Tobacco price

[PetePrice]

Easy don't go it's Ryanair and usually bout 40 euros

 

[GMT]

Tobacco Products Duty

Find out if you need to pay Tobacco Products Duty if you make or import tobacco, how much it is and when you can suspend or defer payment.

www.gov.uk

You can import loose leaves duty free, but once you cut them up, you owe the govt £412 per kg.
Whether they actually chase this I have no idea. I like the idea of a Dublin run, anyone know the price of loose baccy, ideally American spirit or any of the chem free brands, in Ireland duty free?? Bound to have a duty free area in the airport? So that saves pissing about.

 

[GainesvilleGreen]

It's 7 dollars a pack around here. Guess it's because of the southern east coast.

 

[PetePrice]

The amber leaf is bout 70 euros per 250g over there... I know riverstone is much cheaper but not sure if chem free.

 

[ahortator]

The penalty for growing weed is less than the penalty for growing tobacco here. It's considered tax evasion, which they throw the book at you for. Frankly it's better to grow more weed and sell it to pay the tax to the govt. from a penalty point of view. I also don't have 3 years to cure the stuff. Think of how big a stash you'd need to get through 3 years worth of smoking.

Legally you can bring back 2kg ie. 2000g of duty free tobacco into the UK.

2000g divided by 30g packs is 66.6 packs.
66.6 packs times £27.30 is £1,818.18.

In Andorra the price is €27.70 per 200g.
€ to £ conversion is £0.86 per euro.
So that's €27.70 times £0.86 = £ 23.82 per 200g
Or £238.20 per 2kg.

£1,818.18 minus £238.20 equals a legal saving of £1,579.98.
Flight cost (cheapest day return with a few hours for transport, and getting there in time for flights etc is less than £200. Let's say another £100 for taxis and tips, that's a travel cost of £300 all in.

£1580 minus £300 still leaves a saving of nearly £1300 per trip. With the added benefit of a day out, and putting two fingers up to the chancellor.

I'm telling you, UK smokers need to organise ourselves for a day out.

Total cost less than £550, total saving well over £1,200.

The same happened here while the tobacco industry was a state monopoly for centuries. But now the business is privatized and they allowed a French company along the government. So I have been told that you can grow for yourself.
People usually buy tobacco in Gibraltar which is almost duty free. Unless they make you pay in the custom when you come back. But it is still cheaper than buyimg it here.

 

[GMT]

What an irony, I'm trying to escape British govt tax and you're going to British territory to get it duty free.

 

[Cuddles]

This is ridiculous now. Sainsbury's are charging £27.30 for 30g of tobacco. This is unaffordable for most of us, esp since I smoke 15g a day. There must be an alternative to this madness. I'm just venting here, but what would they do if they lost all that tax revenue and we all actually quit like they say they want us to? How much would they have to put income tax up by to replace that income? It's like petrol is 90% tax, what would they do if everyone actually moved to electric cars?

Check this out, 200g in Andorra is cheaper that 30g in UK

Pueblo 200G

www.les1000pipes.com

Trouble is they won't ship it, you have to go there. We need group day trips organising. Flights are pricey, and no idea how far out airports etc are. There has to be something we can do though to shove this tax back up the chancellor's arse.

Ideas? Anyone, anyone? Bueller?

Sainsbury's are charging £27.30 for 30g of tobacco.

You wot?????? This is utterly insane!!! I pay a little over 5 EUR over here and I´m complaining too ! I use way more than you per day but still...
Nobody can afford this! If they ie the government(s) really want people to quit backy smoking then perhaps they ought to offer free therapy to help people give it up, right? Do they? No.
But they don´t mind polluting the air with car exhaust fumes whilst driving around in expensive cars...
They´re all hypocrits. Always have been and always will be.

If it weren´t for brexit I could send you a few ounces, lol

 

[GMT]

Sainsbury's are charging £27.30 for 30g of tobacco.

You wot?????? This is utterly insane!!! I pay a little over 5 EUR over here and I´m complaining too !

If it weren´t for brexit I could send you a few ounces, lol

Send me your passport I'll send you mine. I'll put on a wig and a dress, get yourself a false beard and we can both get it duty free locally .

 

[goingrey]

As a Cdn senior trying to live on a pension I found buying tobacco leaves from https://www.leafonly.com/index.php is an option. They ship world wide.

Leaves are considered unprocessed and not subject to the normal cigarette/tobacco taxes !

Less than $20 Cdn for a pound of leaves, I remove the stems and shred them myself.

Shredder is ~$175

Some silliness.....

As I understand it the Canadian Virginia flue cured tobacco is grown in BC, wholesaled by a company in Sask and shipped to a retailer in the states.

Then I purchase it and it is shipped back to Canada

The shipping on 12 lbs of leaves is a whopping $132 Cdn but total cost is ~$450 and will last me 5 - 6 months !

Store bought shredded tobacco is ~ $400/month !

Cheers

That's so cool. Seems like the premium option not the cheaper one, but is actually cheaper.

 

[Cuddles]

I was driving 100 miles roundtrip to buy tax free cartons at an indigenous reserve before I finally quit in the fall. The huge tax savings easily paid for the gas - which I could also buy tax free on the reserve. Technically, it was only for the indigenous but they did a whopping business selling to anybody & everybody . . . With a casino just down the road and a Tim Horton's coffee shop . . .

Some reserves also do great business selling grey market cannabis as well but unfortunately not the closest one . . .

wow, you actually managed to quit? well done and good for you!
How did you actually manage give up? I´ve been trying for ages but all I managed was to start rolling intead of buying regular fags.
Well, at least I´m saving money lol.

 

[Tynehead Tom]

I was driving 100 miles roundtrip to buy tax free cartons at an indigenous reserve before I finally quit in the fall. The huge tax savings easily paid for the gas - which I could also buy tax free on the reserve. Technically, it was only for the indigenous but they did a whopping business selling to anybody & everybody . . . With a casino just down the road and a Tim Horton's coffee shop . . .

Some reserves also do great business selling grey market cannabis as well but unfortunately not the closest one . . .

The Indigenous tobacco industry in Canada has launched a coordinated website that brings the offerings of the traditional tobacco families to Canadians, tax free. Cartons are as low as 55.00 bucks. They have grape and cherry cigarillos as well. I am hoping they will offer pipe tobacco at some point as the website has a section for it but no products yet. All the popular brands of Indigenous grown and processed tobacco are availlable on the site. I don't smoke cigarettes anymore.... been 8 or 9 years since I quit a pack n a half a day habit. I still bum the odd smoke from my brother or sister when I visit but otherwise I smoke pipe tobacco when I get the urge. I enjoy it while ice fishing or relaxing after a hard day hunting.
I haven't checked prices of regular taxed tobacco lately other than a glance at a pouch of pipe tobacco at the local Vape store. 65.00 ...... I didn;t buy any.
I was ordering tobacco from 4noggins.com and prices were fantastic if the package sneaks thru customs unopened..... but if the CBSA gets ahold of it they apply an 80% tax/surcharge....... 80% LOL
Canada sucks balls in a lot of ways by taxing the crap out of anything we enjoy as a luxury..... look at the recent 4% + hike on booze. Canadians are getting assphucked hard by the taxman LOL

 

[Cuddles]

The Indigenous tobacco industry in Canada has launched a coordinated website that brings the offerings of the traditional tobacco families to Canadians, tax free. Cartons are as low as 55.00 bucks. They have grape and cherry cigarillos as well. I am hoping they will offer pipe tobacco at some point as the website has a section for it but no products yet. All the popular brands of Indigenous grown and processed tobacco are availlable on the site. I don't smoke cigarettes anymore.... been 8 or 9 years since I quit a pack n a half a day habit. I still bum the odd smoke from my brother or sister when I visit but otherwise I smoke pipe tobacco when I get the urge. I enjoy it while ice fishing or relaxing after a hard day hunting.
I haven't checked prices of regular taxed tobacco lately other than a glance at a pouch of pipe tobacco at the local Vape store. 65.00 ...... I didn;t buy any.
I was ordering tobacco from 4noggins.com and prices were fantastic if the package sneaks thru customs unopened..... but if the CBSA gets ahold of it they apply an 80% tax/surcharge....... 80% LOL
Canada sucks balls in a lot of ways by taxing the crap out of anything we enjoy as a luxury..... look at the recent 4% + hike on booze. Canadians are getting assphucked hard by the taxman LOL

just remembered that there is some EU-Canada free trade agreement but I bet you anything that it don´t include backy. Would like to try some of the stuff you mention.
I only smoke the mild stuff though.

 

[foomar]

They have nice flowers too.
Easy to grow but seeds are like dust and can be a bitch to germinate , suggest pelleted seed as so much easier and still cheep.
Weed costs me less per ounce than the baccy i smoke it with

 

[woolybear]

Luckily I never got addicted to the baccy, but I remember when you could buy dodgy cartons from like Russia online in the late 90s. I did this a couple of times and sold the packs to my m8s, they said it was fine. Probably under $20

That leaf shop is pretty cool!

 

[Cuddles]

Luckily I never got addicted to the baccy, but I remember when you could buy dodgy cartons from like Russia online in the late 90s. I did this a couple of times and sold the packs to my m8s, they said it was fine.

That leaf shop is pretty cool!

how did you get those through customs?

 

[Ringodoggie]

When I was a kid, my folks owned a 'Mom and Pop' store and we had a cigarette machine in it. It held four brands. All non-filter (filtered cigs had not been invented yet. Yes, I am as old as dirt.) Lucky Strike, Chesterfield, Camel and Kool as I recall.

The machine took a quarter but a pack of cigarettes was only 23 cents. So, it was my job to scotch tape 2 pennies to each pack before loading the packs into the machine.

I live in SoCal right now and I saw an ad on a gas station the other day that said, Marlboro... SALE ... $150.00 a carton. Wow. I smoked 2 packs a day most of my life but I quite 20 years ago before the prices went insane. I think the most I ever paid was about 5 bux a pack.

20 years ago (maybe more) I started substituting joints whenever I wanted a cigarette. So now.... I smoke 20 joints a day.

 

[woolybear]

how did you get those through customs?

It was the 90's, just ordered online and they were mailed to me. Must've been like $30 or so a carton, maybe less. This is a very old memory that was awakened by this thread!

I remember checking the packs, they were made in like uzbekistan or thereabouts but they smoked fine. They probably clamped down on it shortly after as we only did it a couple of times.

 

[Mithridate]

Found this while renovating a house...

That is all.

 

[tobedetermined]

wow, you actually managed to quit? well done and good for you!
How did you actually manage give up? I´ve been trying for ages but all I managed was to start rolling intead of buying regular fags.
Well, at least I´m saving money lol.

I was actually surprised at how easy it was for me. I used patches that we got free in some stop smoking pack that my wife ordered. She used the lozenges and two months after her success, I used the patches.

 

[ahortator]

They have nice flowers too.
Easy to grow but seeds are like dust and can be a bitch to germinate , suggest pelleted seed as so much easier and still cheep.
Weed costs me less per ounce than the baccy i smoke it with


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If they are fresh, they are very easy to germinate. The trick is they need sunlight to sprout and constant humidity. Just place the pot bottom inside a dish with water, and sprinkle the seeds on the surface of the soil without covering them.