This site was meant to be bring a community of growers together. This thread is meant to antagonise a part of that group. I will say my peace and quit posting in the thread. Religious debate has been tried and failed on this site. The issue is too contraversial. Please do not insult a group of peoples intelligence by saying that a person they hold in reverence is a zombie. That is just like LEO calling everyone that smokes cannabis is a dope smokin lunatic degenerate hippie. I will be the one to stand up for my beliefs and contend for my faith. I encourage others to stand up for their beliefs and not to impinge on others and ridicule their faith. I apologise but threads like this always piss me off. If you don't like christians muslims atheists etc go find the appropriate web site and join it. As for me I love this community, I like being a part of it, but I am ashamed of the hate I see in it sometimes.
I think he was only a zombie for a little while, fucking schooled that doubting Thomas and then teleported to a cloud and harp if I remember my Sunday school.
Insulting peoples intelligence is stating publicly that your faith is TRUTH or INTELLIGENCE as opposed to FAITH.
Please don't confuse your belief with the rest of the worlds lack of intelligence. We are a community of growers, as you stated and this thread is irrelevant to growing in the same way that any other person's beliefs should be irrelevant to you and your beliefs.
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Thomas Jefferson.
As I said you two are way too sensitive, especially for being from the powered majority.