Hey all! Been a while since I been on the forum scene. Grew as a hobby about 10 years ago when I was young and dumb. Picked it back up because I realized even now 10 years later I'm still young and dumb!
Anyways onto the search for the holy grail. But first some backstory...
When I got back into growing about a year ago, I stumbled onto some really special strains in my research. They are strains that are known for having mutated leaf types. They are:
Freakshow, ABC, and Ducksfoot.
Over the years, the canna community has worked these strains a bit more, improving on the originial low-THC varieties. Fortunately for me, I got back into growing at the perfect time (seed availability) to be able to acquire these genetics, which others have graciously worked with to improve. Back in the day I had heard of the Ducksfoot strain but it was incredibly difficult to attain because of the way customs was back then. Flash forward to today and these are the strains which I have the true joy and pleasure of working with:
Supafreak (Freakshow BX6) by Humboldt Seed Company- I have 2 females, 1 male, and 17 seeds left if I need them. I prize my male because he showed sex first of the 3.
Drunken Bastard F3 by 7 East Genetics - I have 4 seedlings currently going, with 20 more seeds (this is ABC strain with purple flowers and 21-26% THC)
BerryFreak F3 By CannaResearchCo - I was fortunate to get this female out of 12 seeds she was the only one who germinated. Don't have any seeds left for this strain.
Duckweb IBL by Olympic Seeds - I have 4 seedlings and 8 more seeds to sprout if I need
Imperium X (fem) by Anesia Seeds - 1 female I kept out of the 5 seeds I started. Never had a purple strain before her and she's absolutely beautiful to grow.
GTR by Aficionado French Connection - I have 2 females, 1 leaning towards G6 Jet-fuel mom and the other seems to imitate the father. I also have 9 more seeds to sprout if I need to.
Blueberry Muffin F9 by Humboldt Seed Company - I have 3 regular seedlings and a mutant. The mutant does seem to be growing so I may have gotten lucky and gotten something interesting to work with! Hopefully it turns out male.
Onto the purpose of this thread: I made this thread so I have a place to show the world what I'm working on, and collaborate with other breeders. I am interested in possibly chucking pollen on some of my girls if there are requests for it. I have thrown around the idea of creating a blog website and going that route but I have a feeling I will connect with more people this way. As a side note, whenever I talk about breeding strains together, I will ALWAYS put the male in the first place. I'm not being sexist or anything that's just the way I've decided to do it.
For example... ( Drunken Bastard F3 male x BerryFreak F3 female ) x ( Supafreak BX6 male x Drunken Bastard F3 female ) .... might be shortened to look something like this....
(DB/BF) x (SF/DB). I used this as an example because this is the cross I intend to make. I will then take the F1 seeds and select the perfect pair to breed together to create F2s. In theory, because both leaf-traits are recessive, there is a possibility that the mutations combine to form a different, new leaf mutation. This is assuming that both recessive traits can coexist. From what I've read the Ducksfoot lineage does not combine with ABC, so that's not really encouraging. Either way, there should be mutant offspring in the F2 generation that are both ABC-pheno or BF-pheno, and the rare chance they combine for something new. In theory one out of every 16 F2 seeds sprouted should show something strange. Assuming one strain doesn't assert complete dominance. In the F2 generation I'm looking for a female from ABC and BF which both show purple flowers and have ideal growth patterns. Blueberry terps, good THC, calyx ratio, yield, pest resist, yada yada. Of course I'm looking for the holy grail of both sides of the cross.
(DB/BF) - I will select the best Drunken Bastard male I can grow. Honestly I may only have 1 or 2 to work with for now though due to it's insanely long germ/growth rates. Either way, the short stout nature Bastard will get crossed to my BerryFreak female. She seems to grow quite apical. When topped she does form side branching but once those grow out it still continues to grow apical-style. I think the blend of these two will produce a good father plant for the F2 seeds. I'm looking for a male with purple coloring on his big resinous pollen sacs before he drops, and the most important thing I think will be an apical style growth pattern.
(SF/DB) - Fingers crossed that 1/4 of the DB seeds I sprouted is a purple-pheno female like advertised on their site. If not I will have to continue the search and take much much longer to find the purple female needed in this cross. Even if I get a purple male I'm not entirely sure he will pass that trait on, but if I find a female I will know for sure 100% that the purple alleles are in the genome pool. My SF male grows compact and short, with really small leaves for a Freakshow plant. I selected this one because he showed his sex before the ladies did, and apparently this new Supafreak has a flowering time of only 40 days. I hope my male passes on genetics for faster flowering, mostly. The select mother plant for F2s will be purple and fast flowering. Those are the only 2 criteria I want from the female side. If yield, structure, and all the other good traits come along too then even better.
I have several other crosses I would like to make, but that one will take priority over the others. At least for the time being. I may change my mind in the future depending how much I like the strains I'm working with now. For the record, I have not had the joy of tasting blueberry bud in almost 20 years so I'm pretty excited for Blueberry Muffin. I've never really been able to enjoy a true sour diesel strain either, so I'm excited for GTR. Additionally, I've never sampled mutant weed before so I'm super super excited for my Freakshow plants.
Anyways, onto the plant porn for everyone to enjoy!
Anyways onto the search for the holy grail. But first some backstory...
When I got back into growing about a year ago, I stumbled onto some really special strains in my research. They are strains that are known for having mutated leaf types. They are:
Freakshow, ABC, and Ducksfoot.
Over the years, the canna community has worked these strains a bit more, improving on the originial low-THC varieties. Fortunately for me, I got back into growing at the perfect time (seed availability) to be able to acquire these genetics, which others have graciously worked with to improve. Back in the day I had heard of the Ducksfoot strain but it was incredibly difficult to attain because of the way customs was back then. Flash forward to today and these are the strains which I have the true joy and pleasure of working with:
Supafreak (Freakshow BX6) by Humboldt Seed Company- I have 2 females, 1 male, and 17 seeds left if I need them. I prize my male because he showed sex first of the 3.
Drunken Bastard F3 by 7 East Genetics - I have 4 seedlings currently going, with 20 more seeds (this is ABC strain with purple flowers and 21-26% THC)
BerryFreak F3 By CannaResearchCo - I was fortunate to get this female out of 12 seeds she was the only one who germinated. Don't have any seeds left for this strain.
Duckweb IBL by Olympic Seeds - I have 4 seedlings and 8 more seeds to sprout if I need
Imperium X (fem) by Anesia Seeds - 1 female I kept out of the 5 seeds I started. Never had a purple strain before her and she's absolutely beautiful to grow.
GTR by Aficionado French Connection - I have 2 females, 1 leaning towards G6 Jet-fuel mom and the other seems to imitate the father. I also have 9 more seeds to sprout if I need to.
Blueberry Muffin F9 by Humboldt Seed Company - I have 3 regular seedlings and a mutant. The mutant does seem to be growing so I may have gotten lucky and gotten something interesting to work with! Hopefully it turns out male.
Onto the purpose of this thread: I made this thread so I have a place to show the world what I'm working on, and collaborate with other breeders. I am interested in possibly chucking pollen on some of my girls if there are requests for it. I have thrown around the idea of creating a blog website and going that route but I have a feeling I will connect with more people this way. As a side note, whenever I talk about breeding strains together, I will ALWAYS put the male in the first place. I'm not being sexist or anything that's just the way I've decided to do it.
For example... ( Drunken Bastard F3 male x BerryFreak F3 female ) x ( Supafreak BX6 male x Drunken Bastard F3 female ) .... might be shortened to look something like this....
(DB/BF) x (SF/DB). I used this as an example because this is the cross I intend to make. I will then take the F1 seeds and select the perfect pair to breed together to create F2s. In theory, because both leaf-traits are recessive, there is a possibility that the mutations combine to form a different, new leaf mutation. This is assuming that both recessive traits can coexist. From what I've read the Ducksfoot lineage does not combine with ABC, so that's not really encouraging. Either way, there should be mutant offspring in the F2 generation that are both ABC-pheno or BF-pheno, and the rare chance they combine for something new. In theory one out of every 16 F2 seeds sprouted should show something strange. Assuming one strain doesn't assert complete dominance. In the F2 generation I'm looking for a female from ABC and BF which both show purple flowers and have ideal growth patterns. Blueberry terps, good THC, calyx ratio, yield, pest resist, yada yada. Of course I'm looking for the holy grail of both sides of the cross.
(DB/BF) - I will select the best Drunken Bastard male I can grow. Honestly I may only have 1 or 2 to work with for now though due to it's insanely long germ/growth rates. Either way, the short stout nature Bastard will get crossed to my BerryFreak female. She seems to grow quite apical. When topped she does form side branching but once those grow out it still continues to grow apical-style. I think the blend of these two will produce a good father plant for the F2 seeds. I'm looking for a male with purple coloring on his big resinous pollen sacs before he drops, and the most important thing I think will be an apical style growth pattern.
(SF/DB) - Fingers crossed that 1/4 of the DB seeds I sprouted is a purple-pheno female like advertised on their site. If not I will have to continue the search and take much much longer to find the purple female needed in this cross. Even if I get a purple male I'm not entirely sure he will pass that trait on, but if I find a female I will know for sure 100% that the purple alleles are in the genome pool. My SF male grows compact and short, with really small leaves for a Freakshow plant. I selected this one because he showed his sex before the ladies did, and apparently this new Supafreak has a flowering time of only 40 days. I hope my male passes on genetics for faster flowering, mostly. The select mother plant for F2s will be purple and fast flowering. Those are the only 2 criteria I want from the female side. If yield, structure, and all the other good traits come along too then even better.
I have several other crosses I would like to make, but that one will take priority over the others. At least for the time being. I may change my mind in the future depending how much I like the strains I'm working with now. For the record, I have not had the joy of tasting blueberry bud in almost 20 years so I'm pretty excited for Blueberry Muffin. I've never really been able to enjoy a true sour diesel strain either, so I'm excited for GTR. Additionally, I've never sampled mutant weed before so I'm super super excited for my Freakshow plants.
Anyways, onto the plant porn for everyone to enjoy!
The aromas are exactly as described on the website. The 2 phenos I have are very similar in terms of aroma. It's fruity smelling, with a slight hint of chem/skunk in there but very subtle. The BerryFreak on the other hand smells exactly like berries. For some odd reason even though they both smell really good, the BerryFreak seems to be a bit louder. The leaves are completely coated with trichomes on all 3 freaks. Soooo excited to sample these in about a month!
