Panama x Bangi Haze

[LHC]

Thank´s for helping me understand @dubi

During stretch I was getting nutrient deficiency, and went all the way up to EC 2.0. When stretch was over, I reduced to around EC 1,4 and kept it there. After a couple of weeks I got burnt tips, and reduced to EC 1 for a couple of feeds, and continued with EC 1.3. During the high feeding, PH runoff was a little high, so I adjusted nutrient solution to pH 6,3.
Checking my notes, the nutrient deficiency developed when I reduced to EC 1.
After I reduced feeding, pH is stable around 6.5-6.7.
Also added cal/mg after stretch was over.
Nutes are biobizz grow/bloom

No over/underwatering.

Oh, and one more thing. I had to run a heating cable around the pot, and that drove temps in the soil up a bit somtimes. It fluctuated between 23-30*C

 

[dubi]

Still have a few more weeks to go, and forecast is for frost next week. Should I harvest early, or can she withstand below freezing night temps?
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Sorry i didn't catch up on time with a reply @TimeP but glad you harvested just a few days after the pictures. The buds were showing mildew on the leaves nearby (hopefully it didn’t reach the flowers) and also some bud rot, so the plant wouldn’t have withstood a longer maturation period in adverse conditions.

 

[dubi]

I'm vaping some now - great stuff. The lemon is strong in the first bag at a lower temp. Effect is strong and uplifting.

So glad to hear it @El Timbo

How is your second run doing @ilovegrowing ?

 

[EggZ]

Hey Team I've been following this forum for a few months now as I'm also growing my first panama x banghi haze.

I let her vege quite dramatically in order to fill my 5x5 it's been 3 weeks since I flipped her and I've been nothing by impressed but this girl. She's taken the training perfectly and eats up any nutes without showing signs of stress.

That's until I spotted what appears to be early browning of her pistils. I quick Google tells me she's been pollinated however I have had her near no pollen.

Before I get ready to raise a pregnancy girl. I thought id reach out to this great forum and see if it's possibly a trait of this magnificent strain.

Thanks for your time.

 

[Old Fogey]

Hey Team I've been following this forum for a few months now as I'm also growing my first panama x banghi haze.

I let her vege quite dramatically in order to fill my 5x5 it's been 3 weeks since I flipped her and I've been nothing by impressed but this girl. She's taken the training perfectly and eats up any nutes without showing signs of stress.

That's until I spotted what appears to be early browning of her pistils. I quick Google tells me she's been pollinated however I have had her near no pollen.

Before I get ready to raise a pregnancy girl. I thought id reach out to this great forum and see if it's possibly a trait of this magnificent strain.

Thanks for your time.

Two other possibilities from my experience. Maybe a nute/ph mistake or, much worse, a sign of fungus gnat infection.

If it's a one off nute/ph injury the plant should recover strongly. If it is fungus gnats attacking the roots, I can recommend BTI for treatment, in particular Water Dispersable Granules used as a drench.

Peace

 

[EggZ]

Two other possibilities from my experience. Maybe a nute/ph mistake or, much worse, a sign of fungus gnat infection.

If it's a one off nute/ph injury the plant should recover strongly. If it is fungus gnats attacking the roots, I can recommend BTI for treatment, in particular Water Dispersable Granules used as a drench.

Peace

I appreciate the quick response dude. I will try the treatment today after picking some up. I feel like it might not be a nutrient thing as the plant as a while looks great. Just the odd budsite where this is occuring.

Pic attached to try show general state of her

 

[Karl_O'Barley]

Hey Team I've been following this forum for a few months now as I'm also growing my first panama x banghi haze.

I let her vege quite dramatically in order to fill my 5x5 it's been 3 weeks since I flipped her and I've been nothing by impressed but this girl. She's taken the training perfectly and eats up any nutes without showing signs of stress.

That's until I spotted what appears to be early browning of her pistils. I quick Google tells me she's been pollinated however I have had her near no pollen.

Before I get ready to raise a pregnancy girl. I thought id reach out to this great forum and see if it's possibly a trait of this magnificent strain.

Thanks for your time.

Could be that it hermed and popped a few lil pollen sacks. Could also be a chance that you touched those pistils while you were training it previously? If I get a lil heavy handed with training during the flowering stretch and bump/touch some pistils they alway look like that a day later and leave me looking for rogue pollen sacks.

 

[EggZ]

Cheers Karl.

This is my first time scrogging indoors and she's really taken up the 5x5 so where I'm seeing the browning is in the vicinity of where I'm leaning in to reach the back of the tent and I have definitely moved those branches to get to others further back so highly possible!

Thanks again!

 

[dubi]

Welcome to ICMag @EggZ and thank you so much for choosing Panama x Bangi Haze (fem i guess) for your current grow!

Our friends here have provided very valid points regarding the early maturation of those lower buds: ph issues, overfeeding, physical damage, .... hopefully it’s not due to fungus or pollination. I hope the rest of the plant is progressing normally without abnormal early maturation. What’s your growing medium, ph, and ec?

 

[FeelHaze]

The flash reveals the frost !

 

[FeelHaze]

Double post ..

 

[LHC]

Delicious @FeelHaze
I am quite certain my plant has Calcium def, but it will reach the finish line for sure.

 

[FeelHaze]

Delicious @FeelHaze
I am quite certain my plant has Calcium def, but it will reach the finish line for sure.

Thanks LHC !
She's getting pretty for sure.

You must be getting close to the goal with yours. Colas looked caked on the last picture you posted.

After drying and trimming the leaves, you'll forget soon enough about the calcium def you had

Enjoy the ripening my friend !

 

[LHC]

Thanks LHC !
She's getting pretty for sure.

You must be getting close to the goal with yours. Colas looked caked on the last picture you posted.

After drying and trimming the leaves, you'll forget soon enough about the calcium def you had

Enjoy the ripening my friend !

Yeah, 66 days now. Ready in a week or so.

 

[EggZ]

Welcome to ICMag @EggZ and thank you so much for choosing Panama x Bangi Haze (fem i guess) for your current grow!

Our friends here have provided very valid points regarding the early maturation of those lower buds: ph issues, overfeeding, physical damage, .... hopefully it’s not due to fungus or pollination. I hope the rest of the plant is progressing normally without abnormal early maturation. What’s your growing medium, ph, and ec?

Appreciate the response @dubi

The plant as a whole had been looking great until around a week ago. It's showing around 5% of the early browning of pistils and a couomw of days ago showed signs of stress on upper fan leaves. Red stems and orange/brown spots on her leaves. She was flipped to 12/12 26 days ago. I'm hoping to get her back to being healthy as my 5x5 is full of this beauty and from reading in this forum she produces a great taste and smoke.

I'm running soil. With a pH just under 7 and feeding an ec of 2.0 at 6.6ph.

 

[Old Fogey]

Appreciate the response @dubi

The plant as a whole had been looking great until around a week ago. It's showing around 5% of the early browning of pistils and a couomw of days ago showed signs of stress on upper fan leaves. Red stems and orange/brown spots on her leaves. She was flipped to 12/12 26 days ago. I'm hoping to get her back to being healthy as my 5x5 is full of this beauty and from reading in this forum she produces a great taste and smoke.

I'm running soil. With a pH just under 7 and feeding an ec of 2.0 at 6.6ph.

Doubtful that it's too late to get her back to healthy flowering. I will leave it to better informed folk to identify your specific problem and offer a solution but I strongly suspect it is related to the ph (too high?) and/or nute ratio (using additives out of sync?) and/or ec levels (too high?) being out of balance for the plant and/or with other components of the grow.

Overall the plant looks strong and capable of bouncing back on track.

Peace

 

[Koondense]

Hi @EggZ ,
the situation with your plant is interesting, I would check more details to get the whole picture.
If you can, check the following:
- both sides of brown spot affected leaves - look at spot borders and fading, maybe pests on bottom side
- which leaves are affected - fans or newer growth, it indicates which elements may lack
- stem and branches - may be pests or eggs, or fungus. Check stem at soil level
- roots - could be a start of all kinds of trouble, mostly fungus or pest related
- feeding and watering regime - it may be too much of something
- air circulation - more fresh air is better, keeps plant metabolism active. Filter your air if you can
etc, etc...
First couple of ideas that pop in mind are leaf septoria and overwatering with high EC buildup, maybe also some pests. What is your relative humidity?
Anyway ,it could also be nothing
I had a few runs with Pangi and some plants just started fading a bit faster, fans died before mid flowering but the end result was still very good.
However if you can tweak some parameters and make them happier, why not try..?
I would personally flush them good and feed with increased Ca+Mg along with a bit extra N and micros.
Or if you're fully organic, make a compost tea, it helps a lot when plants are getting low on life indoors and out.
Keep us posted with the progress.

Cheers

 

[dubi]

Itcould easily be overfeeding if you've been consistently feeding around 2 ec @EggZ this leaves you little room to increase feeding later during peak flower production. What's the rh? Do you notice an increase in rh related to the appearance of brown spots on the leaves? Have you done any foliar feeding or spraying?

 

[FeelHaze]

Hi @LHC and @EggZ

I also have the calcium deficiency in late flower. I mean BADLY.

Like @dubi stated, Pangi really don't like being overfed.

It seems that she don't show signs of burning at the tips even with strong feeding but eventually gets lockout without warning, showing calcium deficiency at first. Well ... thats my experience with her indoor under LED.

If I grow her again, I will certainly feed way lightly and supplement a bit with cal/mag as prevention.

I flushed her and added cal/mag yesterday.

Happy growing

 

[LHC]

Exactly my experience also @FeelHaze
I love the Pangi high, and I will learn to grow her to well.
So next time, less feeding in grow stage.