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I think i (partly) understand the vaccine resistance!

Cuddles

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Covid vax aside... I´ve been meaning to ask my GPs office for a totally different kind of vax booster and I keep forgetting. daft huh?
 

flylowgethigh

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The damn .guv hasn't given a shit about people for a long time, but now they are supposedly concerned for us when they mandate the jab? Screw that.

"(The Spanish Flu) dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools, businesses--even the hospital, as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. We seemed to be the only family which didn’t get the flu; so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick, as it was impossible to get a doctor then. If it were possible for germs, bacteria, virus, or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn’t get the flu, and they didn’t bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu--not even a sniffle--and it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground.

When I see people cringe when someone near them sneezes or coughs, I wonder how long it will take them to find out that they can’t catch it--whatever it is. The only way they can get a disease is to develop it themselves by wrong eating, drinking, smoking or doing some other things which cause internal poisoning and lowered vitality."

(Swine Flu Expose, McBean, 1977)
 

Cannavore

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its easy you just don't know the formula lmfao.

jews/government + bad = super bad

these people are baby brained.
 

JKD

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Up to 65% of all anti-vaccine content online, including up to 73% of Facebooks’ originates from:

1. Joseph M.ercola
2. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
3. Ty and Charlene Bollinger
4. Sherri Tenpenny
5. Rizza Islam
6. Rashid Buttar
7. Erin Elizabeth
8. Sayer Ji
9. Kelly Brogan
10. Christiane Northrup
11. BenTapper
12. Kevin Jenkins

https://252f2edd-1c8b-49f5-9bb2-cb57...8663366ee5.pdf
 
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JKD

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The damn .guv hasn't given a shit about people for a long time, but now they are supposedly concerned for us when they mandate the jab? Screw that.

"(Swine Flu Expose, McBean, 1977)

A different version (follow the links) of the history of Spanish Influenza. Includes references:
  • Background: The deadly legacy of the 1918 pandemic and its importance for global efforts to prepare against future pandemic threats.
  • Part 1 – Discovering a Lost Killer: The story of a virus hunter’s lifelong pursuit to discover the deadliest pandemic flu virus in human history.
  • Part 2 – Building the Blueprint: The story of how a team of U.S. scientists decoded and assembled the genome of the 1918 virus.
  • Part 3 – The Reconstruction: The story of how a CDC microbiologist reconstructed the live 1918 pandemic virus in a secure CDC laboratory to unravel its secrets and protect against future pandemics.
  • Part 4 – Learning from the Past: How the world has progressed since the 1918 pandemic and the challenges posed by future pandemics.
  • References
 

Microbeman

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More evidence that recovery from covid may present a better immune response than vaccine?

A letter to the editor published in The New England Journal of Medicine argues that a single shot of one of the first two COVID-19 vaccines granted emergency use authorization (EUA) might be sufficient to provide immunity to individuals who have previously been infected by the virus. Mount Sinai Hospital–led authors say this could help stretch vaccine supplies if they remain limited. The first two COVID-19 vaccines—mRNA vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna—received EUAs from the FDA in December 2020 and are recommended for two doses. A third product, an adenovirus vector vaccine, Janssen (Johnson & Johnson), got an EUA in February after this study was completed and requires only a single dose.

The study was previously published as a preprint on mdRxiv.

By not having to get the second dose of the mRNA vaccines, researchers point out that recovered COVID-19 patients also would be spared unnecessary side effects, which appear significantly more severe in people with some level of pre-existing immunity.

“We showed that the antibody response to the first vaccine dose in people with pre-existing immunity is equal to or even exceeds the response in uninfected people after the second dose,” explained coauthor Viviana Simon, MD, PhD, professor in the Departments of Microbiology and Medicine (Infectious Diseases) in the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. “For that reason, we believe that a single dose of vaccine is sufficient for people who have already been infected by SARS-CoV-2 to reach immunity.”

In their study of 109 individuals with and without previous SARS-CoV-2 immunity, researchers determined that the first group developed antibodies within days of the first dose of vaccine at a rate 10 to 20 times higher than those who were uninfected, and at a more than tenfold rate after the second dose.

“These findings suggest that a single dose of vaccine elicits a very rapid immune response in individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19,” pointed out coauthor Florian Krammer, PhD, of Mount Sinai. “In fact, that first dose immunologically resembles the booster (second) dose in people who have not been infected.”

Systemic reactions were tested after the first dose of vaccine in a second group of 231 individuals, 83 of whom had tested positive for COVID-19, and 148 who had not.

Researchers found that, while the vaccines were generally well tolerated, injection-site symptoms—including pain, swelling, and reddening of the skin—were identified in both sub-groups. For recipients with pre-existing immunity, however, side effects occurred with a significantly higher frequency, including fatigue, headache, chills, fever, and muscle or joint pain.

In fact, the authors suggest that the intensity of the response to the first dose in people previously infected looks quite similar to the response from those not previously infected after the second dose. Researchers post that the reason for the stronger response in both groups is because immune cells have learned how to recognize the spike protein of the virus—the antigen that forms the basis for vaccination. Response is more vigorous and leads to stronger reactions to the vaccine.

In fact, Dr. Simon suggests using a serological assay to detect antibodies that might exist to the spike protein. “If the screening process determines the presence of antibodies due to previous infection, then a second shot of the coronavirus vaccine may not be necessary for the individual,” she concludes. “And if that approach were to translate into public health policy, it could not only expand limited vaccine supplies, but control the more frequent and pronounced reactions to those vaccines experienced by COVID-19 survivors.”

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article...a-vaccine-dose

AND
https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ases-and-vaccinated-people-are-well-protected
 

Great outdoors

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What gets me about the whole "for muh freedom!" is they want everyone else to respect their freedoms while simultaneously disrespecting everyone else's

Like this fine specimen of freedom respecting douche baggery



Love the old tough guy routine with women and the elderly.
But I would love it even more if this shit went on in my presence. Life lessons would be learned.
 

Great outdoors

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The damn .guv hasn't given a shit about people for a long time, but now they are supposedly concerned for us when they mandate the jab? Screw that.

"(The Spanish Flu) dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools, businesses--even the hospital, as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. We seemed to be the only family which didn’t get the flu; so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick, as it was impossible to get a doctor then. If it were possible for germs, bacteria, virus, or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn’t get the flu, and they didn’t bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu--not even a sniffle--and it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground.

When I see people cringe when someone near them sneezes or coughs, I wonder how long it will take them to find out that they can’t catch it--whatever it is. The only way they can get a disease is to develop it themselves by wrong eating, drinking, smoking or doing some other things which cause internal poisoning and lowered vitality."

(Swine Flu Expose, McBean, 1977)

😂
Darwinism at it's best.

Best fun fact, the Spanish flu actually began in the USA.
 

moose eater

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Alabama reports as of this morning that they've run out of places to stash bodies from the COVID death toll there.

"Sweet home Alabama"?

Reminder to self; Ignorance is NOT bliss.
 

Cannavore

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wittle baby military veteran snowflake melts down and starts calling people ni**ers and threatening violence in miami dade airport over mask mandates or something covid related.


"angry men in combat fatigues talking to God on a two-way radio and muttering incoherent slogans about freedom are eventually going to provide us with a great deal of entertainment, especially after your stupid f*cking economy collapses all around you and the terrorists come out of the woodwork" - george carlin in 1999
 

flylowgethigh

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Alabama reports as of this morning that they've run out of places to stash bodies from the COVID death toll there.

"Sweet home Alabama"?

Reminder to self; Ignorance is NOT bliss.

That is the kind of lies the tee vee is reporting?, and you are foolish enough to not only fall for it, but to blow any credibility you had posting it? The guvenor down there won't get re-elected, as she was a mask nazi.
 

moose eater

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That is the kind of lies the tee vee is reporting, and you are foolish enough to not only fall for it, but to blow any credibility you had posting it?

Yeah, because hundreds of thousands of doctors around the world have ALL conspired to engage in a rouse of treating a virus that doesn't exist, doesn't kill people, and more. Right?

Kinda' like ALL of Australia is locked down and facing insurmountable tyranny, right?

And you think I'M gullible??!! Christ almighty!!

The report didn't come from the 'tee-vee', by the way.

But if those who see fit to deny the reality of these circumstances, if only due to paranoia and because the reality is too frightening, causing them to dress it up in verifiable delusions, then so be it. To each their own. but those who are actively refusing to distance and mask, thereby infecting others, are committing nothing shy of an assault on their fellow humans, who ought to react accordingly, in my opinion. I do, and will continue to do so.
 
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flylowgethigh

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I just talked with a guy in Alabama. No masks (even in places like walmart or supermarkets), no increase in the number of funerals, no full hospitals or funeral homes.

Wherever you are getting the hysteria from, it is a lie.
 

armedoldhippy

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yet another grand family story brought down by the history books - there WERE no "spanish flu vaccine" holdouts, because there were no vaccines for the flu until 1942 (22 years later), and then only for military personnel. history is SUCH a buzz-killer, lol.
 

armedoldhippy

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Alabama reports as of this morning that they've run out of places to stash bodies from the COVID death toll there.

"Sweet home Alabama"?

Reminder to self; Ignorance is NOT bliss.

ditto Florida. when did The Chump say it was going to "magically disappear? after he is "reinstated" as Pope i guess, lol. why stop at POTUS or Pope? why not shoot for God? LOL! they already have a Golden Statue made that, if anything, is even uglier than he is. i know, that's hard to believe...
 

moose eater

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ditto Florida. when did The Chump say it was going to "magically disappear? after he is "reinstated" as Pope i guess, lol. why stop at POTUS or Pope? why not shoot for God? LOL! they already have a Golden Statue made that, if anything, is even uglier than he is. i know, that's hard to believe...

I don't know when or if it will disappear. Some viruses vanish after X number of mutations, or changes in conditions (*one such instance occurred in remote Brazil some years back, with a virus that was killing, primarily, children; my PC Doc is from there).

But I do know that those who aren't doing their part are helping to keep it thriving, and, at least for now, with karma running closer to righteousness re. COVID mortality than during pre-vaccine days, at least the right motherfuckers are the predominant numbers in the growing mortality counts. So maybe there -is- a God?
 

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