12/12 From Seed: A Different Way To Grow

[Lord Doobie]

I'm beginning to think it's not worth the bother when you could veg for a short time, scrog, and come up smelling like a rose with a lot more than 27g...especially if you're using feminized seeds which aren't exactly cheep

 

[staceyadams]

Hey Doobie, thanks for your help! I appreciate it, but this is definitely the best route for me to go. I'd much rather fit 15 small plants with almost an ounce each into my tent than two or three larger plants with a smaller total yield. It's also a much more efficient way of finding a quality mother or two. I'm not using feminized seeds either, so the price tag wasn't a problem.

 

[staceyadams]

So does anybody have experience using the 44 oz cups from start to finish? I'd love to hear your thoughts!

 

[oldbootz]

use a coco / perlite mix to get large plants in small cups, with sat dom genetics

 

[the Rock]

have thunk(thai/haze x skunk) going 12/12 from seed as with veg period these just grew and grew before showing sex. They have been growing 7 weeks and are 14in tall and no sign of sex yet.
This is a superthread and thanks for all the great tips guys=ive been growing over 20 years and still learn new stuff almost every day!!!

 

[Ghostwolf]

Hey everyone! Recently I saw some threads where people who were growing 12/12 from seed started and finished their plants in 44oz cups. Their average yield was about 27g per plant. Has anyone else here had such success using such small containers? This sounds like it would be perfect for my setup! Thanks for any help you guys can offer!

I've used 44oz. foam cups and grew plants 4ft tall. Had seen photo's of others using 32oz. cup's so I thought how about 44oz. cup's. I wanted to give my girls as much root room as I could and at the same time put as many plants in my cab as I possibly could. my grow cab then was 6'x5'x1', I custom built the cab to fit in my bedroom, it was back when I was starting my first grow, and was using bag seed I had saved, the plants grew so well about 2 to 4 inches a day and smelled so good and skunky, I was way out in the woods so the smell didn't matter. The only problem was I didn't have enough light, I used 2x40w grow tubes, I should have had 4 tubes but I was trying to keep the electric usage down, and the plants didn't yield as much as they could, but it was a lighting problem and nothing to do with the cup's as I've used them many times with good success. I lived and learned, now I use CFL's. Anyway 44oz. cup's work great. Try it out.

 

[staceyadams]

Hey, Oldbootz and Ghostwolf! Thanks for the feedback! I'm definitely doing to use the 44 oz cups this run. Hopefully all goes well and I end up with a lovely harvest of some Double Strawberry Diesel. Mmmmmm...

 

[Ghostwolf]

Hey, Oldbootz and Ghostwolf! Thanks for the feedback! I'm definitely doing to use the 44 oz cups this run. Hopefully all goes well and I end up with a lovely harvest of some Double Strawberry Diesel. Mmmmmm...

No problem that's what we're all there for, to help each other.

 

[Lonesome Burt]

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[Trev]

howdy alll!
well im back after a 2year or so hiatus from indoor growing!


i started a batch of 15 seeds in jiffy peat discs. they are all now above the soil. 12/12 style!! (note: now 4 days of 12/12 for the sprouts.)

currently working my way through the 107 pages!!

4 x 26w CFLS in a stealth speaker cab. 13" x 16.5" x 25"


note: lights are fixed, but i stacked a couple dvds under my plants to get them closser to the lights, they are currently 2-3" from the lights.



pics to come!

 

[Wilson!]

Here's my Santa Maria 12/12 from seed. After the trim I put her in veg. I hope to be taking some clones from this one.

 

[nooob]

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[the Rock]

my 3 Thaze x skunk is 22" tall after 7 weeks of 12/12 from seed and still hasnt shown sex yet is this normal?

 

[Trev]

hmmm

hmmm

now that seems odd?! ^^^


are you sure it hasnt shown sex? look close!

 

[Wilson!]

Rock

At 7 weeks you should be in early-mid flower. 22 (or so) days usually to sex so you've gone 27 days past that. What nutes are you using? If your feeding/overfeeding veg nutes you could be stalling flower. Pictures always help.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[hilbie]

12/12 seems like a small waste of time, most peoples plants seem to take 85 days anyways, might as well just veg them 20 hour a day for two weeks then flip them, imo.

 

[oldbootz]

for a sat dom strain, give it less N to get quicker flowering going. Top up the N as needed but try to keep plants slightly pink stemmed and light green leaves.

this seems to break the sativa habit of delaying flowering for god knows how long. also to put the plant in 36 hours of darkness works wonders to kick start bud formation. if your sat dom plant is getting "clawing" on the smallest of the single blade leaves coming off the top cola's then you're giving it too much N.

rock i think its the thai in your genetics expressing itself. those plants take 2 lifetimes to grow and they can end up changing their minds half way through flower and start growing vertical again. perhaps you hit some recessive genes there?

 

[oldbootz]

12/12 seems like a small waste of time, most peoples plants seem to take 85 days anyways, might as well just veg them 20 hour a day for two weeks then flip them, imo.

if you put enough plants in there it will out yeild your 1 plant that you vegged for 2 weeks and mine will come out 2 weeks before yours.

i use this method because it works for my height restricted grow area and it saves time.

if you have 2 different grow areas with no height issues then a veg period is preferable.

 

[Lonesome Burt]

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[anonymousgrower]

12/12 seems like a small waste of time, most peoples plants seem to take 85 days anyways, might as well just veg them 20 hour a day for two weeks then flip them, imo.

I've never seen a plant bud as good as my girls I got going right now that started on 12/12.. The plants stayed somewhat short so the light penetration is great, and the strain I'm using has a ton of nodes; all of which are fattening up really quick.

this is my first indoor and I'm expecting at least an ounce per plant..

and 85 days? where'd you get that from.. My babies have been going for 45 days and they're almost done, 20 more days at most.

I'm doing it so I can run a perpetual grow with several varieties at once, in a single cabinet.

The problem with that is all strains will grow differently, and you can't exactly top a plant while it's in flower without losing a considerable amount of yield. keeping the canopy even is important.

If your goal is several strains I'd suggest vegging long enough to top / supercrop the taller strains.