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Burglary suspect dies after being taped to tree by 68yr old homeowner

Stoner4Life

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I know how much we all detest thieves so I'm pleased to bring you this. A Miami Herald article (by Peter Holley/Washington Post) which turns out to be a tasty tidbit to chew on. :)

Nathanial Johnson had grown tired of the burglaries at his mobile home in the small town of Leroy, Alabama, about 60 miles north of Mobile.

So the 68-year-old decided to take matters into his own hands on Friday night by springing a trap, Washington County Sheriff Richard Stringer told Fox affiliate WALA.

In an attempt to make it look like nobody was home, Johnson parked his vehicle at a neighbor’s home and returned to his abode and waited, according to Al.com.

Sitting near his back door, Johnson told police, he turned the lights off and placed a car mirror near a window so he could see what was happening outside, according to WALA.

Johnson told authorities that someone knocked on his front door before midnight, Al.com reported. Johnson didn’t answer and continued to wait as he heard the person move to the back door and break the lock, Al.com reported.

Johnson told police that he confronted the person, prompting the suspected burglar to fall or jump off the back steps, Al.com reported.

Johnson subdued the man once he was on the ground and tied his hands behind his back, police told Al.com. The man was later identified as 31-year-old Cleveland Jones Gully.

Police said that after restraining Gully’s hands, Johnson placed duct tape over his mouth and tied the man to a tree using rudimentary materials - electrical wire, rope from a clothesline and masking tape.

“He began to tie him to the tree still in the standing up position,” Stringer told WALA, noting that Johnson used “multiple layers of masking tape that he had wrapped around his mouth and all the way around his head.”

With the alleged intruder tied to a tree, Johnson told police, he returned to his neighbor’s house to alert police.

Gully “was still alive at that point, and there was no indication that he was dying,” Stringer told Al.com.

But when sheriff’s deputies arrived at Johnson’s home 10 minutes later, Stringer said, Gully was dead.

“I don’t think he was intending to kill the intruder,” Stringer told WALA. “I think he wanted to capture him and have him arrested.”

Stringer told AL.com that Gully - who lives nearby and had a reputation for breaking into homes - had cuts around his body from the wire used to tie him up but no other visible injuries. Johnson wasn’t armed with a weapon at the time, Stringer said.

Johnson’s niece, Simone Johnson, told WALA that Gully’s death has left many people in pain.

“He doesn’t bother anybody,” she said, referring to her uncle. “He’ll help you if you need helping, so the family just hates what happened. I know the other guy. His family is hurting too, but we are also and we hate that, and I hope that we can just get this resolved soon.”

The alleged intruder’s uncle, Michael Gully, told WALA that he was shocked by the allegations leveled against his relative.

“I was surprised that it happened,” he said. “He just wasn’t a violent person that I know of.”

Stringer told WALA that Johnson isn’t facing criminal charges while authorities await the results of an autopsy that will determine the cause of Gully’s death.

Police did hold him in custody for 72 hours, the station reported.

“We will probably present it to the grand jury to see what they say about it,” he added.




oh well Cleve, you reap what you sow.......
 

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he must have suffocated.no sympathy from me.he must of been a tough old guy to subbdue a a guy more than half his age
 

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Oops. What a tragedy.

Some guy tried to break into my house in San Leandro in 2012 when my girlfriend was home. He was lucky I wasn't home at the time.
 

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im pretty sure ive heard similar stories when the homeowner waited to shoot there gun and ended up premeditated murder in 1rst degree.im not saying they ended up being convicted but this is a serious subject.just saying.laws are so sketchy these days i have to really step my law game up so i dont go to jail for jay walking! glad ole boy is not in jail
 

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im pretty sure ive heard similar stories when the homeowner waited to shoot there gun and ended up premeditated murder in 1rst degree.im not saying they ended up being convicted but this is a serious subject.just saying.laws are so sketchy these days i have to really step my law game up so i dont go to jail for jay walking! glad ole boy is not in jail

the latest one that I'm aware of was several years ago in Little Falls MN. this guy had been broken into several times and was tired of it, so he parked his truck off his property and waited them out, two teenage kids that had boosted his crib before returned, he shot & killed them both, rather brutally finishing off the girl w/a final shot to the head as she lay moaning; all of this including this madman's own narrative was captured on a tape he had running, a tape that he'd hoped would clear him.

 

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the latest one that I'm aware of was several years ago in Little Falls MN. this guy had been broken into several times and was tired of it, so he parked his truck off his property and waited them out, two teenage kids that had boosted his crib before returned, he shot & killed them both, rather brutally finishing off the girl w/a final shot to the head as she lay moaning; all of this including this madman's own narrative was captured on a tape he had running, a tape that he'd hoped would clear him.

Not sure how I'd voted on this jury. Premeditated self defense?

moral of this story? Don't break into the old crazy mans house.
 

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well, yeah i think they were white.i can understand where the old guy was coming from but putting a bullet through a teen girls head execution style just doesnt seem right to me.i guessshe was dying anyway but if i remember right,the recording was pretty brutal.saying your gonna die bitch or something like that
 

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here in England we have seemed to have adopted the word "home invasion" from the US and quite a few homeowners and shop owners have walked away from court after killing the burgler/home invader,,,,,
in your own home or property and defending your loved ones then the intruder is going down!,,,,
" drummers" or burglers/home invaders [residential propertys] would be shown no mercy whatsoever if i caught them in my home,,
 

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Didn't some farmer lose everything and get jail time for fillin some thieves with fine shot awhile back?
 

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Didn't some farmer lose everything and get jail time for fillin some thieves with fine shot awhile back?
yes paladin,,,,,a farmer from Norfolk Tony Martin i think,,,,
he would have "walked" but he shot the home invader in the back whilst he was running away! and killed him,,,,,,
face to face and he would not have done any jail time i would think,,,S2
 
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At some point people have to be responsible for their own actions...

Break into someones home.... well...stupid should hurt.

Having known a sweet old lady who was murdered in her home during a break-in a few years ago by 2 "teenagers" I don't have much sympathy...

Oh they got a slap on the wrist and are currently free.... Can only hold them till they are 18 and their lawyer played the troubled 16yr old youth BS.

All she ever wanted to do was help people, and spend time with her chickens....and they beat her to death along with the other person who lived on the property...

Chased her in her own house house like a dog, busted down the door to her bedroom where she was hiding, and beat her to death....so do i have sympathy for ANYONE who breaks into anyone else's property and gets killed...NOPE.... cause if they weren't breaking into someones house they would still be ALIVE...UNLIKE my friend.
 

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yeah well people have to understand how castle laws work.it varies state by state.hell i dont even know how they work.normally you cant just kill some teen who breaks into your house.if i agryhesesee with it is not the issue.i like to be able to defend myself if need be.but legally that is not the case.its cause of these old fuckers that wanna keep there shotgun on the porch and shoot kids who come on there property cause they lost there baseball.dont say it never happens cause ive seen it.i respect gun rights.but just cause you have a gun doesnt mean you have the right to shoot someone just cause they stepped on your propety.get the fuck outta here with that shit.if they threaten you then blow there ass away.i do agree with that,but otherwise get the fuck outta here with that shit.unless its a home invasion nobody has any right to kill someone.give me an example when its justified otherwise?and no killing your animals dont count.thats an obvious death sentence
 

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the latest one that I'm aware of was several years ago in Little Falls MN. this guy had been broken into several times and was tired of it, so he parked his truck off his property and waited them out, two teenage kids that had boosted his crib before returned, he shot & killed them both, rather brutally finishing off the girl w/a final shot to the head as she lay moaning; all of this including this madman's own narrative was captured on a tape he had running, a tape that he'd hoped would clear him.


Yes,I read the story and thought the man should go free.

It was thanksgiving day and the owner told his brother,family that he couldn't go to the dinner.The owner's house was broken into 5 times and gold,guns were stolen each time,last one was $5,000 worth of gold and 2 handguns.The Owner is now left with just a shotgun.The Owner went to the basement downstairs and waited.The guy came down first and was killed.The girl came downstairs and was shot later killed when she was alive.Maybe it was a reflex? or agonal breathing? ...The Owner finally got the burglars and sat down in the chair for 8 hours.Then called the police.They arrested him and found him guilty.I think the sentence is B.S and the town is an stupid place to be in.Everyone must be brain dead over there.
 

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Yes,I read the story and thought the man should go free.

It was thanksgiving day and the owner told his brother,family that he couldn't go to the dinner.The owner's house was broken into 5 times and gold,guns were stolen each time,last one was $5,000 worth of gold and 2 handguns.The Owner is now left with just a shotgun.The Owner went to the basement downstairs and waited.The guy came down first and was killed.The girl came downstairs and was shot later killed when she was alive.Maybe it was a reflex? or agonal breathing? ...The Owner finally got the burglars and sat down in the chair for 8 hours.Then called the police.They arrested him and found him guilty.I think the sentence is B.S and the town is an stupid place to be in.Everyone must be brain dead over there.


the prosecutor was the true fuck in this matter. the town was equally divided with very many residents supporting him during this ordeal, you can just about be sure that the residents siding against him probably had kids/classmates in the same school district. His lawyer should have loaded the jury with elderly people as they might feel his angst and sympathized in at least reducing the charge down to some sort of manslaughter or a not guilty verdict.

Here's a YouTube link to his tape recorded rant:
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Being a resident of MN this was big news & I've heard that recording (& the long version) several times before. He baited those kids to break in & then lay in wait for them, because they stole guns in previous break ins I can NOT find him at fault at all, he had no idea if either one of them was going to pull a gun from behind their backs and use it on him.

btw, I've got one of these for uninvited guests.

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I hope the sight of it makes them run 'cause they're gonna hate its bark.......
 
I agree things have got to change. I am trying to make a small change in Colorado.

Back in 98 or 99 i caught several punks trying to spray paint my garage (the gang bangers do this to id houses for hits, burglaries, other members to avoid etc.) with their tags. I crept up as quietly as possible and set a sword blade just under one's chin...The other 2 were gone before i could see what they were doing.
I take this punk and put him on his knees with his hands behind his head as we await the cops.
The stupid cops pull their guns on me and give me 32 different types of hell. They threatened me with kid-napping charges at one point...I got so mad i did something very dumb...I said go ahead...as soon as i get out i will hunt you and your whole family.
NEVER say anything even remotely close to that to a cop unless you can go crazy enough to convince them you would be found innocent by insanity. That was the ONLY thing that saved my behind.
But yeah, the cops get annoyed when you make them look stupid...count on reprisals from them.
OR, start grass roots programs to initiate laws that further bind them to be the People's police and not the Corporations' police.
w.
 
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