DNA Lighting Solutions

I will be updating this thread with a test I will be doing for DNA Lighting Solutions. I have 2 - Phillips 860 watts and 2 - MGD 1000w (Multi Gas Discharge) and the 2 MGD 600w are on the way. Today is day 1 of flower. I am running this in an under current style system with Mills Nutrients. I have 2 Connoisseur Genetics - Cheese Dogs, 3 Rare Dankness - Docs's OG, and 1 DNA - Lemon Skunk.

Method Seven Shot.

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Thanks for showing up guys, I hope this is a good show. I will try to take a picture every night from the same spot. Here is last nights pic.

Day 2

I just installed a 18000btu AC in this bitch today too.

Here is a little info for the none believers. This can be found in the CMH Thread. This response is found at the end here...https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?postid=5766436#post5766436

I have no problem with GreenThumb14 whatsoever, I just want to make it clear whats up.

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Originally Posted by GreenThumb14

Ya, that's my point. My other point is that the electronic ballasts that DNA/GEL, etc. are selling to people for ridiculous prices actually cost them next to nothing. I have 2 sources right now for digital ballasts for the MW Elite bulb line up (210w & 315w) and you'd shat if you saw just how cheap they are - High frequency, too... Buy a bulb, buy a ballast, none of it is your intellectual property but you can resell it for an arm-and-leg price (That's GEL/DNA in a nutshell). I'll have 315w kits out soon and they'll be cheaper than GEL and just the same quality.

I hope my disdain for companies like GEL/DNA (I still believe they're the same people) isn't too obvious

I put this post in here because I didn't want to shit on your comparison test. I value your effort doing a side-by-side and I'm interested to see which bulb does better, so don't take this the wrong way.


Respose from greenwithenvy:

First: Its not as easy as it is said. Pooff just order a hf ballast and pair to lamp and vuala, u have it all figured out... nope, not even close, not even on the same planet.
This cmh is special and requires special technology to run them the way DNA claims, which extends lamp life, spectrum consistency and output, and improved lumen life and decrease depreciation %.

Second: You have to establish relationship with your manufacture and do a moq (minimum order quantity). Thats a few hundred g's

Third: It takes big money to make money. DNA is in business to do business... I.e make money.

Fourth: There are huge technological differences between low quality and high quality ballast...I.e parts for ballast, casing, computer mods and chips, workmanship, wiring, time, and a lot more.
DNA wants a good quality ballast that they can stand behind and warranty. Im not even touching the surface at all.
Its business 101, overhead, payroll, shipping, and again a bunch more stuff that all adds to cost.

Fifth: If it was so easy and not special at all, why doesn't every one just do it? Ill tell you why, because it cost a FUCK load of money, man hours, designing parameters, negotiation delimas, ul procedures, paperwork,head aches, ups and downs, shipping bullshit from china, customs and again, a lot more!!! So its clear you haven't ran an import/export business before, that I know is obvious.

Sixth: DNA started this business to bring newer and better technology to the grower at a price that is better by far than led, plasma, and induction, that we all know for the money, doesn't do a damn thing for most growers, hence most growers still use mh/hps. DNA is simply supplying a better product at an affordable price that is comparable to hps pricing. The 315w ballast with lamp and adapter is only $350 and with a $280 og hood for only $500. There are other company's charging about double that for what they are selling, with an idy bidy tiny little hood that cost about $30 bucks. Im sure they are making money but definately not trying to rail anyone. And the 860 isnt much more! But I digress, obviously DNA must not know anything, haven't done any studying or homework, never ran a business, have no money, must be ripping everyone off, and a horrible business , blaa, blaa, fucking blaa.
Its simple if you dont like the product and /or pricing don't buy it.

Ill go a step further. Here's a challenge for anyone on planet Earth, if you can come up with a lamp/ballast technology different than what DNA is offering at a better price with better quality and a better spectrum, Ill eat my shorts and ill buy your product.
Let me make it simple for you:
Hps
Mh
Induction
Led
Plasma
Pretty sure that covers it,
DNA will put it to the test in front of the world with machines that give us facts not opinions like micro mole quantum meters and spectrometers for par/ppf. Lets see who steps up and lets see who's eating who's shorts.
Not including what they have, which btw they have more things a brewin in immediate near future that are bad ass and new technology.


"Gel" like other companies have zero connection with DNA.
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Day 3

Ok here is some info. I took these pics with a Quantum Meter.

This is how I took all the pics. I held the sensor like this for every pic.


The 1st bulb was the 860 and I held it at the bottom of the bulb touching the glass on every reading. looks like this.


This is that reading.


This is the reading from touching the side of the bulb. Not the bottom.

These pics were taken at the exact same time, I never moved my grip on the sensor for the MGD bulb from the bottom of the bulb.


This is that reading.


This is the side reading from that bulb.



All the measurements are to the best of my ability with what I have.

You sir have some mighty fine toys in that play room

joe guy said:

You sir have some mighty fine toys in that play room

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Thanks Joe. That toy was a requirement for me to do this test. I now think this is the tool everyone should use to lower your light to the needed height. My canopy is at 1000 + micromoles. I love playing with my tool.

Sub'd. This should be nice. Thanks Envy.

Dingofriar said:

Sub'd. This should be nice. Thanks Envy.

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Thank you Dingo.

Hey I tried to weed through the cmh forum but prob just easier to ask you. What type of ballast is needed to run the Philips 860 ie 1000 watt hps or mh etc.

greenwithenvy said:

These pics were taken at the exact same time, I never moved my grip on the sensor for the MGD bulb from the bottom of the bulb.
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This is that reading.
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This is the side reading from that bulb.
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All the measurements are to the best of my ability with what I have.

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