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SMALL HITS ARE BETTER THAN BIG ONES!

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Truthman

I come to find that if I take hits from a small bowl with basically .12 grams accompanied with a huge amount of air gets me more blazed than puffing it all at once. I also find hardly any smoke comes out upon exhale, if any

The drawback is that you keep puffing BUT its way better this way.

I think it has to do with the air "cutting" the smoke particulates into smaller sizes, which enhance absorption in the lungs.

This would probably wonderful for vaporizers and/or mouth smoking.

I wonder if this is one of the reasons why vaporizers are known to get you higher because when you think about it, the vaporizer eliminates a lot of particulate matter which means it would be much easier to diffuse into the air which means better lung or mouth absorption!. Peace.
 
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trouble

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I really dont know the answer to this riddle or the answer is beyond my reach. However, I do think everyone should remember to rape & pillage before burning the village.
 
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Feyd

Feyd

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You could always rape and pillage AS you burn the village.
Just be quick.

And on topic, I enjoy smaller hits then big huge rips.
I got nothin to prove, and I usually smoke alone :D

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ourcee

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bhahaha "before burning the villiage"


I too have noticed this Truthman

I actually have taught many a stoner buddy (or fourteen? lol who knows) about this lil trick

I believe what I read somewhere, is that the avioles (sp?) of your lungs are how the THC is absorbed into your bloodstream. Once the smoke enters the lungs, the avioles are coated and the THC starts to get absorbed, no more thc can enter thru an aviole thats already been hit with the smoke, therefore holding hits does nothing but leave more tar in your lungs

this is all saying this is true mind you :biglaugh:

so it would make sense in saying that a "half hit" (what I call it with all my friends) followed up by a half hit of just fresh air, would circulate a smaller amount of smoke around and cover the same number of avioles...

edit: so basically the same size inhalation, just 1/2 as much smoke

higher off less weed.

sure it might take a few more tokes, but shit, I LOVE smoking, and I bet YOU do too :biglaugh:



ps if I'm wrong or mis informed, please do tell, thats just what I've come to notice in my personal sesh's and have read over the years
 
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thcbound

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Yes I would recommend a vaporizer for the following reasons:

1. You aren't inhaling smoke and the over 200 chemicals found in it beside THC
2. You use less herb to achieve same effects
3. Vapor tastes superior to smoke

I got myself a Volcano back in late 2005 and now I only smoke when I'm at parties. If you believe "less is more", you should go with a vape for sure.
 
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Yeah I think it makes sense to say that smaller hits (mixed with some air) can be absorbed by the lungs better than 1 big hit all at once.
 
DickAnubis

DickAnubis

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Yes, I agree.
Particulate cannot infuse into the blood if it is too big. What is in the air mix with the THC only becomes a clogging agent and is exhaled out. If you rip a huge hit you must expel that much more matter. If you don't it settle in the lung tissue and well blocks off the air sacks. If it irritates the tissue scar tissue grows over the area sealing off those air sacks for good. seal enough over. You die of fibrosis.My grandfather died of this from inhaling fine foundry sand at work for thirty years. Silicosis.

Now most fine particulate in smoke will eventually dissolve, go into the blood stream, some gets excreted in various ways, some doesn't.

Small tokes with lots of air infuses the thc into the blood easier simply because there's more air (gas) less particulate (ash) and its accompanying chems.

Vapor is even better because like THCBOUND states, most of the chems get left behind if you vape at the correct temp to gasify the THC. Of course even in vape you get some other chems that gas at close temp to THC. Ideal temp is 300-310F.
There aren't many studies of the output of a vaporizer but the ones that exist point to less chems being picked up with the THC. Unlike burning the plant matter at 450f and above. Most matches and lighters (butane) cook at 900f plus and therefore breakdown most of the chems and metals present in mj and tobacco.

SO Vape is the way.
BUT Vape STILL can cause a drying out of the mouth which can lead to gum disease. This matters when you pass thirty five or so years of age. I make sure I thorough rinse and clean my mouth a few times a day using hydrogen peroxide. I also gently brush my teeth to stimulate my gum tissue surface which stimulates blood flow beneath the surface and carries off any residual chems and matter.

As far as getting higher, I'm not sure. Vape is a different high for me. More like eating cannabutter than smoking. You without doubt use less weed, especially if you have a vaporizer that you can remove the tray or disk from.

PEACE DA
 
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in my testing i have found if you roll joints and smoke them all day...you stay pretty baked lol...thats the only reason i grow besides my love for the plant i go through a zip a week and i couldnt afford to buy that...so i grow more than i need so i never run out...the funny part i do run out sometimes...really sucks
 
budvapor

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DickAnubis said:
BUT Vape can cause a drying out of the mouth which can lead to gum disease. This matters when you pass thirty five or so years of age. I make sure I thorough rinse and clean my mouth a few times a day using hydrogen peroxide. I also gently brush my teeth to stimulate my gum tissue surface which stimulates blood flow beneath the surface and carries off any residual chems and matter.
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now that's really interesting! i couldn't find any pointers on that. could you elaborate on where this comes from? any studies? i thought it would be the opposite, that smoke would be bad not just for your lungs but for your mouth, gums, throat, etc. as well...?
 
DickAnubis

DickAnubis

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YES BUDVAPOR you are correct that smoke is Godawful on the gums, cheeks, mucus membrane, throat, lungs, vocal cords, everything it contacts. It not only dries the tissue but it lacks Oxygen or has little as well as contaminants that are not kind to us. I did not mean to imply that only vape was a problem. It is a much less problem because the heat is lower and the contaminants are fewer. I have edited my post to include the word STILL. Thank you.

Any hot moistureless air will damage the gums in a similar way that dry conditions cause the cuticle around the base of fingernails to dry and crack and mucus membranes to shrink and become open to irritants and infection. The base of the gum where it meets the tooth is susceptible to this. There are places in the mouth that normally don't receive any oxygen, mostly where the cheek joins along the jawline. Aridity complicates it.

Now it's not as if once a person vapes their done for anymore than smoking a single cig will be much trouble. But it is wise to take precautions especially as we age.

There are a number of extracts in the NEJM and JAMA that discuss gum disease. My dentist showed me a study of desert dwelling populations that suffer from gum disease complicated by dry conditions. I'm not sure what journal, I'll find out and post it.
More importantly one needs to monitor one's oral health. I had begun to notice a withdrawal of tissue along my gum line. About three mm. It alerted me and with the help of my dentist we determined that I was suffering from mild gum disease. He suggested the peroxide to increase oxygenation and mild massage to stimulate blood flow. After about three months there was no further withdrawal and the healthy pink of my gums returned. I also use a Xylitol based tooth paste that helps fight off gingivitas and plaque. Xylitol is a sugar that actually helps strengthen your tooth enamel and ward of deterioration.

PEACE DA
 
budvapor

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DickAnubis said:
YES BUDVAPOR you are correct that smoke is Godawful on the gums, cheeks, mucus membrane, throat, lungs, vocal cords, everything it contacts. It not only dries the tissue but it lacks Oxygen or has little as well as contaminants that are not kind to us. I did not mean to imply that only vape was a problem. It is a much less problem because the heat is lower and the contaminants are fewer. I have edited my post to include the word STILL. Thank you.
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No, thank YOU! It's really useful to me because I have actually started to have gum disease myself, and I've been researching the topic a bit. I wish I had a good dentist I could trust. Because of the sorry state of Health Care in the US, especially because of that disgusting health insurance business, I've had to change dentists several times. I'm seeing a new one on Wed. I hope he's better than the last one... So again THANKS!!

I know that was off topic, but I'm too new to PM... sorry Truthman!

I do agree on the small hits thing though. What I also like about smaller hits is the slower "coming up", and even more the slower "coming down"! i hate all of the sudden losing my buzz quickly...

peace!
 
bounty29

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When my friend taught me to smoke he made it very clear to leave enough space in your lungs to get a good breath of air after your hit, and I think this has been the most valuable piece of information he passed. This makes it so smoke doesn't stay in your mouth or on your way to your lungs and get wasted, and allows the smoke to circulate better once in the lungs.

A lot of the times when I smoke with people and they don't get high, and I'm ripped, I'll watch and this is one of the most common things that people don't do, and it really makes a difference.
 
RevolutionX

RevolutionX

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I agree wit ya bounty29, i always take a second puff of air after the hit. It helps get it in the lungs deeper and kinda makes ya dizzy if ya stand up tight away. I luv feelin zoned
 
Sheriff Bart

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i take in air after every hit, have been for sometimes and thats why i am a pipe man. and you gotta love killin hits. i do at least. you can get baked after like 3 tokes like that with some fine nugs.
 
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trem0lo

I usually take a quick hit of "plain" air after a hit on the pipe, in the same breath. Trick is to do it with an open throat, like you're breathing through a toilet-paper tube (or something similar). It feels good and seems to make the hits more effective because the smoke goes deeper into your lungs.
 
tngreen

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what? i seem to misunderstand your post you are supposed to inhale air after a decent sized hit to keep the smoke from sitting in your throat which can usually trigger the cough. i hate coughing. whatever allows you to get the cleanest hit possible is the best method.
 
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This is cool Truthman. I used to do this with cigarettes. I would take a small hit, then inhale...and keep inhaling the air...until I could feel that hot mix of tobacco smoke pass my throat and top lungs and go deeper. I'm not sure why, but once I inhaled enough air and really got that packet of smoke inside of me the hotness/burning sensation stopped... so I always made sure to take my hits that way.

I haven't smoked herb in so long, but you make me want to just go smoke a cigarette to try this out again, its kinda fun.

Truthman... how would you use this technique with mouth-smoking, can you explain that a little more??
 
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Truthman

Indicad2006 said:
Truthman... how would you use this technique with mouth-smoking, can you explain that a little more??
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I would take a small amount of smoke then just inhale a good amount of air into my mouth and just let it sit there for 30 seconds and then blow it out.

I know when I did this method a few times with just air and no smoke, I felt a little oxygen buzz for a few seconds so it's not just a placebo effect.

Your mouth would get dry so I would advise some liquid to have around, preferably tea or green tea(real tea not lipton) to make sure the breath doesn't stink and no problems in the mouth with the smoke sitting there because the antioxdants in tea prevent free radical damage. Peace.
 
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