Panama x Bangi Haze

[LHC]

Nice @FeelHaze

 

[OZZ_]

Day 24 on 11/13.
Sexy and perfumy.

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Looking great!

 

[okletsgrow]

Greetings Pangi fans

Bonsai Pangi - into 12/12 on 26th Oct

So Day 92

Seeking advice on whether it's harvest ready @dubi

I'm in no rush - fresh white pistills still all over the buds.

I usually take small samples before harvest but currently on a tolerance break.

Lemony & herbal terps when I rub the sugar leaves.

Dubi might be too busy with all his extraordinary breeding projects

So ready for advice from fellow pangi fans as well. Looking forward to it.

 

[ilovegrowing]

Greetings Pangi fans

Bonsai Pangi - into 12/12 on 26th Oct

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So Day 92

Seeking advice on whether it's harvest ready @dubi

I'm in no rush - fresh white pistills still all over the buds.

I usually take small samples before harvest but currently on a tolerance break.

Lemony & herbal terps when I rub the sugar leaves.

Dubi might be too busy with all his extraordinary breeding projects

So ready for advice from fellow pangi fans as well. Looking forward to it.

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Doesnt look very far away from havest, but check the brown leaves and get rid of the wilted ones. Its usually where mold is starting to take hold

 

[Old Fogey]

Doesnt look very far away from havest, but check the brown leaves and get rid of the wilted ones. Its usually where mold is starting to take hold

100%.

 

[paisajedehierba]

at least another week for my taste okletsgrow.

 

[okletsgrow]

Doesnt look very far away from havest, but check the brown leaves and get rid of the wilted ones. Its usually where mold is starting to take hold

Thanks for the tip. Implemented

 

[okletsgrow]

at least another week for my taste okletsgrow.

I usually like to harvest early for more head high but I'm willing to experiment.

Will let it grow few more days.

 

[FeelHaze]

Day 27 on 11/13.

Stretch is mostly over.
She's an early girl. Already showing off some trichomes and trying to get attention with her lovely perfume. Long straight pistils like bangi that are also quite thick like Panama's

 

[FeelHaze]

Please keep us updated. Hoping to grow pangi at some point in my small tent, interested to see how that up- potting after the flip effects the stretch.

@rlsmooth
Stretch is pretty much over after 4 weeks under 11/13. Here is the plant on flip day vs 4 weeks later. Transplanted from 6L to 25L pots around day 10 after the flip. Pangi right, Zamaldelica left.

 

[rlsmooth]

@rlsmooth
Stretch is pretty much over after 4 weeks under 11/13. Here is the plant on flip day vs 4 weeks later. Transplanted from 6L to 25L pots around day 10 after the flip. Pangi right, Zamaldelica left.

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Looks great ! Thx for the update.

 

[LHC]

Hi.

I have a little trouble with my Pangi. Hope you guys can help me out.

55 days in flower 11/13.
15 L/4 gal fabric pots. Repotted a couple of days before flip.

Medium: Soil mix:
Biobizz Lightmix 80%
Worm compost 10%
A handfull Plagron Bat Guano
Extra perlite 10%

Air and rootsone temps fine. Light is CMH.

Watering 4 l every second day. Water is very soft. EC:0
Feeding during stretch was Biobizz Grow up to EC 2.0. Still had some yellowing on lower leaves. Gradually started feeding Bloom, and reducing Grow. After a while, got tip burn. Reduced feeding to EC 1.3 ish.
After 3 weeks of flower, added epsom salt in water.
Last couple of weeks, added Biobizz Cal/Mag.
Always PH adjusted to 6.3-6.6 range.

The affected leaves are in the middle of the branches.

 

[Common Sense]

Hello @LHC !
This looks very familiar. I have had this problem in previous grows and have seen it rapidly progressing (within days). I haven't observed it during my last grows, where I had added a little dolomite and volcanic rock dust to the soil mix and started supplementing CalMag from early on. If you look around the net for "CalMag problem", you may recognize similar sights. It seems to be very hard or impossible to reverse or fully correct once it manifests like this. Strong artificial light indoors, especially LED, appears to be associated.

But don't worry too much, your plant looks very nice overall and you are probably only 2-3 weeks away from harvest. Even if she sheds most of her fan leafs now, which can happen, the result will still be good in the end.

Since your water is very soft and you grew a nice lush lady, she may have used up most of what was in the soil mix, including calcium. Adding CalMag just a couple of weeks ago was probably a bit late.
I would keep doing what you are doing and add CalMag at the recommended dose with every watering. Don't go higher than the recommended dose. Measuring EC and pH in runoff to rule out something is way off there would not hurt either.

Just my 2cents. I'm still learning, so curious what others have to say.

 

[LHC]

Hi @Common Sense

Thank´s for helping me out I think you are right regarding cal/mag. Before concluding, I wait a little and see if there are other suggestions also.

Best regards

 

[FeelHaze]

Pangi at day 46 on 11/13.

@LHC I also have a nutrient deficiency that is progressing fast

I think time is on our side. She's really fast. 3 weeks max she'll be dead ripe.

 

[LHC]

They look really nice @FeelHaze. Mine are at day 63 now, and I think she has a couple of weeks left. It will finish OK, but with some deficiency. I find the PBH hard to please.

@dubi, you have mentioned several times in this thread that PBH are very picky about pH. What pH would you recommend?

 

[FeelHaze]

They look really nice @FeelHaze. Mine are at day 63 now, and I think she has a couple of weeks left. It will finish OK, but with some deficiency. I find the PBH hard to please.

@dubi, you have mentioned several times in this thread that PBH are very picky about pH. What pH would you recommend?

I'm also going to finish with deficiency. I flushed Pangi two days ago because she showed signs of lockout/high PH at the roots. The runoff from the flush had a really low PH. After that added cal/mag to protect cell walls.

Normally in soil the PH of your watering solution should be between 6 and 7. Even in that range, overfeeding can cause an accumulation of minerals in the soil that will raise the soil's PH.

First nutrient to lockout with high PH is often Calcium.

Regarding your problem, I recommand to read the page "calcium deficiency" on the website "growweedeasy.com" for good info and tips.

BTW your plant looks really nice too and I'm sure you will get a great harvest. You are really close and even if your plant lose some leaves, bud quality won't be affected much at this stage.

 

[dubi]

@Looking really good and ripening fast under your great cares and 111/13 photoperiod @FeelHaze thanks for the frequent updates, keep up the excellent indoor work!

@LHC I like to work within the 6.5-6.8 ph range when growing in soil. I think the leaves show also some root damage of some sort with those small circles and copper look. Everything must be dialed in when feeding at 2 ec, such levels of nutrients should be reached at the peak of flower production, not during growth. Did the symptoms start to show after any overwatering or lowering down of ec ? A nutrient lockout is also possible.

 

[dubi]

New Year Greetings!!

May your harvests be bountiful & stay blessed.

@dubi Presenting my Diosa Haze 2nd.

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Panama x Bangi was the first ace strain I grew in 2021.

It was absolutely fire. Nothing comes close to it, in my opinion.

Unfortunately I lost the mom plant last year due to a heat wave, after growing it perpetual for almost 2 years

It broke my heart & it was painful not to have it in my garden.

Only solution - Get my hands on more seeds.

Left: Seed plant - vegged longer than usual & into 12/12 since 30th Sept.

Middle: Clone into 12/12 on 26th Oct - stretch a bit more controlled

Right: Bonsai Mother plant in veg which just keeps giving cuttings.

Indoor cabinet - Grown under 12 watt LED.

I feel - this variety is more Bangi Haze dominant. (Not too sure though) - it's lacking the lemony & incensy terps which I absolutely loved about my first plant.

Have 1 more seed left - hope I get lucky with a Panama dominant variety.

Cheers.

Hi @okletsgrow makes me very feel you liked so much the first Panama x Bangi Haze you grew!
It's a very solid F1 with a very high % of winners, so hopefully you find something close or better from this new plant or from the seed you have left.

 

[dubi]

Here’s a big bud that’s around 10 months cured (fridge for 7 months). I’m surprised how strong the lemon terps stick around for. Often those bright smells are first to mellow out. It’s incredible with the franky incenses and cola/anise taste. I thought I’d post this since it’s pretty special for buds to retain so much potency and terps. Reminds me of pure Haze in that way.

It’s great at 3 months, really good snappy sativa and good for getting stuff down in lower doses. At around 6 months it gets pretty psychedelic. Very euphoric and good for stress. A bit dreamy after a good 15-30min soaring rush. No ceiling like haze with no crash…just chill and relaxed. Potency is still up there now and I find it “stronger” and longer lasting than a lot of stuff out there. I find modern hybrids don’t seem to last like this.

Highly recommend this one. I kept a mom I liked and can’t wait to grow her again. I also have a pack of regs that I can throw into the mix. PBH is one of the best in every way.

Thanks for the expanded smoke report after half year curing @Greencedar Comparison with Haze is also much appreciated. Glad harvest is still retaining lots of good terps, improving in effects and that you keep a mum of your taste and a regular pack to explore further the line!