants pull through alright here, but they have to be mold resistant because the end of the season can get totally rained out. One sativa-leaning girl I had my first season pulled through an entire month of only rain and overcast days, harvested her mid-November and I only lost 2-3 tops to mold. I fear the more indica Jack Herer has been delayed from stress, but hopefully she pulls through okay.
Next year my situation may be very different from what it is now, however I took an idea from Silverback that I will be applying next year. I won't be mixing an organic soil together, however I will be filling up buckets of nice, loamy soil from the area near a creek or low-lying woodlands and use that to fill my holes. I''ll then put some much on top of that, but my choice of fertilizer will most likely remain Jack's as opposed to mixing in things like EWC and and bat guano.
Went out yesterday and They're beginning to explode, but on the bottom of one of the Green Poisons I saw a couple fucked up leaves and I'm not quite sure what's going on.
Here are a couple pics:
Does anyone know what this is and if it's serious?
I have decided to go ahead and get some Daconil to spray down one last layer of defense against blight. I have noticed this year though that while the Green Poison have had a little trouble with insects and a funky looking leaf here or there, nothign has phased or stalled the KC33s at all. Persistent motherfuckers, except of course for the one a big storm snapped.
Here are some other pics I took:
In this photo, on the left is the Green Poison that those leaves above came from
A Green Poison who doesn't get as much sun:
Went out today, all the girls are beginning to flower and they're looking good, except for one Green Poison:
Not quite certain what's wrong with her, but she was laying on her side and that's what she looked like after I propped her back up. None of the other plants were like this so I have my doubts that it's due to under/overwatering.
Unless the smoke and yield are both superb, I don't think I am going to run the Green Poison next year. It hasn't been bad, but it has been noticeably less vigilant in every regard than the KC33s. The KC33s haven't really flinched at anything this year, but the GP have been growing more slowly, seem a little more fragile, and definitely were affected more by insects. Next year I think I'm going to run KC36 and Leda Uno instead.
Also I'm now up to 2x the normal dose of fertilizer to account for the extreme stretching the plants are going through. No signs of burn on any of the KC33, though the Green Poison have showed signs of a little nute burn. KC33 are grunts, they can take it.
The tallest KC33 is well over 6' now, the others not far behind. I'm hoping they finish between 7-8' and maybe yield a # a piece, that'd be fucking wonderful!
Here are some updated pics from today:
I was hoping to see this girl fill out a little more, but she doesn't get the most sunlight, you can see her stretching into it.
Here is the healthiest Green Poison, you can see a little leaf burn on the bottom though.
Not quite certain what's wrong with her, but she was laying on her side and that's what she looked like after I propped her back up. None of the other plants were like this so I have my doubts that it's due to under/overwatering.
Unless the smoke and yield are both superb, I don't think I am going to run the Green Poison next year. It hasn't been bad, but it has been noticeably less vigilant in every regard than the KC33s. The KC33s haven't really flinched at anything this year, but the GP have been growing more slowly, seem a little more fragile, and definitely were affected more by insects. Next year I think I'm going to run KC36 and Leda Uno instead.
Also I'm now up to 2x the normal dose of fertilizer to account for the extreme stretching the plants are going through. No signs of burn on any of the KC33, though the Green Poison have showed signs of a little nute burn. KC33 are grunts, they can take it.
The tallest KC33 is well over 6' now, the others not far behind. I'm hoping they finish between 7-8' and maybe yield a # a piece, that'd be fucking wonderful!
Here are some updated pics from today:
I was hoping to see this girl fill out a little more, but she doesn't get the most sunlight, you can see her stretching into it.
Here is the healthiest Green Poison, you can see a little leaf burn on the bottom though.
Nes
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Hey looking good there!
Those are some healthy looking plants! nice lush green.
a little note on supercropping, though. typically supercropping involves kinking a branch, where as it looks as if you are kinking a petiole. a petiole is what conects a leaf to a branch. Unless I'm seeing it wrong, from the looks of that close up shot on the second page, you are correct that it looks a bit premature as those auxilary nodes dont look as if they'd shot out into branches at that point. To encourage branching, folks top the plant, or lst or super crop that main stalk.
The reason this works is the plant hormones auxin and cytokynin. auxin is produced in the highest top of the plant where it falls through the plant with gravity, supressing the growth of branches on the way down. cytokynin is produced lower and works its way up encouraching upward growth. If you remove that main source of auxin temporarily by topping, or decrease auxin's downward flow by supercropping or lsting, you'll encourage branching!
The internodal spacing on those last ones seem nice, if you'd like them to fill in I'd recommend topping
Hope that helps some. great looking grow so far!
good luck!
Those are some healthy looking plants! nice lush green.
a little note on supercropping, though. typically supercropping involves kinking a branch, where as it looks as if you are kinking a petiole. a petiole is what conects a leaf to a branch. Unless I'm seeing it wrong, from the looks of that close up shot on the second page, you are correct that it looks a bit premature as those auxilary nodes dont look as if they'd shot out into branches at that point. To encourage branching, folks top the plant, or lst or super crop that main stalk.
The reason this works is the plant hormones auxin and cytokynin. auxin is produced in the highest top of the plant where it falls through the plant with gravity, supressing the growth of branches on the way down. cytokynin is produced lower and works its way up encouraching upward growth. If you remove that main source of auxin temporarily by topping, or decrease auxin's downward flow by supercropping or lsting, you'll encourage branching!
The internodal spacing on those last ones seem nice, if you'd like them to fill in I'd recommend topping
Hope that helps some. great looking grow so far!
good luck!
Yeah my thought process at the time was supercropping the branches in order to get the knuckles in each branch to encourage the flow of nutrients. Now that you say that it probably would have been more beneficial to just supercrop the main stalk so that they have a chance to grow out horizontally first before supercropping the branches to get the knuckles that will pump more nutrients out when the budding starts.
I went out a few days ago and things are looking good! The Green Poison with the super droopy leaves has picked itself up, all signs of nutrient burn have disappeared, and the plants are stretching like silly putty! I'm currently up to 2x the normal dose of ferts and the plants are eating it up!
Gave them their transition feeding to really encourage budding, and I'm going to check the ph soon and see when I need to add some ph up to account for the ph loss from the use of flowering ferts.
Here is a pic from a few days ago of the Green Poison:
Here is a plot shot, there's a KC33 in the back right that's shaded so it's hard to see:
The KC33 in the shade:
This mama right here is about 7' tall
Here is a shot of one of the nodes on that KC33 above, kind of a bad pic but oh well
Gave them their transition feeding to really encourage budding, and I'm going to check the ph soon and see when I need to add some ph up to account for the ph loss from the use of flowering ferts.
Here is a pic from a few days ago of the Green Poison:
Here is a plot shot, there's a KC33 in the back right that's shaded so it's hard to see:
The KC33 in the shade:
This mama right here is about 7' tall
Here is a shot of one of the nodes on that KC33 above, kind of a bad pic but oh well
Here is another KC33, she's a little shorter, around 5'6" or so
A green poison, probably the healthiest of the 3 GP
And here is a small Green Poison, she didn't get as much sun during veg as the other plants but she's a trooper and healthy as can be
And just a picture I thought was cool
A green poison, probably the healthiest of the 3 GP
And here is a small Green Poison, she didn't get as much sun during veg as the other plants but she's a trooper and healthy as can be
And just a picture I thought was cool
ManyManySpliffs
Active member
Plants coming along nicely. Cant wait to see them flower up. You're in for a really nice harvest. I did a bunch of supercropping and LSTing this year and WoW is all I can say about the results. I've supercropped on accident in the past, bending or breaking a branch. At the time, didn't know it had a name. lol Recommend those methods to anyone who wants an increase in yield.
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been pretty busy with shit.
Went out this morning and gave them their last dose of fertilizer, it's just straight water from here on out.
Here is a shot of the main plot:
Here are a couple pics of the KC33 budding:
And here are a couple pics of the Green Poison:
Like I said, I've never grown either strain before, so I'm very curious to see how much they yield. I'm hoping for about a # per plant from the 4 or 5 biggest ones. There are 6 plants 6' or over, one of which is over 7' and another 8'
The buds on the Green Poison look fucking sexy!
Went out this morning and gave them their last dose of fertilizer, it's just straight water from here on out.
Here is a shot of the main plot:
Here are a couple pics of the KC33 budding:
And here are a couple pics of the Green Poison:
Like I said, I've never grown either strain before, so I'm very curious to see how much they yield. I'm hoping for about a # per plant from the 4 or 5 biggest ones. There are 6 plants 6' or over, one of which is over 7' and another 8'
The buds on the Green Poison look fucking sexy!
I gave them their last dose of fertilizers last wednesday, so 5 days ago and today I started flushing with straight water. I decided to begin flushing because I will be harvesting no later than 9/26 because bow hunting season starts the following day.
Do you guys think I have time to get one more feeding in when I go up on the 12th or is it too late?
Do you guys think I have time to get one more feeding in when I go up on the 12th or is it too late?
they look pretty green, if you have to harvest that early id let it be...
That's what I was thinking... No signs of nutrient deficiency yet, and only about 2 and a half weeks to go.
It's not a terribly early harvest either, the Green Poison should be done by then and the KC33 will probably have a week or so left to go whenever I take them on the 26th. Better than a bowhunter stumbling on them and ripping them. There are treestands in the area and the plots are along a deer path so it's really the best bet to take them out on the 26th.
It's not a terribly early harvest either, the Green Poison should be done by then and the KC33 will probably have a week or so left to go whenever I take them on the 26th. Better than a bowhunter stumbling on them and ripping them. There are treestands in the area and the plots are along a deer path so it's really the best bet to take them out on the 26th.
Here are some pictures from a couple days ago, I went up to give them some plain water.
A KC33 budding:
And a Green Poison:
A KC33 budding:
And a Green Poison:
I went out yesterday and took some pictures while I watered them.
Everything looks good, except the two smaller Green Poisons are making me raise an eyebrow. One has what looks like it could be PM on it (though I don't think so) and the other the leaves have started yellowing, though instead of it starting with the bottom leaves it is yellowing uniformly throughout.
Some pics of KC33 plants:
Here is a Pic of the what the yellowing leaves look like on the one GP:
Everything looks good, except the two smaller Green Poisons are making me raise an eyebrow. One has what looks like it could be PM on it (though I don't think so) and the other the leaves have started yellowing, though instead of it starting with the bottom leaves it is yellowing uniformly throughout.
Some pics of KC33 plants:
Here is a Pic of the what the yellowing leaves look like on the one GP:
Here is the rest of that plant:
Here is the GP with what looks like PM on it:
Luckily it is the only plant in the garden that looks like that.
Here is the GP with what looks like PM on it:
Luckily it is the only plant in the garden that looks like that.
Here is what one of the healthy Green Poisons looks like:
These pictures like I said were taken yesterday, so from what they look like in these pictures they will be taken down 10 days from that point. I have to take them early for security reasons, but I'm really kinda bummed... Not really sure how much they're going to fill out in the next 10 days.
These pictures like I said were taken yesterday, so from what they look like in these pictures they will be taken down 10 days from that point. I have to take them early for security reasons, but I'm really kinda bummed... Not really sure how much they're going to fill out in the next 10 days.
