12 Blueberries, Soil, T5 Lights, Advanced Nutrients

[Canniwhatsis]

Yep,.... $177 or so, plus shipping,..... for TEN!!!!!

Plus side, germination rate so far has been 100% on the DJ stuff I've done!

Male/Female split is sofar leaning towards girls,... fingers crossed.......

 

[silver hawaiian]

A lucky man, right?!

 

[TyChe]

how do you guys feel about reverse osmosis water for a deep water culture?

 

[Cptn]

Final Pull

488 Beautiful Grams.

I smoked more than 15 so far.. haha

SO let's say 500 Grams to be fair.


54 watts per T5 High Output Bulb

16 Bulbs for about 90% of the grow
Finishing off with an additional 8 Bulbs.

864 Watts most of the way = .57 Grams per watt.

That Sucks and is partially due to drying some of the weed to fast.

Next time will be better... and if not, I'm going to go HID.

Peace

Hi MileHighGuy,
I REALLY enjoyed your grow, thanks for sharing it.
I am however, disappointed you are blaming the T5's for the yield and thinking about changing. I think it's clear that there were things that impacted your grow that if corrected would have had a major impact.

You have already called out the cure, but frankly, that was probably the lowest impact.
In order of impact (highest first):
1. Harvesting early. The last 2 weeks adds significant weight and those babies were definitely not done growing. This is really bad as it not only impacts weight, but the potency of the bud and can leave you with beautiful weed with no kick. Super fast dry times are an indicator or premature harvest in my experience.

2. Sufficient light added late: The optimal T5 setup is a ceiling of tubes seamlessly covering the grow area. Gaps are a clear sign you are taking shortcuts that will cost you in production. You finally fixed it, but late in the game.

3. Light spectrum: If this was HID, everyone would be telling you how much better HPS is than MH for flowering. Same for T5. You should have bought more red tubes. Some Veg tubes are OK, even desirable but not 50/50. Proper light spectrum has a significant impact on flower weight/density.

4. The hermies: That would have cost you regardless of light source. Not sure being burned by the lights can be isolated as the direct cause of the change. They were already stretching more than the others which is a common male growth trait. Males grow tall to better drop their pollen down on the females. That was a clue of what was to come (they were clones after all). Good job in catching it. Pulling 2 plants would impacted yield regardless of the lights you used. That's another 100 grams or prematurely picked bud you could have had.

Pure speculation, but I think 1-3 above would have added at LEAST an extra 10 grams of weight per plant each (total 78.8 grams per plant instead of 48.8), and if the other 2 had not hermied, that's another 157.6 grams.
Total: 945.6 grams
#2, the extra lights (with correct tubes) would probably add more than 10 grams and keep you close to that 1 gram per what magic number you seek.

Anyway, you did a LOT of things right and really showed everyone that you know what your doing.
I think if you fix those issues in your next grow, you will be a very happy guy.
I am looking forward to seeing the next one!

 

[Canniwhatsis]

RO water is great!,.... cept for the fact that you gotta put EVERYTHING BACK into it!


Can't justify RO filtration given that I grow in soil,.... so don't listen to anything I say!

 

[silver hawaiian]

RO water is great!,.... cept for the fact that you gotta put EVERYTHING BACK into it!


Can't justify RO filtration given that I grow in soil,.... so don't listen to anything I say!

 

[MileHighGuy]

Hi MileHighGuy,
I REALLY enjoyed your grow, thanks for sharing it.
I am however, disappointed you are blaming the T5's for the yield and thinking about changing. I think it's clear that there were things that impacted your grow that if corrected would have had a major impact.

You have already called out the cure, but frankly, that was probably the lowest impact.
In order of impact (highest first):
1. Harvesting early. The last 2 weeks adds significant weight and those babies were definitely not done growing. This is really bad as it not only impacts weight, but the potency of the bud and can leave you with beautiful weed with no kick. Super fast dry times are an indicator or premature harvest in my experience.

2. Sufficient light added late: The optimal T5 setup is a ceiling of tubes seamlessly covering the grow area. Gaps are a clear sign you are taking shortcuts that will cost you in production. You finally fixed it, but late in the game.

3. Light spectrum: If this was HID, everyone would be telling you how much better HPS is than MH for flowering. Same for T5. You should have bought more red tubes. Some Veg tubes are OK, even desirable but not 50/50. Proper light spectrum has a significant impact on flower weight/density.

4. The hermies: That would have cost you regardless of light source. Not sure being burned by the lights can be isolated as the direct cause of the change. They were already stretching more than the others which is a common male growth trait. Males grow tall to better drop their pollen down on the females. That was a clue of what was to come (they were clones after all). Good job in catching it. Pulling 2 plants would impacted yield regardless of the lights you used. That's another 100 grams or prematurely picked bud you could have had.

Pure speculation, but I think 1-3 above would have added at LEAST an extra 10 grams of weight per plant each (total 78.8 grams per plant instead of 48.8), and if the other 2 had not hermied, that's another 157.6 grams.
Total: 945.6 grams
#2, the extra lights (with correct tubes) would probably add more than 10 grams and keep you close to that 1 gram per what magic number you seek.

Anyway, you did a LOT of things right and really showed everyone that you know what your doing.
I think if you fix those issues in your next grow, you will be a very happy guy.
I am looking forward to seeing the next one!

Whats up Cptn... Thanks for the input I really appreciate it, this is why I keep a diary, to improve.

As for the T5's I'm not blaming them at all, they are AWESOME, I rave about them all the time.

In my previous house I didn't have the best setup for keeping temps low, now that I have sufficient cooling, I want to change it up.

IMO the more things I try right now, the better I'll become and the more I will learn.

1. Harvesting early.

Def. an issue and would have yielded more, but we had to move and were already paying extra on the lease to keep them going longer... last day was the last day. But you know what? I'm stoked I did because the high is incredible, good mix of amber and cloudy.... not done yet, could have had more yield, but excellent.

2. Sufficient light added late.

I agree. Lesson Learned, even canopy is a must for T5's and I'm just now getting the hang of LST and do believe I could do better.

3. Light Spectrum: Many think MH is better quality and not much less yield at all. I wanted the best quality and I personally still feel that the blue spectrum is important. That's why I want to have all blue T5's with the red HPS, I really think the T5's will do some major work together with an HPS. But I agree, others will say I'm wrong and thats fine.

4. Interesting thought about the males, makes perfect sense that they were growing taller.... that totally screwed my even canopy... weird how they were all clones off the same plant though.

5. I think topping and training could have also added even more... and I really see your point.... I know that someone who really got T5's dialed could have huge yields.

Even though I did a lot of things right... I still can't believe I harvested so much weed. Seriously I had high goals and want to improve on them, but I am such a fucking rookie it's not even funny. If you look at my previous grows I SUCKED... but I've been learning everyday and spending lots of time with my plants. I really feel Like I'll be getting better everyday for the rest of my life... and won't stop learning.

This has got to be the best hobby ever.

So I'm just guessing, but you're thinking no HPS?

Heres my dilemma: I need to use 8 Bulbs for my Veg setup so that I can start harvesting every 60 or so days. That's either one of my 8 Bulb lights or 2 of the 4 bulbs...

Hmmmm

If I hate the HPS... I will then know what Both can do. I will also now which problems will occur with both.

I'll choose my favorite, and dial it in.

Peace

 

[MileHighGuy]

how do you guys feel about reverse osmosis water for a deep water culture?

Hows your tap water? You could easily use that if the PPM is low.

RO is great, do you have a RO system?

No matter the water, you'll be fine...

What nutrients? Just go Lucas Formula with any water.... you'll be stoked you kept it simple and then go from there!

Maxibloom is like $15 a bag and all you need is 1 Teaspoon per gallon from start to finish, thats it. It already has Calcium and Magnesium if you use RO.... but will work fine with tap water that isn't to hard.

So... What kinda nutes you got mang?

 

[420ish]

420ish - are you using the PH perfect?

sensibloom and sensi grow parts a and b.after mixing ,my ph meter tells me usually around 6.8.my water is usually around 8 untreated after airing for at least 24 hours.the bottles dont say they are ph buffered but thats what my meter tells me.my first run was started under 4 bulb 4 foot t5ho.i bought a digital 400 to finish.for my next bunch of runs i would use the 400 and have the t5s hung on an anglefor plants out of the 400's sweet spot of light.then i just set it up vertical against the wall to side light 1 side.it worked very well.what size hps are you thinking of using?managing heat with a 400 wasnt too bad but was on the high end of ok temps.when i bought a 6oo hps then my temps got into the danger zone (almost 90 constant lights on)and thatwas with a aircooled hood but no good intake. if you have a good cool intake and a good safe way to exhaust,i would try the combo.either way good luck!

 

[Sinse_Farmer]

Great documentary on your "T5 Blueberry op!"

Great documentary on your "T5 Blueberry op!"

MileHighGuy,

First things first, hats off to you for documenting your experimental grow and even though I just read the thread now, (better late than never) I was so stoked going through post by post and watching your girls mature ('cept for those two extra trannies, and to think I initially thought they were pretty cool - freaks, lol) and am so happy that you wound up pulling off the pound (and then some!).

The only thing, and you already responed to it earlier anyway, that I could even think of adding would have been to let them go just a little bit longer! However, I totally feel ya on the lease thing, and last day IS last day, and what was surprising was that on the dried product pics, for the most part the hairs look mature and whatnot whereas on the plant pics there seemed to be so much new growth and white hairs (as u also showed in one of the dried pix), I would have thought that this would have been more apparent in the final product.

Man, hands off to you though! I think it is so cool how you guys added the big T5 panel when you did and kept the thread "pure," as to create a really nice, what's the word I'm looking for, not guideline, but something that sets the bar - so we know if we are doing it right and what to expect, etc.. Props to you for doing that. Mad respect for a fellow 'Rodian doing his thing Hat's off again. (now I will really be watching the ST too!)

-SinSe

 

[TyChe]

Hows your tap water? You could easily use that if the PPM is low.

RO is great, do you have a RO system?

No matter the water, you'll be fine...

What nutrients? Just go Lucas Formula with any water.... you'll be stoked you kept it simple and then go from there!

Maxibloom is like $15 a bag and all you need is 1 Teaspoon per gallon from start to finish, thats it. It already has Calcium and Magnesium if you use RO.... but will work fine with tap water that isn't to hard.

So... What kinda nutes you got mang?

Actually I just aquired one. My dad gave it to me. He went into rehab and gave me most of his well all of his growing equipment. I have some much stuff. I might sell some but he has been growing for 35 or more years. So as you can imagine all of the stuff I have. Most of it for hydro and DWC. Its really cool. I will post pics soon. I just need to set everything up.

 

[TyChe]

Oh on the nutes thing Ill let you know. How bout tomorrow. I have to take an inventory. And set up. Grrrr so much work.

 

[leotriboo]

where those geneticts from ..

where those geneticts from ..

can i put my hands on some good blueberrys on seedboutique , how hard to grow is this berrys ,, please let me know

 

[MileHighGuy]

These were from a friend, a clone from a local dispensary. I loved it, and still have one flowering right now.

But, to be honest, my next seeds are going to be DJ Shorts True Blueberry on SeedBoutique

Can't wait for these. Check them out!

--->> True Blueberry Link


Expensive, but will be absolutely worth it. This is the strain that many of our favorites are crossed with.

 

[blueberrydrumz]

After smoking the blueberry for a little while now, and exclusively....

I must say, every single time I smoke I am productive and happy, almost to the point of laughter. No anxiety, very clear headed.... but then... wait..

You can keep stepping it up, as I add more I keep getting higher and higher and higher, If you haven't grown any blueberry yet please do so okay

Blueberry is the way forward... some great phenos out there, it wants to be topped & worked hard i have found, big bushy high yielding plants if you put in some work.. nice grow by the way... amazing whot the T5´s pulled off i just use em for veg peace

 

[Cruzin831]

Hey MileHigh.

Enjoyed reading up on your T5 grow. I am currently running a T5 with 6 4' 54w 6500k bulbs, with space for two more tubes. I am about down with veg and wanted you opinion on what bulbs I should use for flower and where to order them.
From what I have read, I was thinking of adding 4 2700k-3000K tubes for flower to add in some red light.
Thoughts and opinions?

Also, congrats on the lovely ladies. Im hoping mine turn out just as beautiful

 

[MileHighGuy]

Hi Cruzin! This grow is Old but I still use my T5's for Veg.

Whatever light you want to use will work fine for flower. I Think mixing some red spectrum is is a great idea but flowering with all blue bulbs is just fine.

Make sure to keep the canopy as even as possible bend and pinch any taller branches down to size and keep the lights close as you can all the way through. Try not to grow anything to tall, I would also keep the Bottom trimmed up and pick off fan leaves to get the maximum light penetration for those T5's.

Hope it all goes well!