Zamaldelica

dubi · May 10, 2016

Mephorius said:
Hello
These are my beautiful ZDs grown under 80W Cree Leds (2x CXA3070). I have 2 phenos out of 2 plants, one is very stretchy and has huge (and airy) flowers (ZD#1) and the other one had some moderate stretch and so far the buds are more dense (ZD#3)

Zamaldelica #1, Day 57
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Hi Mephorius :tiphat:

Thanks for sharing your 2 Zamaldelicas under LEDs.
It's not easy to grow small tropical sativas with this type of lights, but yours are doing pretty well. Do you find differences in the smell between both plants ?

I think the first one will be ready in about 70-75 days of flowering, while the #3 will take 80+ days to ripen.

I like a lot the look of your ZD # 3, the pistils, resins and reflowerings are more influenced by the thai than most of the other plants in this thread.

dubi · May 10, 2016

ZanzibarDawa said:
Thought I do a "quick" smoke report on my Zamaldelicas.
All have been cobbed with Tangwena's method (Malawi style cob cureing).
The cobbing seems to work wonders, the smoke is smoother and the potency seems to increase quite a bit.
All three are very strong and it would be very easy to get severely pistil whipped when rolling a fatty as they are all creepers - to varying extent.
I stayed with my little pinnies...

Zamaldelica #1

I think this is a good representation of the Zamaldelica cross. Strong mango aromas and the structure is a good mix of the parents I guess. If I remember correctly, she was chopped at 14 weeks.

The high is a creeper, first effects maybe after 4-5minutes, building for 3/4 hours. The high comes in waves.
I really like the high of this one, hope to keep her for a long time. A trippy lady but not as clear as ZD3. She gives me a comic book feel. Everything seems to be different and seems to look like out of a comic book, but it doesn't. It is really hard to describe, it kind of feels a bit like having visuals, but without actually having any, at least not really...hmmm doesn't make too much sense but it's the best description I can come up with. The high has a nice elevating/euphoric aspect, it puts a bright smile on your face.

Zamaldelica #2

Shortest, sturdy structure, Malawi leaning pheno, by far the fastest of the three. She was chopped a bit early due to a few nanners.
This was tested least, so I might edit this with further testing. The high is somewhat of a creeper and builds pretty steadily for about 30-40 minutes at least.
It is by far the heaviest of the three, strong malawi influence.
It has no physical couch lock, maybe the slightest body stone, but a very profound mental couch lock. I imagine some similarity to the effects of opium (never tried, never will).
It puts you in a very different place, hard to describe and it it pretty much mentally debilitating. So if you are doing course calculations for a swing by manouver around Mars in your space ship, don't smoke this!
The high isn't too euphoric, more being conent in any and every aspect. I wouldn't describe it as a muddy high, but it isn't clear either...I'll need to nail that down a bit more before writing too much...

Zamaldelica #3

This is the Thai/Zamal pheno, although I believe the high to be pretty much Thai leaning.
Here is a copy of my preliminary smoke report:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The smell is some hints o fruit some earthly tones and a LOT of black pepper, almost makes you sneeze. The high is very clear and focused, happy but not so much giggly more a state of bliss, energy rushing through the body. You don't feel as high as you actually are as it is so clear, cognitive tasks are relatively easy given the altitude View Image After all I read I could imagine it would remind some old timers of good Thai weed. There is no fatigue or hangover, just a very pleasant, happy and refreshed/energetic afterglow. Definitely daytime/party smoke.
I could well imagine that it gets extremely psychedelic and trippy in higher doses, will try.
She will be killer with a bit of a cure.
[/FONT]The smell has by now changed to almost all pepper with some earthy and ripe mango undertones.
Dubi, is this a common pheno and where does the pepper smell/taste come from?
My preliminary report still stands, but I want to add a few things.
As the other ones, this too is a creeper, first effects maybe 4 minutes in and then keeps building. In higher doses the waves hit quite hard here, not as gentle a rise as #1, more a rollercoaster going into free fall.
Just as #1 is putting a smile on your face, this puts a big fat smile on your soul. It is very blissful and clear.
Makes you feel you are radiating light and pure energy from the inside out. At the same time it is extremely profound. This is more than just happy weed, it has a somewhat mystical aspect, almost transcendental. Time is slowed way down. Perception is greatly aqltered. It is not as visual as #1. It is more seeing the world with new eyes than seeing a new world. But then my living room looked green...it actually is blue.
What I really like about this is that it lets you sit there in awe and pure astonishment. Due to the strongly altered perception listening to music is amazing too. That said, I could see that for some paranoia could be a problem with this as it can be quite overwhelming and is so profound, once you have lift off you are in for the ride - for better or for worse, but there is no way to withdraw yourself from the experience. This is way past ++ on the Shulgin scale.
The afterglow is just as blissful as the high and lasts the longest.
I think this pheno has some very special and rare aspects, but it would be a waste to smoke this too often, this is a special treat!

I'm very happy I got such different phenos. #1 is the perfect smoke if you just want a trippy and happy time. #3 is a deeply moving experience, something you want to process for a time. So this makes #2 my step child (for now, will do more sampling), it is similar to the malawis, but they are better at what they are than #2, which for itself is still very good by the way but better is the enemy of good. #1 and #3 share some characteristics but on the other hand they are worlds apart and I am very happy to have both.

If I had to pick a favourite it would - hands down - be #3. Although she is not for the faint of heart and couldn't be further from the perfect every day weed, I think she is something very rare and beautiful. So if any of you come across a pepper pheno, guard it with your life!

All three are very long lasting and they carry a nice afterglow (also very long lasting) once they wore off, although Zamaldelica #2 has the least and least pleasurable afterglow.

ZD

Hi ZanzibarDawa

Thank you very much for taking your time to describe so well the effects, aromas and psychedelic qualities of Zamaldelica. I love the way you go deep with the details and with the more subtle differences among the females.

By the look and by the description of your female 1, this is my favourite Zamal dominant refined expression, as you have experienced it produces a very clean, elevating (almost feel like flying, 'i can not stop moving but at the same time i can't feel the legs), energetic and with a psychedelic positive quality to it that makes this Zamaldelica pheno be truely special.

Female 2 is the Malawi pheno, with a much heavier (less clean or euphoric), profound and narcotic opium like effect.

The third female seems to be a Zamal/Thai pheno with strong thai influence and a touch of Zamal. The black pepper aromas come from the thai while the more subtle fruity background comes from Zamal. The more thai influenced phenos have that kind of effect that produces a strong (yet super clean in the head) rush of energy without hangover, almost like taking an excitant sustance, i'm glad she is also providing blissful states .... usually the very dominant thai phenos are too excitant for most people and some can be prone to produce anxiety or panic to the unexperienced sativa smokers. I overall prefer the positive and warmer euphoria and psychedelia of the Zamal refined pheno over the colder, more nervous thai phenos.

dubi · May 10, 2016

LuliWeed said:
Hello! I have a fem zamaldelica at eight and a half weeks of flowering. I am surpprised that looks pretty done, any advise on the pheno?
Cheers!

Welcome LuliWeed

Thanks for sharing your Zamaldelica's outdoor pics.
It's without any doubt a Malawi pheno, closer to the New Malawi Killer parental plant. I would recommend you to let her mature for at least 3 weeks more, she will reward you with extra flower density, much more resin production and with a higher level of potency difficult to match.

Best wishes!

dubi · May 10, 2016

Wonderful Terpene

Amazing mix of african sativas, purple haze, purple thai and widow :yes:

The flowers of your hybrid are a joy to the eye and your description of the aromas (mango with juice of purple fruits) makes it even more delightful.

Do you have any name in mind for the cross ? Can't wait for the smoke report after harvest .... with such complex genetic background guess it will need a good and proper curing to show all its aromatic subtilities and terpene potential.

ZanzibarDawa · May 10, 2016

dubi said:
Hi ZanzibarDawa

Thank you very much for taking your time to describe so well the effects, aromas and psychedelic qualities of Zamaldelica. I love the way you go deep with the details and with the more subtle differences among the females.

By the look and by the description of your female 1, this is my favourite Zamal dominant refined expression, as you have experienced it produces a very clean, elevating (almost feel like flying, 'i can not stop moving but at the same time i can't feel the legs), energetic and with a psychedelic positive quality to it that makes this Zamaldelica pheno be truely special.

Female 2 is the Malawi pheno, with a much heavier (less clean or euphoric), profound and narcotic opium like effect.

The third female seems to be a Zamal/Thai pheno with strong thai influence and a touch of Zamal. The black pepper aromas come from the thai while the more subtle fruity background comes from Zamal. The more thai influenced phenos have that kind of effect that produces a strong (yet super clean in the head) rush of energy without hangover, almost like taking an excitant sustance, i'm glad she is also providing blissful states .... usually the very dominant thai phenos are too excitant for most people and some can be prone to produce anxiety or panic to the unexperienced sativa smokers. I overall prefer the positive and warmer euphoria and psychedelia of the Zamal refined pheno over the colder, more nervous thai phenos.

Dubi,

it is I who has to thank you. Without these brilliant genetics there would not be anything worth writing about.
Quite happy I identified the phenos correctly too.

I agree that the Zamal high is generally more enjoyable, less edgy maybe, although it is far from tamed.
But then I like to get scared a little. The Thai pheno certainly has a strong element of terror to it. With this one you go down a very deep rabbit hole. As I see it you have to really let go and go with it, fighting the experience is asking for trouble. Maybe it needs a disclaimer: not for the faint of heart.
Still, to enjoy this I have to be in the right mood as the high is a LOT to take in and involves you completely, here the training wheels are off and there is no net below. Not for every day!

The Zamal pheno is just great, your description is spot on. It is uncomplicated in the sense that you simply smoke it and you have a great trippy time, it is a so much kinder, warmer trip. Really enjoyable tripping weed, but tripping weed it is! Quite sure this will be my favourite smoke this summer.

I am very happy to have both and will keep them for a long time. Unbelievable that I found two definite keepers with only running 3 ladies!

I'm already looking for new strains for the next rounds. Bangi Haze is on the list, maybe some OTH too? Open to suggestions.

ZD

nksv · May 11, 2016

I am about to harvest my first batch! Can't wait - any tips on knowing where these ladies are done? Trichomes etc? Been reading around and some different opinions on this...
Many thanks!

Terpene · May 11, 2016

dubi said:
Wonderful Terpene

Amazing mix of african sativas, purple haze, purple thai and widow
The flowers of your hybrid are a joy to the eye and your description of the aromas (mango with juice of purple fruits) makes it even more delightful.

Do you have any name in mind for the cross ? Can't wait for the smoke report after harvest .... with such complex genetic background guess it will need a good and proper curing to show all its aromatic subtilities and terpene potential.

Your plants make the best crosses. :huggg:

I really didn't do anything special though, just smacking pretty plants together. I've actually had this cross before in the form of a friend's first outdoor run. For this cross, I purposely selected my first Zamaldelica that was super mango-carrot and a bit more zamal / malawi in effect. This way I was somewhat able to achieve my goal of "taming" the ZOMG scary of the Zamaldelica in the cross. The haze / widow addition tends to make it a little introspective / dreamy (haze side) and soaring (widow side) while adding a bit of color. It's also pretty bomb proof - this plant was very neglected / near dead looking when I tossed it into flower. I don't have a name for it, its been called "Zamal" cause thats the only part of the cross that really matters, or at least effect wise. :tiphat:

I should note that I gave some early flowers (9 week) to a friend who runs a primarily CBD based seed line here. He said its one of the strongest, if not the strongest thing hes ever smoked - not a bad compliment for the Zamaldelica line from a guy who lives on wax / oil / shatter.

nksv said:
I am about to harvest my first batch! Can't wait - any tips on knowing where these ladies are done? Trichomes etc? Been reading around and some different opinions on this...
Many thanks!

When it comes to sativas: after all the white pistils are gone, harvest the plant.

yaxu · May 11, 2016

Hola,zamaldelica 9 semanas de floración,olor bien frutal,melón!! muy resistente a la botritis y a la humedad,harto tricomas.

Abonada sólo con ceniza y humus,no pide mucho :gran sonrisa:

Mephorius · May 12, 2016

What a lovely plant, @yaxu :headbange

Dr. Fred · May 13, 2016

Beautiful

orfeas · May 13, 2016

Que linda la concha, chileno!

:tiphat:

Orfeas

MadMac · May 14, 2016

high @ all,
here my last Zamldelica (Malawi pheno) week 13 in flower...
only one plant...
M. :tiphat:

Zaldelica (Malawi pheno @ week 13 flower)

paper_clip · May 17, 2016

Hey guys have a little update and a question if you don't mind.

As of today all eight of my Zamaldelica plants have been identified, I have six females and two males! Two of the ladies look as though I'll be able to take a clone from them by the end of this month or within the first few weeks of next month which means I should have two ready to be flowered by the end of next month at the earliest!

One question though, one of the males are throwing out balls like it's flowering. They're all still in veg but I have them under 24/0. I think I read something somewhere that with some Sativa's it's possible that can cause issues such as this is that true? Could this be why it's throwing out balls or could this possibly be a 'semi-flowering' trait?

Reason I'm asking is because I think I may cull the male that's throwing out balls to decrease the odds of any offspring from seeds I may create doing the same but not sure if I should because I don't know if it's because of my photoperiod or not. The other male is behaving normally, I see the pre-flowers but it's behaving as expected of a vegging plant. So I feel like it'd be a better idea only keep that one.

Out of the six females one of them are semi-flowering as well, but I think I'll be keeping it at least until I can see what it has to offer first.

Shooters · May 17, 2016

I bred my semi-auto-flowering zamaldelica male and female as I like that trait. As soon as the male started getting root bound it grew out four male flowers that I clipped to let the plant veg some more while I waited for the female to catch up some and be more prepared for his pollen.

Mephorius · May 21, 2016

So nice genetic!

So nice genetic!

I really love my Zamaldelica plant <3
I will keep her cuttings for sure, she looks so beautiful!

LuliWeed · May 23, 2016

Hello! I took some pics of my beautiful zamaldelica yesterday. She's almost 11 weeks flowering, although I understand that still needs a few weeks. Am I right? Is my first time with a real sativa and I'm trying not to miss the moment.

Thanks in advance!

MadMac · May 23, 2016

LuliWeed said:
Hello! I took some pics of my beautiful zamaldelica yesterday. She's almost 11 weeks flowering, although I understand that still needs a few weeks. Am I right? Is my first time with a real sativa and I'm trying not to miss the moment.

Thanks in advance!

wow LuliWeed,
looks promising!!!
well if your weather conditions are well i would go for 3-4 weeks longer... look @ the trichomes if most are milky or cloudy and a few amber than it's time to chop

wish you all the best!
M. :tiphat:

OlDirtyHuman · May 24, 2016

Getting thick at almost 7 weeks. I took a clone after flowering started that has good roots but no new growth yet. Really hoping it takes because this is going to be a huge yielding plant.

LuliWeed · May 24, 2016

MadMac said:
wow LuliWeed,
looks promising!!!
well if your weather conditions are well i would go for 3-4 weeks longer... look @ the trichomes if most are milky or cloudy and a few amber than it's time to chop
wish you all the best!
M.

Thanks for the advice! Yes it's promising indeed, it makes mo so happy :biggrin:

Weather is not a problem, so I'll go for a few more weeks.
Cheers!

jay sus · May 26, 2016

hi you fellow zamalites. here´s pics of soa zamal reunion and zamaldelica. pic of ZR is at ten weeks, zamaldelica at 8th week.

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