150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[DiscoBiscuit]

Not much choice but to cut these, the fan stems are up to 8" long. They take a beating and eventually have to go.

I know what you mean about culling lower growth. Sometimes impulse says hold off. I probably could have culled a few lower nodes on these but wanted to see what they'd do first. (I should have just fucking cut em and been done with it.)

 

[darkvade420]

Not much choice but to cut these, the fan stems are up to 8" long. They take a beating and eventually have to go.

I know what you mean about culling lower growth. Sometimes impulse says hold off. I probably could have culled a few lower nodes on these but wanted to see what they'd do first. (I should have just fucking cut em and been done with it.)

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Well they are looking pretty nice did you get rid of the alien double dog clone?

 

[Rambro]

ok so ive got 6 sour 60(autoflower) under a 150w hps and 4 turned out to be male. im looking to maximize yield in a 3.75 sq foot tent and make sure i always have something to smoke on. should i do 12/12 from seed or stick with autoflowers? i dont really wanna do a regular grow like with vegging for a few weeks then flowering because then i cant really do a perpetual type grow and i know ill smoke my whole yield from a 150hps before the next grow is complete. i could perhaps make a tiny box (or pc case) for clones and a mother plant or 2 if necessary can anyone point me in the direction of a thread with a micro perpetual with a 150w hps?

 

[darkvade420]

ok so ive got 6 sour 60(autoflower) under a 150w hps and 4 turned out to be male. im looking to maximize yield in a 3.75 sq foot tent and make sure i always have something to smoke on. should i do 12/12 from seed or stick with autoflowers? i dont really wanna do a regular grow like with vegging for a few weeks then flowering because then i cant really do a perpetual type grow and i know ill smoke my whole yield from a 150hps before the next grow is complete. i could perhaps make a tiny box (or pc case) for clones and a mother plant or 2 if necessary can anyone point me in the direction of a thread with a micro perpetual with a 150w hps?

To do a perpetual id toss 2 new seeds in every 2 weeks so you can harvest about a 1/4-/1/12 every two weeks after the first harvest. Also you can keep all the plant about the same size that way for even lighting always..

 

[Rambro]

To do a perpetual id toss 2 new seeds in every 2 weeks so you can harvest about a 1/4-/1/12 every two weeks after the first harvest. Also you can keep all the plant about the same size that way for even lighting always..

looks like i might have 5/6 males, feel like i wasted my money going with sour 60. you think i should do a perpetual with more autos or what?

 

[darkvade420]

looks like i might have 5/6 males, feel like i wasted my money going with sour 60. you think i should do a perpetual with more autos or what?

sounds like you just have bad luck you can always get a mother plant and clone it.or do autos nothing wrong with that.just depends on what you like.Honestly if your going to grow small plants there shouldnt be much differnece from starting them all at 12/12 OR waiting for the autos to click its probley about the same harvest time but if you have a guaranteed female mother plant you can always have female clones and always flip them about 7 days after they root.

 

[Rambro]

sounds like you just have bad luck you can always get a mother plant and clone it.or do autos nothing wrong with that.just depends on what you like.Honestly if your going to grow small plants there shouldnt be much differnece from starting them all at 12/12 OR waiting for the autos to click its probley about the same harvest time but if you have a guaranteed female mother plant you can always have female clones and always flip them about 7 days after they root.

yea im not too pissed about it, i know thats just how the game goes and karma caught up to me finally cuz this past summer i had about 10 plants outdoors and only 2 were males. do you think 12/12 from seed will yield more than running auto's? dunno why im asking, i just ordered 3 feminized seeds (female seeds brand Pure AK, Iced Grapefruit, and Skunk Special. got a UFO white widow as a freebie too). anyone know the bare minimum size cab and light i can get away with to make some clones/moms?

 

[darkvade420]

yea im not too pissed about it, i know thats just how the game goes and karma caught up to me finally cuz this past summer i had about 10 plants outdoors and only 2 were males. do you think 12/12 from seed will yield more than running auto's? dunno why im asking, i just ordered 3 feminized seeds (female seeds brand Pure AK, Iced Grapefruit, and Skunk Special. got a UFO white widow as a freebie too). anyone know the bare minimum size cab and light i can get away with to make some clones/moms?

Well i have cloned my last 2 crops with one 26 w cfl bulb and veged the new ones now at 1 1/2 x3 with 2x 26 w cfls.cloning sure did get way easier for me after i got a clone dome and started using hormex solution and a heat mat but i hear its not neccary but when i dont want to mess around thats what i use.But id say use as much light as you can to veg faster.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

... do you think 12/12 from seed will yield more than running auto's?

Depends on the strain. Training and trimming help but additional veg time makes the big difference. Just don't veg too long with stretchy strains or you may overgrow your flower space. You can get decent yields with minimal veg if you increase the number of plants.

anyone know the bare minimum size cab and light i can get away with to make some clones/moms?

Depends on how big your moms are and that depends on how many cuts you wish to take at a given time. My veg area is the same size as flower but not as tall. You'll need space for mothers and cloner.

Mine is roughly 15" wide x 23.5 deep. I use three 23 watt CFLs. Plants won't grow as big as they would under HID but they mature at roughly the same rate.




The smaller your veg area, the more you'll have to trim mothers or root a cutting from mothers that get too big. It's a pain in the ass but goes with the territory. You can feed half strength nutes, give minimal lighting and other tricks to keep mothers from overgrowing their space. The trick is having the number of cuts you need, when you need them.

 

[darkvade420]

Here is the dro its day 43 12/12 growing next to the pk plant under 150w hps in a 2x2x5 cab this one i trimmed it all up before flower left the top bud only and a couple of small branches lower down.

 

[darkvade420]

My bush is starting to get red hairs on day 32 anyone know what could be going on or is this normal?

 

[GrowBox420]

Seedless System @ work

Seedless System @ work

Introducing...

C4 OG{Left} & Uk Ultra{Right}


C4 OG... I haven't grown a bud with this kind of structure

Uk Ultra... This is more of what I'm used to seeing

Stay Safe ...

 

[darkvade420]

Introducing...
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C4 OG{Left} & Uk Ultra{Right}

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C4 OG... I haven't grown a bud with this kind of structure
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Uk Ultra... This is more of what I'm used to seeing

Stay Safe ...

Haha i remeber the seedless store back in ocean beach san diego years ago gotta love it.. that buds looking real sweet how many days has it been flowering?

 

[darkvade420]

skunk

skunk

Anyone out there remember the original skunk ?it used to smell 100% like a skunk and it was so strong of a smell also!
All these guys who opened dispenceries out here im pretty sure close there starbucks and opened dispenceries.Tehy claim they have skunk and they talk about how smelly it is so its called skunk.. but it could be smelly like oranges or berries or ass and they call it skunk for that reason!I ask them if they have the skunk that smells like a skunk there eye brows raise and arms go up in question some have even went as far as to tell me that nobody liked that strain and its terrable.But i have been smoking for 18 years and i know for a fact there is weed that smells 100% like a skunk!!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

You're talking about RKS - Road Kill Skunk. Rez was in the process of selecting a hybrid for the RKS smell. He made it clear he didn't necessarily have RKS genes but he could manage the classic aroma. That was last year and nobody's heard from him since July. My last RKS experience was 1983. Looked like somebody grew it with 40w T12 shop lamps, lol. The buds were small and airy. But the smell, taste and stone more than made up for lack of visual appeal.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

darkvade, have you ever checked out Jeff Beck's Truth album? Jimmy Page said it was the blueprint for Led Zep.

 

[darkvade420]

You're talking about RKS - Road Kill Skunk. Rez was in the process of selecting a hybrid for the RKS smell. He made it clear he didn't necessarily have RKS genes but he could manage the classic aroma. That was last year and nobody's heard from him since July. My last RKS experience was 1983. Looked like somebody grew it with 40w T12 shop lamps, lol. The buds were small and airy. But the smell, taste and stone more than made up for lack of visual appeal.

There first bag i had was in 1998 in cali it was in the form of compressed schwag but the smell was to much to handle.The last time i had real skunk was 2006 in Colorado and it was in the form of nugs.I went halfers with my freind on a 1/4 and that was the last i seen it.i noticed when dispenceries went up the true strains i grew up smoking for ever went away>i fucking hate trendy yups jumping into things i like and fucking them up acting like thats where they are from because now its trendy!they have ruined my day lolBut im betting them good skunk seeds are sitting around in peoples old seed collections from the good old schwag.when people used to be happy with a bag of compressed green bud cause nugs werent sold at the store and drugs were illegal

 

[darkvade420]

darkvade, have you ever checked out Jeff Beck's Truth album? Jimmy Page said it was the blueprint for Led Zep.

hey checked some of it out pretty cool stuff.First rock album i ever heard was pink floyd darkside of the moon was my favorate rock album for many years!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

In the mid 1960s, Jimmy Page played bass for The Yardbirds. When Jeff Beck left the Yardbirds, Page became lead guitarist. Beck acknowledges that Page is a better guitar player and Page says Beck was a significant influence.

When Beck formed The Jeff Beck Group, Page was no longer interesting in continuing with the Yardbirds and wanted to form a super group with Beck. Page wanted Keith Moon and John Entwistle from The WHO and they considered Steve Winwood and Steve Marriot on vocals.

Keith Moon was a little amused with the whole idea. Moon was said to have coined the name "Led Zeppelin" when jokingly referring to the whole idea as crash and burn. At the same time, Beck, Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood were getting a bad case of the big head and Page turned more attention to studio musicians and new people that no one had heard of.

John Paul Jones was doing studio work for various artists. Plant and Bonham came out of the woodwork and Page realized he didn't need a second guitar, especially Jeff Beck who was imagining himself as the second coming.

 

[J.C.grower]

In the mid 1960s, Jimmy Page played bass for The Yardbirds. When Jeff Beck left the Yardbirds, Page became lead guitarist. Beck acknowledges that Page is a better guitar player and Page says Beck was a significant influence.

When Beck formed The Jeff Beck Group, Page was no longer interesting in continuing with the Yardbirds and wanted to form a super group with Beck. Page wanted Keith Moon and John Entwistle from The WHO and they considered Steve Winwood and Steve Marriot on vocals.

Keith Moon was a little amused with the whole idea. Moon was said to have coined the name "Led Zeppelin" when jokingly referring to the whole idea as crash and burn. At the same time, Beck, Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood were getting a bad case of the big head and Page turned more attention to studio musicians and new people that no one had heard of.

John Paul Jones was doing studio work for various artists. Plant and Bonham came out of the woodwork and Page realized he didn't need a second guitar, especially Jeff Beck who was imagining himself as the second coming.

Great rock history! i did not know about this. thanks disco for the great lesson .

Darkvade- that bud looks soo bomb a frosty, must smell quite pungent. as for your bush getting red hairs, its totally normal, i usually start seeing red hairs appear around day 30 or so..

Growbox420- what great looking ladies! that c4 structure looks intriguing, and that ultra just looks like its gonna produce some danky danks! good luck, ill b posted here waiting for more updates.
My ladies are doing well, will post an update soon
JC