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Boo

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Veteran
Put tne shock collar on his ass though.
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I will need it for Ivan if at all...it will be with me as will 2 leashes...the collar goes from 0-131...I used it with Ivan when he thought pigs were something he could eat...fucker got 1 shock at level 34...I never had to use it twice...
l let him know what he was doing wouldn't be tolerated...I've had 13 GSD dogs in my lifetime so I feel I am pretty good teaching them...I never have use violence with any of them...I did have to pick up Ivan by the neck and we had a face to face...that changed him quickly...Dutch was the best of the best, he needed very little training although he got 600 hours of military training to do the things I felt a large dog should...I couldn't find anyone that would put a sleeve on for him twice...he hurt one decoy, got him in the nuts...Ian has a wicked mean streak if given the ability to use it, he is truly a terror when motivated, a lover almost all the time, at least with daddy...I will separate them with one side of a crate I have...Ivan almost snapped Lesso's dogs head off last year...both dogs are intact working breeds from east Germany...they are legendary for their ability...he was born to be a badass and by God he is...he listens very well and will quiver with drive if I give him the hold command...I am installing a steel screen to divide the 2 on the trip home...this first day will be interesting...
 

PadawanWarrior

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No training aid works if the owner has weak energy.

He gets angry with the dog and jerks it. That only makes it worse.

The most dangerous dog statistically is an abused male pitbull. I'm on my second one and he is 100 lbs of muscle and speed. But he knows his place in the pack and reacts equally well to my energy or a command.
I agree about the energy thing. But we needed a shock collar for our 125 lb Mastiff Lab mix if he was off leash. He was a runner and liked to go explore. It didn't help that we're in Colorado where everyone loves dogs. He would venture out, find a new place to hang out and they'd call us telling us they had our dog.

We had a fenced yard but he would figure out how to bust out so nothing was going to stop that dog from wandering. My uncle in law has had a few labs, and 2 were runners like ours. One was hit by a car.

I wasn't a big fan of the idea, but they work, and I don't think they're that bad. I tried it on myself, and it wasn't fun, but I knew I didn't want to touch it again. :ROFLMAO:
 

FTL

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I heard that about my generation, my son's generation and now I hear my 42 year son call his younger generation lazy. The circle goes round and round
It comes down to management imho.

The management style of the past does not work on current generations.

Knowing how to motivate and get the best from your workers is the key.

The younger generations are not lazy they just have a different cultural mind set to previous generations due the to environment they were raised in.

It’s now more about collaboration and working in a more flat egalitarian structure as opposed to the old vertical chain of command hierarchy of previous generations imo.
 

Dime

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Premium user
It might sound crazy but we had female lab like this. She wanted to be the alpha and was willing to challenge my wife and I for the position.


1/2 dozen dominance down sessions until she finally submitted.


With a Pitbull dominance down could get ugly, so I use a fireworks popper gun (loud firecracker noise).

3 pits and most I had to use on any of them was twice. After that the sight of it was enough.

Ironically the popper would have never worked on the lab. She loved fireworks and had no fear of thunderstorms.
Mine doesn't fear anything,he was getting pretty bad for a while there, the last time he got goofy I pinned him and it took everything I had to do it and held him there with just my weight and holding his collar and he finally realaxed and showed me his belly,it took a good 15 minutes. He does everything I tell him unless he's bored and grabs something, he steals everything,joints, cig butts, pieces of paper and once he has them he won't give them up without beong a dick. The other day a lady came walking down my road with her 2 labs off leash and he spotted them and took off and I yelled at him and he came back ,thank God,he would have taken all 3 out. He won't let anyone touch him but me,others have tried and he stares at them and growls,he's gotten a lot better in the last cple months,I hope the trend continues.
 

Dime

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Premium user
It comes down to management imho.

The management style of the past does not work on current generations.

Knowing how to motivate and get the best from your workers is the key.

The younger generations are not lazy they just have a different cultural mind set to previous generations due the to environment they were raised in.

It’s now more about collaboration and working in a more flat egalitarian structure as opposed to the old vertical chain of command hierarchy of previous generations imo.

They are spoiled and get offended too easily,they live in a fantasy world without accountability. When the chips are down they won't be able to make it without help.
 
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Dime

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How old is he? When push comes to shove, ya might have to take off a flip-flop.
Get 50 feet of cord and do some 'come' exercises 3-4 times a day for 5 minutes. Calm, consistent, repetitive...easy for me to say.
Oh he comes running if I call him, he hasn't been socialized enough with other dogs and he's claimed the whole back road,he walks off leash,fetches,down,stay, anything he's asked, if he sees another dog if on leash walking him he ignores it , if he's offleash on the property he will run it off. He takes his job too seriously,he's pinned to me whenever we are together, I think he claimed me too lol hes 2 1/2
 

oldmaninbc

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420club
It comes down to management imho.

The management style of the past does not work on current generations.

Knowing how to motivate and get the best from your workers is the key.

The younger generations are not lazy they just have a different cultural mind set to previous generations due the to environment they were raised in.

It’s now more about collaboration and working in a more flat egalitarian structure as opposed to the old vertical chain of command hierarchy of previous generations imo.
I've worked with young people and some are very productive. My Mrs managed a Subway in the village and over the decade she had many young employees who were good workers.

I've worked with some adults who don't seem to understand the concept of work, at all.

Old habits are hard to break for some in management the traditional paradigm of management needs to be challenged...being bossy isn't being a good leader.
 

Dime

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Premium user
How old is he? When push comes to shove, ya might have to take off a flip-flop.
Get 50 feet of cord and do some 'come' exercises 3-4 times a day for 5 minutes. Calm, consistent, repetitive...easy for me to say.
I won't hit him, he would attack if he got hit and risk losing trust he's got a real strong mind and fears absolutely nothing,he would make a great service dog,he loves heights too ,he will climb up on the roof, I had 2 sawhorses with a 2x6 on it and he jumped up and walked it and it was wobbling,after playing stick he comes back and his mouth is all bloody and he doesn't even notice.
 

Dime

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Premium user
I've worked with young people and some are very productive. My Mrs managed a Subway in the village and over the decade she had many young employees who were good workers.

I've worked with some adults who don't seem to understand the concept of work, at all.

Old habits are hard to break for some in management the traditional paradigm of management needs to be challenged...being bossy isn't being a good leader.
Your correct but employees also need to know the company needs to make a profit or the jobs go away. Min wage here is creeping up on $20 an hour, I wouldn't want a complainer or a dogfkr on my payroll
 
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