The Amazing Dr. Zymes ftw-
not made by Monsanto- hah
not made by Monsanto- hah
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Eradicate Broad Mites 100% Organically
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GuyManDude
Active member
wanna know what worked when i fought broad mites? A total clean out. I chopped every mom, every plant in veg, every plant in flower and burned them. I swept and vacuumed every particle of plant material, dirt and coco up with a broom and shop vac and tossed that in various dumpsters. Then I sprayed every wall and the floor with bleach solution and wiped every light fixture with the same. Then i let the rooms sit for about 3 months, empty before I started back up.
before i came to that conclusion, I tried Met 32, Green Cleaner, Avid, Forbid, neem, etc.
i am now mite free, Thank God, because those litte bastards are the work of pure evil.
before i came to that conclusion, I tried Met 32, Green Cleaner, Avid, Forbid, neem, etc.
i am now mite free, Thank God, because those litte bastards are the work of pure evil.
Coughie
Member
You got lucky then, because that's failed people before.
And some people have varietals or cuttings that they cant' simply reacquire.
I'm glad it worked for you, but it can't be "standard procedure" for multiple reasons.
Another reason being that some folks truly depend on this medicine and cant afford 3-6 mo's of "going without"
And Met52 isn't necessary either, so Monsanto can keep it~
Fight bugs with bugs~
And some people have varietals or cuttings that they cant' simply reacquire.
I'm glad it worked for you, but it can't be "standard procedure" for multiple reasons.
Another reason being that some folks truly depend on this medicine and cant afford 3-6 mo's of "going without"
And Met52 isn't necessary either, so Monsanto can keep it~
Fight bugs with bugs~
I have used IPM on Cannabis for 40 years on massive a scale and never completely eliminated mites of any kind with just good bugs to kill the bad bugs. You can pretty easy knock the population down to levels where they cause little economic damage but down to zero I have not see it ever.
-SamS
-SamS
_tessarecting
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Yeah but Sam has 40 years of oh wait no one cares.
Glad to see you're staying mitefree Coughie.
I was so worried about broads/russets on my outdoor but I haven't seen any in I think like 6 months.
Glad to see you're staying mitefree Coughie.
I was so worried about broads/russets on my outdoor but I haven't seen any in I think like 6 months.
FoothillFarming
Active member
The essential oils are really working for me. Just two spotted mites, but zero cats either.
Did you use this stuff? If so how much per gal?
Integrated pest management is the only way to go.
Start with a non-residual pesticide to knock down a population before applying predator bugs.
I have used it to control russet mites at medium strength. You have to rinse the plants off the next day like sulfur to avoid leaf tip burn from the citric acid.
Medium strength is 1-1.5 oz per 31 oz of water. I used a ratio 1:20 one gallon of Dr. Zymes to 20 gallons of water
Coughie
Member
Follow that up with a secondary food source to keep the predator population high - of which, you should start with a massive number of - then manipulate the environment to favor the predators ability to breed (which is generally polar-opposite to the environment that pests find favorable)...
Follow all that up with a second application of predators because the first - if you didn't have the environment dialed in, or a secondary food source available when they arrived - may not have established themselves properly.
This is both academically and personally verified to work. My personal experience may not mean much to most folks, but the academia out there about this approach should be enough for most common-sense thinkers.
And if that's not enough for your personal satisfaction, lower the amount of vegetation and change the vegetation-area : mite population ratio. 50,000 mites on 5, 5-foot tall plants isn't the same as 50,000 mites on 5, 1-foot tall plants.
The fact that Sam states it's never worked entirely, but has suppressed the numbers of pests to a point where "they cause little economic damage" practically insinuates that he applied the bugs, crossed his fingers and hoped for the best. Which... if that's what you do, that's how it'll work. You'll suppress them enough that you end up with a false sense of security, lull yourself into thinking they're gone and then they make a come back only for you to realize it after there's a substantial population again.
Do that a few times, get pissed off, and of course you then try an inorganic approach, because "that organic stuff doesn't work"...
But it does..
You just have to understand the war, to win it.
When I was growing my weed and my veggies this year, the doggone mites of course were coming in from pretty much all directions.
I had to completely whack a whole section of squash because they got eaten up. I dosed em real heavy with imodacloprid from Bayer, and that took the starch out of those mites' asses for several excellent weeks.
But something happened we've all seen. -Oh my pot wasn't NEARLY so hard hit, just sayin, it was right next to em but anyway I digress-
The tip top leaves of those squash, started burning and curling over mites style again, and I started - again - I left this out - spraying the things with water spray from the garden hose, every day a time or two.
How the mites got control the first time was that I had been going out each and every day, spraying misted water, all up in the leaves. Especially, the pot.
When I laid off spraying em, I laid off mostly on the squash - and the whole patch went up in smoke so to speak. After a couple weeks of the low spritz frequency and duration I broke off all the totally torched leaves on the plants, and didn't do crazy clean-up shit, I just cleaned up PRETTY good.
This was by no means VERY good: it was an outdoor bed.
When I dosed the shit out of them all, including the pot, with imadacloprid, the pot cleared up comPLETELy because there were only a few mites on it: I had kept up, spraying the pot plants each and every day once, with water at least.
Now - thing is, I've been around farmers, all my life, and I'm nearly 60 now; and my ma, grandma, and grandpa, were all farmin' fools, who knew wtF CHuCK about their farming; my mom, sold exotic plants.
One time, when I was about mid -20s I had some kind of job where I went to peoples' houses, or I was volunteering for charity or something, and some old guy, I walked into his yard, and there he stands with the water hose, douching the squash. These things get like... Huge friggin leaves, they really make a lot of deep green vegetation, so they always stick out in somebody's garden, and the old guy says to me, ''Heh Heh, -they say if ya spray em down with water when the mites first hit, it can stop em and just so happens - they start, at the TOP leaves!'' and he seemed to think that shit was kinda pleasant the way that worked out, so,
this year, I was doing it to my own plants; cause I kept noticing, that especially on the squash but on all those veggies, some tomatoes, and some cucumbers and cantaloupe, etc - the mite burn was definitely happening from the edges, the tips and tops, of the plants' typically, uppermost leaves.
If you do this for pot obviously, there comes a time when you have to stop. You can't douche with water, forever; but there are things you CAN do, to string it out.
One thing is, arrange some way to dose that water with some kind of real mild anti fungal. For instance some baking soda, once flowering starts, if you have that mixed up in the mist, or in your water hose fertilizer delivery adapter - your days of misting are numbered, but you can still hold off the fungus some. If it rains or whatever, come along right behind that, and dose the plants all with some baking soda or some other effectively harmless anti fungal
Also, there are all the more typical methods of critter control you guys have all talked about and read about here in the thread; I was really, just trying to jump-start the concept of looking over and seeing what the legal veggie and flower people do.
I'm the world's worst for never shutting up once I start; but when you go out and see how they keep the mites down? They tend to spray or mist stuff, with a mist of water.
And you can do it with your pot, when it's in veg and early flower, especially if you've got a good fungus resistant strain.
Peace
I had to completely whack a whole section of squash because they got eaten up. I dosed em real heavy with imodacloprid from Bayer, and that took the starch out of those mites' asses for several excellent weeks.
But something happened we've all seen. -Oh my pot wasn't NEARLY so hard hit, just sayin, it was right next to em but anyway I digress-
The tip top leaves of those squash, started burning and curling over mites style again, and I started - again - I left this out - spraying the things with water spray from the garden hose, every day a time or two.
How the mites got control the first time was that I had been going out each and every day, spraying misted water, all up in the leaves. Especially, the pot.
When I laid off spraying em, I laid off mostly on the squash - and the whole patch went up in smoke so to speak. After a couple weeks of the low spritz frequency and duration I broke off all the totally torched leaves on the plants, and didn't do crazy clean-up shit, I just cleaned up PRETTY good.
This was by no means VERY good: it was an outdoor bed.
When I dosed the shit out of them all, including the pot, with imadacloprid, the pot cleared up comPLETELy because there were only a few mites on it: I had kept up, spraying the pot plants each and every day once, with water at least.
Now - thing is, I've been around farmers, all my life, and I'm nearly 60 now; and my ma, grandma, and grandpa, were all farmin' fools, who knew wtF CHuCK about their farming; my mom, sold exotic plants.
One time, when I was about mid -20s I had some kind of job where I went to peoples' houses, or I was volunteering for charity or something, and some old guy, I walked into his yard, and there he stands with the water hose, douching the squash. These things get like... Huge friggin leaves, they really make a lot of deep green vegetation, so they always stick out in somebody's garden, and the old guy says to me, ''Heh Heh, -they say if ya spray em down with water when the mites first hit, it can stop em and just so happens - they start, at the TOP leaves!'' and he seemed to think that shit was kinda pleasant the way that worked out, so,
this year, I was doing it to my own plants; cause I kept noticing, that especially on the squash but on all those veggies, some tomatoes, and some cucumbers and cantaloupe, etc - the mite burn was definitely happening from the edges, the tips and tops, of the plants' typically, uppermost leaves.
If you do this for pot obviously, there comes a time when you have to stop. You can't douche with water, forever; but there are things you CAN do, to string it out.
One thing is, arrange some way to dose that water with some kind of real mild anti fungal. For instance some baking soda, once flowering starts, if you have that mixed up in the mist, or in your water hose fertilizer delivery adapter - your days of misting are numbered, but you can still hold off the fungus some. If it rains or whatever, come along right behind that, and dose the plants all with some baking soda or some other effectively harmless anti fungal
Also, there are all the more typical methods of critter control you guys have all talked about and read about here in the thread; I was really, just trying to jump-start the concept of looking over and seeing what the legal veggie and flower people do.
I'm the world's worst for never shutting up once I start; but when you go out and see how they keep the mites down? They tend to spray or mist stuff, with a mist of water.
And you can do it with your pot, when it's in veg and early flower, especially if you've got a good fungus resistant strain.
Peace
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