Thai weed from Thailand

[Gypsy Nirvana]

If not Thai stick, what was the weed like?

It looked like what I had come to learn was regular Thai 'erb - brown/maroon hues - and sticky - but the Professor would mix it with the opium - then crumble up a Bayer aspirin - and mix that in too - before offering you a 10 Baht pipe of it - I did ask why he'd mix in the crumbled Bayer aspirin - and he replied 'Good for headache' -

 

[Genghis Kush.]

It looked like what I had come to learn was regular Thai 'erb - brown/maroon hues - and sticky - but the Professor would mix it with the opium - then crumble up a Bayer aspirin - and mix that in too - before offering you a 10 Baht pipe of it - I did ask why he'd mix in the crumbled Bayer aspirin - and he replied 'Good for headache' -

The painless synergism of aspirin and opium - Nature

Why is the combination of aspirin and opioids more analgesic than the summed effect of each drug given separately? The answer lies in the specific inhibition of neurotransmitter release by non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory analgesics. Activation of the μ opioid receptor leads to the production of...

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[Gypsy Nirvana]

The painless synergism of aspirin and opium - Nature

Why is the combination of aspirin and opioids more analgesic than the summed effect of each drug given separately? The answer lies in the specific inhibition of neurotransmitter release by non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory analgesics. Activation of the μ opioid receptor leads to the production of...

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Yeah - this Hmong 'Professor' was keen on mixing all sorts of things - he kept in his bag - into a toking mixture - and pretty soon we were all pretty keen on his 'mixtures' too - so we toked on whatever he would prepare - before during and after elephant trekking - from then on - it certainly helped to iron out the rough edges of the trip - and made us laugh more often -

 

[elchischas]

After reading all of the above, it seems like no one understands that only we are interested in those ancient sativas.

Not even the new generations want them, not because they don't know them;
I'm sure because they'd be afraid of facing a journey that could even generate profound catharsis.

The marijuana Strains that I see popular today is linked to the current social moment.

As Funky rightly said, those who control us like cattle don't want powerful sativas around that could spark a revolution.

 

[willydread]

After reading all of the above, it seems like no one understands that only we are interested in those ancient sativas.

Not even the new generations want them, not because they don't know them;
I'm sure because they'd be afraid of facing a journey that could even generate profound catharsis.

The marijuana Strains that I see popular today is linked to the current social moment.

As Funky rightly said, those who control us like cattle don't want powerful sativas around that could spark a revolution.

Nobody around me love what I grow, not the pure Sativas, we share some spliffs, but nobody want to grow and smoke them... Sad truth

 

[elchischas]

Nobody around me love what I grow, not the pure Sativas, we share some spliffs, but nobody want to grow and smoke them... Sad truth

That's what i'm talking about bro,
same here
Many people says "those are too powerful"


The new generations don't read anymore, they don't go out into nature to explore,
they aren't interested in the people around them or anything other than themselves,
today's marijuana is for keeping minds asleep,
commercially, the sativas we seek aren't useful, and many don't want to smoke them either because they get scared.

 

[Rgd]

The new generations

smoke with their eyes ,nose, taste buds and thc %......

we smoke for particular mood altering characteristics..its only about the high

 

[@hempy]

It takes a dedicated grower that loves both the plant, and the effect it gives to preserve it and still have it around 40 or 50 years later.

How many people that do want to smoke the old school Thai are willing to put in the work of growing these long flowering plants out, do you think ?

 

[Limeygreen]

I would if it's that old school, I want to try it is the thing and never have the chance wasn't born yet. I missed out on the gypsy thai would have been close it sounds like but I will have to deal with what I can get and what is best for me of what's available and I have lots of great genetics thanks to generous people.

Personally though since I don't live in a tropical climate, I would love to be able to buy the old school thai from thai farmers grown in thailand exported to my country, thai stick or loose. I just think if I don't have the right climate it would be better from proper land and country.

 

[Genghis Kush.]

Im looking at a High Times from 1974 and in the market quotes for Bangkok it lists :

- Lavender Thai $1/ stick....$50 pound.


did anybody here get a chance to try the purple thai stick back then?

 

[Chi13]

It takes a dedicated grower that loves both the plant, and the effect it gives to preserve it and still have it around 40 or 50 years later.

How many people that do want to smoke the old school Thai are willing to put in the work of growing these long flowering plants out, do you think ?

I can imagine Thai families growing the same thing for generations. It would be like anything else you grow yearly. Indoor farming would be pretty recent in Thailand, so youd just be growing for the season outdoors and Thai sativas make sense in Thailand.

I'd say most posting in these thread have done the work producing long flowering sativas. We wouldn't have this thread otherwise. Growing long flowering plants just takes patience.

 

[kro-magnon]

They don't have the old Thai lines of the 70s that's the point and if they did, they have no struggle in selling it, trust me on that.

I would bet you have never tried Thai, well good Thai even from the 80s to even have a true understanding of this threads' topic and the discussion happening with in it.

A Thai say they have trouble selling their native cannabis but you know better than her, sure.
And you would lose this bet.

 

[@hempy]

I can imagine Thai families growing the same thing for generations. It would be like anything else you grow yearly. Indoor farming would be pretty recent in Thailand, so youd just be growing for the season outdoors and Thai sativas make sense in Thailand.

I'd say most posting in these thread have done the work producing long flowering sativas. We wouldn't have this thread otherwise. Growing long flowering plants just takes patience.

Then why are they not growing the old Thais from the 70s in Thailand now that it has become legal, Chi13 ?

I have no doubt some very few still hold and grow the old Thai in Thailand as they do here, but good luck finding them, most now are excited to see 55 day flowering.

 

[@hempy]

A Thai say they have trouble selling their native cannabis but you know better than her, sure.
And you would lose this bet.

Give it a rest Kro I am not here to argue with people like you who have no understanding of what good Thai is.

 

[kro-magnon]

Give it a rest Kro I am not here to argue with people like you who have no understanding of what good Thai is.

You're not the only one who had access to good thai and for someone not there to argue you're not doing a great job with your belittling responses.

 

[Chi13]

Then why are they not growing the old Thais from the 70s in Thailand now that it has become legal, Chi13 ?

I have no doubt some very few still hold and grow the old Thai in Thailand as they do here, but good luck finding them, most now are excited to see 55 day flowering.

Could be any number of reasons.
The market for starters. If most want new hybrids perhaps the real stuff is being squeezed out, particularly from dispensaries. It was interesting that the closest to the stick high in this thread was from a street vendor.

I don't believe everything makes it way to the capital cities either. I've not seen as much of Thailand as I have of Laos, but some villages you'd walk into, and it's like walking back in time. The magic probably lies somewhere remote, and in Laos.

 

[@hempy]

You're not the only one who had access to good thai and for someone not there to argue you're not doing a great job with your belittling responses.

No I never went to Thailand, but friends did, and you're not the one that has been growing Thais for 46 years are you, but I have and still grow it.

I saw the righting on the wall in 1984/85 and even tho I and others I knew still had old Thai genetics I set about organising a close friend that travelled to Thailand for work monthly to collect the best he could in 86 I then grew those out made a shitload of seed and past them out to.

I did my part and preserved the old Thais and shared them out and still do, so what have you done, apart from flex your ego on a canna forum ?

 

[kro-magnon]

No I never went to Thailand, but friends did, and you're not the one that has been growing Thais for 46 years are you, but I have and still grow it.

I saw the righting on the wall in 1984/85 and even tho I and others I knew still had old Thai genetics I set about organising a close friend that travelled to Thailand for work monthly to collect the best he could in 86 I then grew those out made a shitload of seed and past them out to.

I did my part and preserved the old Thais and shared them out and still do, so what have you done, apart from flex your ego on a canna forum ?

I'm afraid you're the one trying to flex here and again try to belittle me for not having grown thai for decades. Your growing career is not exceptional, many growers around the world did even more but don't use it to shame other who did not or feed their ego.
I never pretended to be more than a average small scale grower and come here to share my interest for all types of cannabis not trying to impress anyone.

 

[@hempy]

Could be any number of reasons.
The market for starters. If most want new hybrids perhaps the real stuff is being squeezed out, particularly from dispensaries. It was interesting that the closest to the stick high in this thread was from a street vendor.

I don't believe everything makes it way to the capital cities either. I've not seen as much of Thailand as I have of Laos, but some villages you'd walk into, and it's like walking back in time. The magic probably lies somewhere remote, and in Laos.

Bangkok was where it all went back in the day Chi13 brokers would have their people buy the weed from all over Thailand then take it back for it to be graded and packed. So Bangkok played a huge role in the past, and it wouldn't surprise me if it still did.

 

[Donald Mallard]

I have no doubt some very few still hold and grow the old Thai in Thailand as they do here, but good luck finding them, most now are excited to see 55 day flowering.

lets face it , the whole world has changed and not many here grow that sort of weed anymore either,
its quite hard to find ,, in fact so hard , one looking from the outer like we are looking at thailands growing, might think it doesnt exist here any longer either...
the truth is most are still having a love affair with the new hybrids ...

they say no one wants that weed, given they are where its all happening,
and they need to supply the demand , we kinda have to take their word for it ,
as many have said , the tourists , who are the biggest market , want modern looking pot , so straight off the mark it puts the old thai stuff at the back of the pack ...

a few old heads on threads like this is not going to keep a bunch of farmers farming something they cant sell ..

the difference in growing , flowering times varies a little if growing outdoor in thailand or any tropical regions in the same latitudes really ..,
modern hybrids around 12 to 16 weeks seed to harvest and any time of year other than flowering during the monsoon ,
thai sativa , 5 to 6 months , seed to harvest , only once a year , they are pretty easy to grow outdoors though , quite hardy plants , and the hybrids take a lot more to care for..