Testing the Bio2 CO2 producing bucket

CoCoSativas · Mar 25, 2015

So im testing a product for the growstore. I post a thread and in exchange they have given me the kit which includes the bucket and 3 weeks of yeast stuff (its blue, im sure theres more than yeast)
as well as an aditional 5 weeks of stuff. I test and post, when im done i get to keep the bucket for future use. Thanks guys. Honestly this store has been the best ive dealt with, and ive been in more than a few.

Also they have provided a co2 detector that measures ppm. That will be helpful for the test.

So in the pic you can see the sticky thermometer on the side. This saves me from having to dip my hanna pen in the yeast. Again thanks to my friends at the store.

You can see the blue yeast mix deal. The pic was after i added the sugar, its still swirling from when i mixed.

Theres also a pic of the bucket in the tent by my plants. 5 Feminized seed plants, one regular. The regular seed plant is probably a male its twice the size of the rest, super vigourous. Id laugh if its a girl. My nepali skunk cross.

This thread is for my test of the co2 bucket. I also have a thread running in the coco section with the full details of the grow. Its going to be a 600 watt multi strain grow, grown in coco with gh flora series. Bulb hortilux super hps, gavita digistar (the older version)

Lets hope the co2 helps to give me a monster yield. This thread will specifically be about my impression of this system and my impression of growth and yield.

I could try measuring height and other details but im going to focus on dry yield with this run. I want to see what a co2 enhanced tent can do for me. Im really hoping for the best, this grow is forpersonal smoke. I want lots of buds.

CoCoSativas · Mar 25, 2015

The bucket also comes with a little indicator to show its working. A little bubble moniter.

The guy at the hydro shop gave me some tape to seal the bucket better. Now the indicator bubbles well.

Id like to hear any comments anyones had brewing co2 in a tent. How did everyone find it?

OranguTrump · Mar 25, 2015

Lucky - I've never augmented with CO2, but setting up a bucket with yeast, sugar, etc. does seem to be an easy/cheap way.

Nice of the shop to set you up like this, good luck with it - I'm going to watch this

CoCoSativas · Mar 25, 2015

This thread will be a more too the point than the otherone. The other one will talk about everything grow related, and even just things growingwise im thinking of. It will get too cluttered up to really demonstrate just the bucket properly.

Basically what you described is what this is. Dj Short talks about it in his book (a must have in my opinion)

Its a great idea. My plants are loving it

CoCoSativas · Mar 25, 2015

OranguTrump said:
Lucky - I've never augmented with CO2, but setting up a bucket with yeast, sugar, etc. does seem to be an easy/cheap way.

Nice of the shop to set you up like this, good luck with it - I'm going to watch this

Yeah they are great guys. This test benefits both of us, it helps me and it gives a live test of the bucket for people to check out. Everybody wins. Im always happy to check out new things, and co2 is something ive always wanted to add to my rooms.

I have a 600 watt lamp in a square meter tent with 5 garenteed female plants, maybe a 6th, im not sure as one of the seeds was a regular seed, not feminized like the rest.

Anyone want to guess how much i will yield? if i get more than a pound i will be very happy. Ill be smiling for about a year. Ill be excited to see the scale when this is all done. Ill keep everybody up to speed throughout the grow

CoCoSativas · Mar 26, 2015

Cannabis plants before co2 augmentation and then a picture taken 3 days later. The co2 is over 3000 ppm at the moment, so the meter isn't even reading that right now, it just says high. They are very happy

stoned-trout · Mar 26, 2015

I used to vent my fermenting stuff into a grow...never noticed a difference like my co2 setups do...yeehaw... I would tap into the airlock and feed it to behind oscillating fan ....even if it didn't help the plants much it provided alcoholic beverages for me ....lol...I tried every redneck way to produce co2 before buying a generator and a bottled setup both...even tried vinegar and baking soda on a drip..

Seaf0ur · Mar 26, 2015

I think whether or not CO2 is required really boils to environment. The outdoor air in most locations contains down to about 380 parts per million carbon dioxide. People exhale carbon dioxide... the average adult’s breath contains about 35,000 to 50,000 ppm of CO2 which is 100 times higher than outdoor air... hence the myth about "talking" to plants... you're really just breathing around them.

On average there is a 2,050 ppm CO2 differential between an indoor habituated area as compared to outside.

Measuring Carbon Dioxide Inside Buildings - Washington State University

CoCoSativas · Mar 26, 2015

The inside air in my place is around 600 ppm to start. Now it is substantially higher in the tent.

I guess for the sake of the test I better see what the rooms ppm is, outside of the tent. I think I'll wait a couple days and put together a bunch of data for a major update.

onavelzy · Mar 26, 2015

The plants look like they're doing great.

I have a bunch of questions about the grow, hope you don't mind.

How big is your space, roughly? it's a tent, right?

What are you using for ventilation, humidity and temp control?

what temps and humidity do you try to get?

is this a sealed grow space? if so, what system are you using to adjust the air flow?

couldn't tell for sure but in the one pic, it looks like the outlet for the CO2 is on the ground. Is that where you keep it?

You may be getting artificially high CO2 levels if that's where your monitor is too. Introduced CO2 will tend to sink or settle, kind of like the fog from putting dry ice in water might do. It eventually evens out throughout the rest of the space. but your monitor may be reading levels much higher than what your plants' leaves are able to get.

checking the readings outdoors and in non-grow areas of the building are a good simple way of checking on the monitor's accuracy and reliability. the readings should be near 400ppm. might be useful to check the levels at different heights in the grow area too. If the outlet is at floor level, iId bet theCO2 levels are way higher than they are at the level of the lights or at the canopy level.

thanks for any details you can provide. I was looking into a similar product a while back but it supposedly lasted for months. I'll have to find that thread.

Edit: found it

CoCoSativas · Mar 26, 2015

onavelzy said:
The plants look like they're doing great.

I have a bunch of questions about the grow, hope you don't mind.

How big is your space, roughly? it's a tent, right?

What are you using for ventilation, humidity and temp control?

what temps and humidity do you try to get?

is this a sealed grow space? if so, what system are you using to adjust the air flow?

couldn't tell for sure but in the one pic, it looks like the outlet for the CO2 is on the ground. Is that where you keep it?

You may be getting artificially high CO2 levels if that's where your monitor is too. Introduced CO2 will tend to sink or settle, kind of like the fog from putting dry ice in water might do. It eventually evens out throughout the rest of the space. but your monitor may be reading levels much higher than what your plants' leaves are able to get.

checking the readings outdoors and in non-grow areas of the building are a good simple way of checking on the monitor's accuracy and reliability. the readings should be near 400ppm. might be useful to check the levels at different heights in the grow area too. If the outlet is at floor level, iId bet theCO2 levels are way higher than they are at the level of the lights or at the canopy level.

thanks for any details you can provide. I was looking into a similar product a while back but it supposedly lasted for months. I'll have to find that thread.

Edit: found it

I might sound a little crazy, but I'm not running any ventilation right now, just have the socks open for passive air flow. The rooms window is open also bringing in fresh air as well. Im not really trying to regulate anything, the temp and humidity stay in a good range at all times naturally right now. The green light indicator for ideal environment conditions is constantly lit up.
So I'm not worried. They seem to be growing really quick.

Right now they are in 1 gal growing in pure coco, in a 4 x 4 tent. Lamp is a 200 Watt cal for veg, 600 hps for flower.

The outlet is the bucket itself and a little bubble monitor on the top of it. Yes its on the floor now as I have extra space. When I go to flower and transplant into 3 gal bags, I'll likely move it outside the tent and use the long tube the kit came with the bring it in through one of the socks. Until then I'll leave it as is.

I'll place the co2 sniffer on the level the plants are so we get an accurate reading

onavelzy · Mar 26, 2015

Ok, thx. Good luck with the grow. How are you figuring out the effect that the CO2 has? comparing the yield this time to prior grows?

CoCoSativas · Mar 26, 2015

Not really, as I used to grow organic, so I can't really compare coco with hydro nutrients to that. I'm more testing to see if I can reach an above average yield.

CoCoSativas · Mar 26, 2015

Here is a picture now that the bucket is in the back, and the tent has been open for 30 minutes. The ppm is still pretty good

I have seen explosive branch growth and height growth since the start of this test. The branches and overall height is growing rapidly.

The picture of the single plant is a cross I made, its a Nepali x skunk. Its branching very well, it's very vigorous. I believe it's a male. That would make me happy I'm kinda short on my original f1 seeds, and should make more.

CoCoSativas · Mar 26, 2015

Here is everyone from a top view.

They are so healthy and such a pretty colour. Gh flora is some great stuff, no wonder it's one of the most used worldwide

CoCoSativas · Mar 27, 2015

So I went out for dinner at the inlaws, came back to check the tent co2 reading now that it had been closed.

So I am very pleased with the big bucket. I think everyone who owns a tent should add co2 the plants are loving it

CoCoSativas · Mar 28, 2015

The bio2 is still doing pretty good. Started Monday, and still going Saturday. It is tapering c off though, when I opened the tent this morning ppm was 2250. Still great, but less than before.

I'm very happy to have this opportunity to use co2 in the tent.

OranguTrump · Mar 28, 2015

I was under the impression that CO2 did more during flowering, but it makes sense you'd see benefits during veg time, too.

Hopefully there's still some oomph left around the time you kick into 12/12, and we can see the improvement it brings.

StoneyK · Mar 28, 2015

Your never gonna keep that co2 in that tent, gonna cost yourself a fortune tryin to keep levels up, I have a full blown regulator and controller an id go thru a 50lbs tank in 2 or 3 weeks, in a truley sealed room it lasts almost 2 months.
What was retail on that bucket? An its started to slow down after only 1 week?
I could probably blow out 100lbs of co2 for the same price or less that would last almost 2 months even in your tents( I used to run tents)
Why buy a bucket full of crap when you can just buy pure co2 for cheaper?
And your bucket is pumpimg out precious co2 all night long when the plants dont use it just wasteing its production.

CoCoSativas · Mar 28, 2015

OranguTrump said:
I was under the impression that CO2 did more during flowering, but it makes sense you'd see benefits during veg time, too.

Hopefully there's still some oomph left around the time you kick into 12/12, and we can see the improvement it brings.

I have 8 weeks of yeast the shop gave me. This is an ongoing test until I chop down the plants. When the bucket stops producing I brew a new batch.

Plants breath co2 so they preform better in veg and flower with co2

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