1000 Plant Commercial Grow

[dansbuds]

If you do this right , you don't need a seperate veg room at all ! just a mom room & a clone room & 4 flower rooms .

4 seperate flower rooms with 12K in each room . sealed with AC (mini spit ) , Dehuey & C02 in each room . each room is on a 120 day cycle , 50 days of veg & 70 days of flower .... 120 days per room . for perpetual you start each room one month apart , untill all 4 rooms are loaded & running (4 months ) . by then the first room is ready for Harvest (120 days ) & each room is harvested once every month & reloaded to start the cycle again .
it takes the 4 months to get it rolling , but once it is , its non stop , once a month you harvest & reload another room . & all you need to reload the rooms is healthy clones , no need to veg them out seperatly .

as far as plant count & medium ...... 4 plants with 50 days veg will be plenty per light . medium i'd do DTW coco in 3 gallon pots fed once or twice a day . you can reuse the same pots 3 times before finally chucking the coco & putting in new .

Thats my 2 cents worth & exactly the way i'd set it up

 

[greenhaus1927]

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Apology to the OP.

hvac guy, is there anyway I can contact you. I don't think I can pm anyone yet.

 

[hvac guy]

I sent you a PM.

 

[sourpuss]

If you do this right , you don't need a seperate veg room at all ! just a mom room & a clone room & 4 flower rooms .

4 seperate flower rooms with 12K in each room . sealed with AC (mini spit ) , Dehuey & C02 in each room . each room is on a 120 day cycle , 50 days of veg & 70 days of flower .... 120 days per room . for perpetual you start each room one month apart , untill all 4 rooms are loaded & running (4 months ) . by then the first room is ready for Harvest (120 days ) & each room is harvested once every month & reloaded to start the cycle again .
it takes the 4 months to get it rolling , but once it is , its non stop , once a month you harvest & reload another room . & all you need to reload the rooms is healthy clones , no need to veg them out seperatly .

as far as plant count & medium ...... 4 plants with 50 days veg will be plenty per light . medium i'd do DTW coco in 3 gallon pots fed once or twice a day . you can reuse the same pots 3 times before finally chucking the coco & putting in new .

Thats my 2 cents worth & exactly the way i'd set it up

Very smart

 

[DunHav`nFun]

If you do this right , you don't need a seperate veg room at all ! just a mom room & a clone room & 4 flower rooms .

4 seperate flower rooms with 12K in each room . sealed with AC (mini spit ) , Dehuey & C02 in each room . each room is on a 120 day cycle , 50 days of veg & 70 days of flower .... 120 days per room . for perpetual you start each room one month apart , untill all 4 rooms are loaded & running (4 months ) . by then the first room is ready for Harvest (120 days ) & each room is harvested once every month & reloaded to start the cycle again .
it takes the 4 months to get it rolling , but once it is , its non stop , once a month you harvest & reload another room . & all you need to reload the rooms is healthy clones , no need to veg them out seperatly .

as far as plant count & medium ...... 4 plants with 50 days veg will be plenty per light . medium i'd do DTW coco in 3 gallon pots fed once or twice a day . you can reuse the same pots 3 times before finally chucking the coco & putting in new .

Thats my 2 cents worth & exactly the way i'd set it up

Perpetual staggered plantings with staggered harveys is the ONLY wayta roll in a production minded business model growin dope...

Many ways ta do it with harveys comin as close as once a week if the rooms are available or built to do so , I`d say go look at RB26`s warehouse setup thread for pics and instant ideas from what he`s gotten done so far....

One could only hope to reproduce what he`s doing inside a warehouse with major investment in equipment and staggered harvests....anyways...

Good call Dans....but as far as the meeting Saturday night with investors goes , I know if it was me frontin the cash , I`d be expecting a fast turnaround with payback coming in once a month after all utilities and employees were paid to see exactly what type return on investment there actually is.....

Then expansion and growth occurs as each staggered room comes in at LEAST monthly to keep overhead paid ....anyways.....

Runnin a big show needs total dedication to lab clean conditions with Tyvek suits for folks to work the plants , as well as making sure IPM/integrated pest management is paramount in the daily routine....

My clone guys in SoCal been doin it right since mid-90`s with negative pressure clean rooms to change into and back out of the work suits....

Rootborn and all critters can ruin big show crops fast with NO return on investment , so there`s a lot to think about before jumpin headfirst into something never ventured before....regardless....

Perpetual FTW....Investors will be happy and all ducks fall into a row with new fresh product comin out to market on a consistent basis...

Good luck....DHF........

 

[usually]

I know if it was me frontin the cash , I`d be expecting a fast turnaround with payback coming in once a month after all utilities and employees were paid to see exactly what type return on investment there actually is.....

$1,200,000 season. whole sale.

$4,540,000 season. retail.

1.22613803231% difference in wholesale vs retail.
16,700% difference in wholesale vs retail.

 

[GrowerGoneWild]

OK, so plans are underway to open a facility big enough to successfully veg 500 & bloom 500 plants. My problem is I'm not sure how to scale up to that size of a grow. I need to figure how to bloom & veg 500 plants on a 100 day cycle making 3 harvest per yr. Resources are almost unlimited. Anyone out there have an inclination? I need a starting point.

Just for fun:

You're gonna need plant material.

I would start with 100 plants, I've seen plenty of cloners that will get you those in that number veg those for your mothers. Then get cuttings in a month. Take half of those original lot, and that will be your mothers, the other will be flowered. I'm pretty sure if you wanted to, you could get a bunch of orders together from different peeps and get more plants, Get you and a buddy with Medicards, and you can get 198 clones in one shot.

I would then get your harvest timing figured out, 3 crops a year is too far between, I'm of the opinion, of pulling down every 21-30 days. So its a perpetual harvest. Yes the harvest is smaller, but the wait times between waiting for product is better since you're always harvesting. I like it perpetuals, you could even do perpetual "rooms".
If need be.

Wk 1 100 clones. Veggin.
Wk 6 50 going into week 1 flower, 50 mothers. 100 cuts.
Wk 12 300 cuts, 100 more going into flower, Still maintain the 50 mothers... Might be a bit overkill for mothers, but always good to have extra cuts.

And so on..

I'm more or less for starting small, then install the lights, and alter the irrigation plan as you get more plants. Scale up as the greenhouse needs it. Then you can start hiring help to help with irrigation if you're not automated. Hell, I can irrigate 100+ plants pretty quickly. But in a commercial nursery/garden, they sometimes hire people just to irrigate, especially if you are going with numbers in the 1000+ plants.

All I gotta say in the years of me gypsy growing..

1)Get clones/ moms in there ASAP, and get lit. Get those plants outta yer house, or wherever and get growing, and you can free up space at your other garden for more clones/moms..

2)Keep it simple, work on complicated systems later. You can build around plants vegging. Dont delay. If you have to handwater coco or even blocks till the irrigation system gets built.. No big deal.

3)Plan so you dont by equipment twice, buy something now but make sure its compatible with future upgrades. It might be oversized now but make sure it wont be undersized later.

 

[Think Green]

I will definitely consider all of your input. thank you for the knowledge. I will keep this threaded updated as things progress.

 

[gotnoname]

for commercial grows many small rooms is too much work (harvesting, transplant, and cleaning, garbage) I would rather have 1 big crop every month or maximum 2. also to save on plant count it would be better to outsource the clone production (unless they dont count as plants).

 

[GrowerGoneWild]

Just a question, are you using a plant tracking system, METRC, BioTrack THC?.. Just to tag 1000 plants is 450 bucks.

And the RFID readers, subscription... etc.

 

[dav33]

Money coming back quick always makes investors happy. Talk to your hydro store see if they can they throw in something for you, thats one pretty expensive list. Good luck buddy

 

[Tonygreen]

100 gavitas 1 plant for every 4 lights in 65 gallon smart pots.... ah nevermind im just high ha!

Good luck dude. Don't forget to have a budget for redundancy, repairs, faulty equipment etc.
An extra AC on the side ready to go wouldnt hurt I reckon. Dont cheap out on yer wiring costs ha!

 

[Think Green]

Things are moving. The investor is all in. Had to make a decision to change location due to some new county laws that go into effect in nov.

 

[GrowerGoneWild]

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My Client's 1000+ plant grow. Yes I know its just a warehouse wating on construction crews and inspection before he can put plants in there.. a real kick in the dick.. loosing 10 weeks of veg time. Has to be done off site.

 

[MikeGreat]

Very interesting thread! Any updates....

 

[Lazyman]

Man, do you have any idea how much the capital outlay on 35-40 huge LED fixtures is?

Also, you'll find that in large operations, the dry heat output of HPS works well in air cooled rooms to keep RH down, and intake/exhaust fans cycling. No heat, no fans running, too cold, too humid.

I concur with the perpetual gardens, it allows you to run a much smaller veg room than otherwise needed, and it should never be empty. I have a 3 x 10 light (DE) flowering rooms on a 5 light veg room, pull 17 to 20 pounds every 3 weeks and start over. It's also way easier to find around 180 clones at a go than it is to find 600 of the same cut. If you make a mistake and fuck up a crop, it's a small portion and not the whole thing.

 

[Picarus]

No offense, but how did you get an investment without having this already figured out? Growing pains will kill you when someone is expecting returns. My advise is have back ups of crucial equipment. Extra fixtures, a/c parts and motors, and hard to replace parts for your panels. You can not afford downtime if something goes wrong. Oh yeah get a generator too. Best of luck! Get ready for your hairline to starting leaping backwards.

 

[ExoticsRus]

Like poster above stated , how did you get this position when you have not studied what you even need or seem even preventive on if things have issues , which things happen over time obviously (which is so important in growing )

I would just start being proactive and learn to grow smart with this partner before both of you guys become enemies or in jail ( not dissing , warning more or less )

Grow 100 first time , most growers dream of that LOL , plus if you mess up on this round it won't bust your balls as bad (beta test )

 

[mack 10]

Just a question, are you using a plant tracking system, METRC, BioTrack THC?.. Just to tag 1000 plants is 450 bucks.

And the RFID readers, subscription... etc.

Lots of hidden costs in this game. Good luck though.

 

[reppin2c]

Wouldn't have 2 bloom rooms on the flop with plants entering at staggered time be easier building a bunch of rooms or am I missing something?