12,000 Watt

[JUSTJR27]

I am a experinced grower that has been retired, but starting up again. This is what I'm working on.

40x12 Room

Strain - Nirvana Rasberry Cough
12 - 1,000 Watt Electronical Ballast
3 - Titan Helios 4 Light Controllers
2 - 24,000 BTU Mini Split A/C
1 - 20 Lb Co2 Tank
1 - Titan Co2 Regulator/Titan Co2 Montior
2 - Pedestal Fans
24 - 7 Gallon Smart Pots
Canna Coco Coir Media
House & Gardens Full Line

Layout:
Going to hand water them as necessaryI am going to put (2) 1,000 Watt light together and have 2 plants under the two lights.

Going to veg them for about 4/5 weeks while super cropping & fiming them during this time.

I am looking to get 1 lb per plant I think can get it but we would have to wait and see

I am currently in process of getting everything together

I will upload pics as some as I can

 

[Floridian]

I was able to pull 6-8 ounces off 5 gallon pots with 1K vertizontals and co2 but pulling a pound out of 7 gallon pots may be asking a bit much.I could be wrong though and often am!

 

[dansbuds]

7 gallons of coco is to much . it will stay wet longer & defeat the purpose of using coco to get multiple feeds for better growth . i use 3 gallons & easly get half pound plants from them . in your case 5 gallons would be plenty ! & if your going to do alot of training in veg i'd say 6 to 8 weeks is a better estimate for 1lb plants

but the rest sounds like a solid plan

 

[Lester Beans]

Have you grown Raspberry Cough before? If so can you describe it please?

Looks like you have a solid plan!

Good luck!

 

[JUSTJR27]

Lester

I have never grown it before but after reading reviews seems legit and heavy yielder so we will see.

I have grown Mango before and it was great I just wanted to change it up

 

[JUSTJR27]

7 gallons of coco is to much . it will stay wet longer & defeat the purpose of using coco to get multiple feeds for better growth . i use 3 gallons & easly get half pound plants from them . in your case 5 gallons would be plenty ! & if your going to do alot of training in veg i'd say 6 to 8 weeks is a better estimate for 1lb plants

but the rest sounds like a solid plan

Do you think that I should mix some hydroton into the coco to make it a little more drainable something like 25% I want the extra root space you feel me

 

[dansbuds]

its not really needed in my experiance ! i've added perilite & hydroton & its does help it drain faster , but coco drains very well all by itself & with plain coco you can reuse the same pots 3x before having to change out the coco .

 

[JUSTJR27]

its not really needed in my experiance ! i've added perilite & hydroton & its does help it drain faster , but coco drains very well all by itself & with plain coco you can reuse the same pots 3x before having to change out the coco .

I might get 10 gallons better just in case I have to veg a little longer better to be safe. I am going to add some perilite since its cheaper so it drains a little better I want to be able to feed every 2 days

 

[Feijao]

7 gallons of coco is to much . it will stay wet longer & defeat the purpose of using coco to get multiple feeds for better growth . i use 3 gallons & easly get half pound plants from them . in your case 5 gallons would be plenty ! & if your going to do alot of training in veg i'd say 6 to 8 weeks is a better estimate for 1lb plants
but the rest sounds like a solid plan

I have to agree with Dan here. I started running 10 gallon fabric pots and have reduced my way down to 3 now. Feeding the 3 gallon pots 8 times a day really gives them that hydroponic growth type of speed. The 10 gallons fed once every 2 days worked fine, a little better than soil, however for me the 3 gallon pots work much better.

Here is a dark dungeony image of 15 ounce plant in a 3 gallon fabric pot from my last grow.

 

[plutosmoke]

what dan said is right, you'll need a long veg period to fill up those 7 gal pots. If the pots aren't filled up by the time of flower, you'll have to do a lot of feed schedule readjusting during flower and that won't be beneficial in flower. but if you fill up those pots before flower and have the feeding dialed in(you will still have to do a slight increase in feeding frequency during flowering) then your using coco to its potential

 

[dansbuds]

I might get 10 gallons better just in case I have to veg a little longer better to be safe. I am going to add some perilite since its cheaper so it drains a little better I want to be able to feed every 2 days

for the benefit of coco & your plants you'll want to feed daily at least ! i like 3 feeds a day to get that exceptional growth you get from coco . otherwise you might just as well run 25 gallon pots of promix or soil .

 

[JUSTJR27]

I have to agree with Dan here. I started running 10 gallon fabric pots and have reduced my way down to 3 now. Feeding the 3 gallon pots 8 times a day really gives them that hydroponic growth type of speed. The 10 gallons fed once every 2 days worked fine, a little better than soil, however for me the 3 gallon pots work much better.

Here is a dark dungeony image of 15 ounce plant in a 3 gallon fabric pot from my last grow.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=42328&pictureid=1714447View Image

How long did you veg that plant for and under what lighting

 

[JUSTJR27]

for the benefit of coco & your plants you'll want to feed daily at least ! i like 3 feeds a day to get that exceptional growth you get from coco . otherwise you might just as well run 25 gallon pots of promix or soil .

So with that kinda feeds a day I'm going to have to set up a automated top feed drip system bc you already know I'm not going to be sitting around :-}

I am experienced with DTW I used to do it with Hydroton I liked it alot but didnt like that if your power or pump went out you were done if you didnt catch it on time you would be screwed

I just cant see vegging a plant for close to 2 months and then another 2 months flowering in a 3 gallon pot. When I first started growing I used to grow in 3 gallon pots and only vegged for like 3 weeks and by the time she was done she couldnt fit another rot in there

Lets say I use the 7 gallons and add hydroton so she drains really fast so kinda like hydro "Feeding Evereyday" but you still have some wiggle room if something happens to pump or power.

 

[Feijao]

How long did you veg that plant for and under what lighting

Took about a 10 days to clone, then I vegged the plant for 7 weeks under CMH315's. Sometimes I veg a little longer or shorter, just depends on how long I flower and how quick I can get the flower room ready to roll again. I understand that this is not the best way for many people to accomplish a grow. My state allows me only 4 plants in flower at a time so I really have to veg the shit out of them.

The plant was being hit by a 1000 Magnetic HPS in the front and by a Gavita 600se on the left hand side.

On a side note, I saw that you were going to use House and Garden nutes. Thats what I use in flower as well. However like most other things in garden I have reduced the products down to just Aqua Flakes and Bud XL in flower. I also use Mad Farmers MOAB for 2 weeks as well.

 

[JUSTJR27]

Took about a 10 days to clone, then I vegged the plant for 7 weeks under CMH315's. Sometimes I veg a little longer or shorter, just depends on how long I flower and how quick I can get the flower room ready to roll again. I understand that this is not the best way for many people to accomplish a grow. My state allows me only 4 plants in flower at a time so I really have to veg the shit out of them.

The plant was being hit by a 1000 Magnetic HPS in the front and by a Gavita 600se on the left hand side.

On a side note, I saw that you were going to use House and Garden nutes. Thats what I use in flower as well. However like most other things in garden I have reduced the products down to just Aqua Flakes and Bud XL in flower. I also use Mad Farmers MOAB for 2 weeks as well.

I love House & Garden there line is the shit and with Drip clean I dont have to flush my trees ever

Yeah thats why I only grow 24 in my state its still illegal but the punsihment is way down if you have less than 25

 

[JUSTJR27]

So now you guys thru a curve ball at me lol

So saw other grower running a Top Feed DTW system and he grows them in 7 gallon smart pots and mixes the coco with chuncky pertilite 60/40

So planning on doing that but what should my feed times be and will a 55 gallon rez be enough

 

[Feijao]

The stage of your plant and genetics will dictate how much and often you should feed. I think my pump was able to push about 5 gallons out per 90 seconds. So I would feed them 6 times a night for 30 seconds. So they were getting about 10 gallons a night for most all of the grow. They never really needed anymore feedings than this. However I am still trying to figure the best times and amount of times for my system.

I did use a 55 gallon brute trash can, it lasted about 5 days. I did upgrade to a 110 gallon Tuff Stuff tank this last time though. So now its about 10 days before refilling. Here is a link to the unit I purchased. If there is a Tractor Supply near you they almost always have these in stock. http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/tuff-stuff-products-heavy-duty-oval-tank-110-gal

I have never feed 24 plants so I am unsure of what type of pump you would need. Since you have mentioned concerns about pump failure you could use 3 1056 GPH pumps. One for each 8 plants. This way if there is a pump problem not all of your eggs are in one basket. With 7 gallon pots I could see you going through at least 20 to 30 gallons a day.

Lots to think about but 24 plants under 12,000 watts should bring a very nice return! Wish you the best!

 

[dansbuds]

So with that kinda feeds a day I'm going to have to set up a automated top feed drip system bc you already know I'm not going to be sitting around :-}

I am experienced with DTW I used to do it with Hydroton I liked it alot but didnt like that if your power or pump went out you were done if you didnt catch it on time you would be screwed

I just cant see vegging a plant for close to 2 months and then another 2 months flowering in a 3 gallon pot. When I first started growing I used to grow in 3 gallon pots and only vegged for like 3 weeks and by the time she was done she couldnt fit another rot in there

Lets say I use the 7 gallons and add hydroton so she drains really fast so kinda like hydro "Feeding Evereyday" but you still have some wiggle room if something happens to pump or power.

but thats where coco is superior , if the pump goes out for a day , coco will hold onto the water alot longer than hydroton ever would . if the coco dries out & you catch it before the plant starts to die , you can just recharge the coco with a couple good feeds .
the added perilite is going to make it so you have to feed more often , i still think your better off with straight coco .

 

[dansbuds]

The stage of your plant and genetics will dictate how much and often you should feed. I think my pump was able to push about 5 gallons out per 90 seconds. So I would feed them 6 times a night for 30 seconds. So they were getting about 10 gallons a night for most all of the grow. They never really needed anymore feedings than this. However I am still trying to figure the best times and amount of times for my system.

I did use a 55 gallon brute trash can, it lasted about 5 days. I did upgrade to a 110 gallon Tuff Stuff tank this last time though. So now its about 10 days before refilling. Here is a link to the unit I purchased. If there is a Tractor Supply near you they almost always have these in stock. http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/tuff-stuff-products-heavy-duty-oval-tank-110-gal

I have never feed 24 plants so I am unsure of what type of pump you would need. Since you have mentioned concerns about pump failure you could use 3 1056 GPH pumps. One for each 8 plants. This way if there is a pump problem not all of your eggs are in one basket. With 7 gallon pots I could see you going through at least 20 to 30 gallons a day.

Lots to think about but 24 plants under 12,000 watts should bring a very nice return! Wish you the best!

i use 396gph pumps in 55 gallon barrels to feed 12 plants . he could easily do it with 2 barrels & 2 pumps to feed all 24 . with the bigger plants & pots of coco , his feed duration would be longer & run the barrel down quicker than i would feeding 3 gallon pots . but its a simple easy set up to deal with .

how do you JUSTJR27 plan on dealing with the runoff ??? coco does NOT like to sit in its own runoff !! thats when salts build up in the coco .

i'm doing basically the same thing ..... 24 plants , but under half the lights you plan on using & in smaller pots on a smaller scale . my plants average from 4 to 8 oz's each .... strain dependant .

 

[Feijao]

Dan can you tell me if you are using drippers or open ended tubing or whatever to actually feed your plants. I have been using the 6 inch Hydro Flow - Rain Rings. In order to get a proper flow I had to increase my pump quite a bit past a 396.

Thanks in advance.