150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[CaptainStoner]

not to argue but i looked at a 70w hps with mag ballast and it was 92 watts power used. I call ~30% extra, quite significant. If a 150 on a mag is 172 that isnt so bad but if its more, bad.

 

[Quazi]

Hey all your 150Weirdos out there!

Thought I'd share pics of my Purple Kush girl, Dorothy, a day or two before the chop with everyone:


The buds turned out big, frosty and stinky:


She didn't develop the purps but your fingers reek of grape Jolly Ranchers after handling. Okay, well, there's a touch of purp as you can see near the bottom of this pic:


Thanks 150W HPS Club and all the members!

-Q

 

[Bulénath]

Quazi....
Shit man I don't even have to say!!!

Funny thing about the Purpling of the weed....




See that purple? Well....When she dried, there was NO hint of purple what-so-ever! Strange isn't it, how weed tends to dry into such a different color than the fresh material.

 

[OahuGrown]

Interesting video about the security. Any experience about the pole blowers from grainger

 

[Bulénath]

Yeah, who knew that telling the absolute truth of inncocence to the cops could very well be your fale demise in almost any court case!

Sorry I have no experience with that fan...
Gota measure my box now, fell asleep early last night!

 

[Bulénath]

White Cabinet Outside dimensions:

35-3/8" High, including the 3/4" thick Melamine top I built for it.
30" Wide.
16" Deep.

The inside is 29-1/2" high form floor to roof.

The flower chamber is roughly 14-1/2" to 5/8" deep and 24-3/8" wide and 17-1/2" High.


My Black cabinet is much bigger and gives about 50% more yeild...
I wasn't going for the max yeild possible when I began the white cabinet construction- I knew it was going to be a small and experimental desgin. So I built the White Cabinet in hopes of supplementing any sort of yeild to help with my medical condition, that is all...For weed is like $20 a gram out here...In the beautful country of Malana

 

[CaptainStoner]

that's a nice plant, quazi.. today, because of what you said, I am measuring my flowering area.. to see if i cant just get away with a digi ballast HPS it might be that that a cmh is overkill for my box.

bulenath, it's about the same price here now in the horrible country of england to buy clean weed that isnt too bad in terms of getting you high.. pay less and its polluted, not get you high nasty crap - hence my grow

edit: Hurm seems i have 53cm x 35cm x ~80cm wxdxh, about 2sq.ft.. cant decide whether to go for my original CMH idea or just get an admittedly cheaper HPS..

 

[Cozy Amnesia]

The fan is a S&P TD-100 4inch fan. The Cfm rating on the website said the fan was 101/97. You can wire it to the high or low rating. However when i recieved the fan the box said the cfm was 110/103 but im not complaining if i got a couple extra cfm's.

Wow man you're right, that fan is bad ass! I think this is the one I'm going to get.

Where did you buy yours from? http://www.hvacquick.com/spfnconfig.php?fm=td has them starting at less than $70.

 

[BL4ZE20]

Cozy Amnesia - Yea man i'm really liking the new fan, i'm sure you'll be just as happy with it if you were to get one. But Hvacquick is where ordered mine from also.. good prices for these fans.

 

[Bulénath]

Let us know how it works out for you!

I am still planning on going with the S&P's to pull on 4x600 bulbs with carbon.

 

[Quazi]

Hello all 150W HPS club members!

Well, it's been quite the journey, but the time finally came. So, it was a:
Harvest for the Holidays!


I harvested Dorothy my Purple Kush girl. She's the first plant harvested out of my cabinet. Started from seed, she broke soil on September 17th. She vegged out for a couple of weeks and headed into flower where she was harvested after being in 12/12 for 59 days. She was grown 100% organic soil and flushed for 2 weeks.







Ended up with 150.2g of manicured bud and around 130g of trim that will be used for butter (holiday cookies!). So, I pulled 280g of plant I plan to use from Dorothy.

Considering she was a bit dry already and a 60% loss of weight I experienced last time with this strain, I'm looking at around 1.7-2.1oz of manicured bud.

Just in time for the holidays.

Check out my thread in my signature to see the whole story of Dorothy or for more pics like this:


Thanks 150W HPS club!

-Q

 

[OahuGrown]

So i haven't yet decided on which to go with for the ventilation. I'd deciding between:
Panasonic Whisperline
S&P 4 in inline
Shaded Pole Fan

i heard good and bad for all fans but which one you you prefer.

Im gonna have a ngb style cab.

Quazi: nice harvest!!

 

[TraneRek]

They are probably on par with the efficiency of the e-ballasts, after start-up.
At these low wattages, the drains are not significant in any event.

Not to rub it in...but the 150hps econolight is $20usd and bulbs run $5.75

Which e-conolight are you refering to? All I can find is this one:
http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EProductDetail.asp?ProductFamilyID=3&FGNumber=E-HC1H151Z

I'm still not sure whether to get that one or:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/150-Watt-High-Pressure-Sodium/

Suggestions?

 

[Quazi]

Both of those are more expensive.

Since you can't link directly to the item, you want to go here first:
http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EFamily.asp

Select "Vapor Tights."

Then select the 150W HPS Pendant on the far right.

That's the 20$ version we're talking about.

The $40.00 you'd spend at the other place, looks to be pretty much the guts of what you get for $20 at e-conolight.

By the way, I will probably get around 1.5oz of dried, cured bud in the end. The 60% loss figure I was using was for some fluoro grown, drier, airier bud.

However, with the trim, it's still more than I expected.

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

-Q

 

[CaptainStoner]

Nice one quazi, enjoy your buds mate

 

[lostinethereal]

Awesome job on Dorothy, Quazi.

TraneRek, you need to click VaporTight on the bottom middle of the main page at e-conolight, then on the far right section of lights, it's "150-watt HPS Pendant". It was $36 and some change shipped in a week, only regret is I didn't just buy 2 of 'em now (one for backup) and another bulb at the same time.

I'm excited to be joining the ranks of the 150 crew, looks like we have plenty of talented fellows here that got their setups dialed in. I'm awaiting shipment of my fan/filter from htgsupply and I'll be setting up my cab promptly. I'm not going to have much head room, and everything will be inside the case for stealth. But I think it'll be rather nice once it's going.

 

[KillerTHC]

im going to be getting a 150watt hps for my stealth cab soon and was wondering how much heat comes of a 150w light, so that i can plan ahead.

 

[TraneRek]

Sweet, thanks for the help! Just ordered one

I also got the glass I'm going to use as my cool tube. However it's diameter is a little under 5 1/4".. I could just use 6" ducting w/ extra weatherstripping on the ends right?

Btw, all these pictures got me pumped! It's amazing how big a yield you can get w/ such small setups. Perfect balance of stealth and yield

-Rek

 

[Bulénath]

Damn! You had me going, I really thought you hit 1GPW!
Nice harvest, Quazi!

Oahugrown,
Cabinet construction, in most cases, is restricted to a grower's initial design.
That means if your fan doesn't suit your needs, your entire design can very well be completely compensated. That is exactly what happened to me, and I burned out for quite some time...All that hard work, sweat, blood, money, all wasted just over finding the right fan!

I have to say, S&P fan's seems like a wonderful option, but I can't help to speculate that the 100CFM-ish model will most likely be louder than 0.6-1.0sones, because after all it still is an Inline Fan...(Even though it's blades are plastic). Though the only inline fan I can compare it too is a Vortex 172CFM which sounds like an mini jet engine( @ 48dBA, def. over 2.5 sones) and has metal blades(I believe)...Still, the basic Inline fan design just seems like it would produce way more noise than the Panasonic's design.

Panasonics are tried and true and probably cheaper in the end when you build the super easy carbon tray, opposed to buying or making a can filter to attach to the 4" vent.
But what concerns me the most is that Hawai'i remians relatively warm at night. I always run my window A/C 24/7 to stablize not only Hawai'i's higher night time/ Day time temperatures, but also the humidity.
(Plants will strech more and produce more foliage, the greater the fluctuation in Humidity and Temperatures from night time to day time.)
I find the plants strech TWICE as much (meaning stem and leaves), when growing the same clones, in the same pots, in the same cabinet, when I do not run the A/C and let the temperatures and humidity run wild like they do out side...
So in the end, my concern would be that the 80CFM model, even though it would work fine, might not cool your cabinet to an optimal temperature without an A/C, because Hawai'i is hot...But it would still do the trick, as long as you have good inner-ventilation, and a remote ballast would help...
And I hesitate to suggest anything larger than the 80CFM model for our micro grows becasue I have no experience with anything larger than 80CFM.
Not that there is a difference in quality, but there would be a definate difference in sound. Still, I think that 0.4-0.5 sones would not be THAT much more than 0.3 sones.

For the record,
I am hitting 4 ounces per 60 days in my black cabinet, with my current strain.
about 2.5 ounces from my white cabient on the average.
I cannot stress how much the Air Condition helps...(Then again I am subject to typical ko'olau weather, out in the back country where the rain rarely stops)...(On that same note, it is colder out here, opposed to Waianae or Ewa side..I couldn't imagine the night time temps out on that side!)

 

[Bulénath]

Sweet, thanks for the help! Just ordered one

I also got the glass I'm going to use as my cool tube. However it's diameter is a little under 5 1/4".. I could just use 6" ducting w/ extra weatherstripping on the ends right?

Btw, all these pictures got me pumped! It's amazing how big a yield you can get w/ such small setups. Perfect balance of stealth and yield

-Rek

Seems like weather stripping would work, if you use enough to wrap a clamp around so you can tighten the seal between the ducting and stripping.