Zamaldelica in the bushes by the Danube
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If you use 2 inches of hay mulch you can save water! Plus the plants love the extra microbe population that accumulates in the cooler temps in the soil. Mulching every plant is important to me.
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If you use 2 inches of hay mulch you can save water! Plus the plants love the extra microbe population that accumulates in the cooler temps in the soil. Mulching every plant is important to me.
Hello Yoss33!
I'm glad to subscribe to another of your grow threads. Your threads has been some of my favorites year after year for several reasons. You seem to enjoy the type of highs that I like which tend to come from sativas. You document your grows so well, have well written smoke reports, take great pictures, and you successfully push the limits of exotic sativas in northern latitudes. There is a lot to like.
Your choice to grow Zamaldelica is telling. You seem to keep returning to Thai, Haze, and Zamaldelica despite your description of how some of them can be. You wrote "I hope both Zamaldelicas now have such great clear, sharp and functional high, and not the Malawi zombification". This dense/dark Malawi influence was my experience with the first Zamaldelica I grew. The good one must have been really good if you are still smoking it, and growing others. Very good to hear that. Others seem to report of individuals with exceptional highs. I need to sprout more of those seeds and find one. I thought enough of it to keep a significant stash of seeds of them. Thanks to Dubi for helping and encouraging that. Loving how your Zamaldelica #3 is looking. I hope you find a great one.
I have one question. Have you ever tried Kali Mist? If so, I'd like to hear what you think? A friend shared a cutting of one and my first test of it was good. I crossed it with my Bangi Haze cross. It is my sativa "stretch the limits" plant this year.
Best of luck with your grow this year. Looking forward to your next update.
ThaiBliss
I'm glad to subscribe to another of your grow threads. Your threads has been some of my favorites year after year for several reasons. You seem to enjoy the type of highs that I like which tend to come from sativas. You document your grows so well, have well written smoke reports, take great pictures, and you successfully push the limits of exotic sativas in northern latitudes. There is a lot to like.
Your choice to grow Zamaldelica is telling. You seem to keep returning to Thai, Haze, and Zamaldelica despite your description of how some of them can be. You wrote "I hope both Zamaldelicas now have such great clear, sharp and functional high, and not the Malawi zombification". This dense/dark Malawi influence was my experience with the first Zamaldelica I grew. The good one must have been really good if you are still smoking it, and growing others. Very good to hear that. Others seem to report of individuals with exceptional highs. I need to sprout more of those seeds and find one. I thought enough of it to keep a significant stash of seeds of them. Thanks to Dubi for helping and encouraging that. Loving how your Zamaldelica #3 is looking. I hope you find a great one.
I have one question. Have you ever tried Kali Mist? If so, I'd like to hear what you think? A friend shared a cutting of one and my first test of it was good. I crossed it with my Bangi Haze cross. It is my sativa "stretch the limits" plant this year.
Best of luck with your grow this year. Looking forward to your next update.
ThaiBliss
@yoss33,sorry if I intervene in your tread,
@Thaibliss,Zamaldelica is a bit 'unpredictable, the first time I grew it I got the pheno malawi and I was disappointed a bit', however I decided to plant the rest of the seeds, just to have my f2 in the collection, and among these I found the pheno thai / zamal ...
sometimes it's just luck ....
@Thaibliss,Zamaldelica is a bit 'unpredictable, the first time I grew it I got the pheno malawi and I was disappointed a bit', however I decided to plant the rest of the seeds, just to have my f2 in the collection, and among these I found the pheno thai / zamal ...
sometimes it's just luck ....
My most recent Zamaldelica has not been trippy at all but super clear/sharp and positive. I really was expecting a more full on experience but it's been really different. I was hoping for a trippy pheno but have been happy with how it's turned out as I have a Panama/Malawi that's been giving me some shroomy depths of introspection and astral spasms I also did not expect!
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Nice show!
Thank you, people!
xet and Creeperpark, thanks for the mulch advice! Since it was hard to find real hay around the place (it's all nettle and shrubs), I brought what I had at hand - a few lumps of freshly cut grass that I removed from the trimmer when mowing part of my property. I mow it regularly, and what I get are these juicy lumps of very finely cut and beaten grasses. I made a thin sparse layer of them around the base of Zam#3, soon I might bring more mulch, but I don't want to cover it completely and stop seeing how/where water drains.
Hey, ThaiBliss, welcome in this year's thread, man!
I haven't (knowingly) smoked Kali Mist (Western Winds), I've only heard good things about this hybrid and was actually following your grow last year, curious what your final words would be.
I too find Zamaldelica (at least the 2013 version) inconsistent about the types of effects. If I had only one seed to grow, and I counted on it for my stash, I would be very hesitant to grow Zamaldelica - the "Malawi" effects are not what I want and the chances for strong Malawi influence are about 30%, and moderate Malawi influence - another 20%. But if you feel lucky, or play with higher number of plants, I would highly recommend Zamaldelica, as there are great (and even greater) phenos - some just focused, energetic and functional, to others that are focused, energetic and strangely wicked (trippy).
The functional phenos are not far away from a quality Bangi Haze pheno, typical great focused and clear African high, yet Zamaldelica tends to have more depth and dimensions. The price is only 2 more weeks of flowering
xet and Creeperpark, thanks for the mulch advice! Since it was hard to find real hay around the place (it's all nettle and shrubs), I brought what I had at hand - a few lumps of freshly cut grass that I removed from the trimmer when mowing part of my property. I mow it regularly, and what I get are these juicy lumps of very finely cut and beaten grasses. I made a thin sparse layer of them around the base of Zam#3, soon I might bring more mulch, but I don't want to cover it completely and stop seeing how/where water drains.
Hey, ThaiBliss, welcome in this year's thread, man!
I haven't (knowingly) smoked Kali Mist (Western Winds), I've only heard good things about this hybrid and was actually following your grow last year, curious what your final words would be.I too find Zamaldelica (at least the 2013 version) inconsistent about the types of effects. If I had only one seed to grow, and I counted on it for my stash, I would be very hesitant to grow Zamaldelica - the "Malawi" effects are not what I want and the chances for strong Malawi influence are about 30%, and moderate Malawi influence - another 20%. But if you feel lucky, or play with higher number of plants, I would highly recommend Zamaldelica, as there are great (and even greater) phenos - some just focused, energetic and functional, to others that are focused, energetic and strangely wicked (trippy).
The functional phenos are not far away from a quality Bangi Haze pheno, typical great focused and clear African high, yet Zamaldelica tends to have more depth and dimensions. The price is only 2 more weeks of flowering
A few photos of Zam#3, which had fallen to its side during a hail storm (with little damage from hail stones) about 10 days ago. I visited the place 2 days afterwards, and the plant's top had reoriented vertically (while the plant was laying), a curve that still hasn't straightened:
The plant is happy and vigorous, closing me in height:
The plant is happy and vigorous, closing me in height:
Am haved Zamaldelica at 45.5 North and she never suceed to finish flowering..
maybe in heated greenhouse she will finish but this was outdoor..
they growed huge,4+ meter but in late November they started to flower properly and
could sees some bud,but airy,still they needed like 6-7 week to finish..
and a weather here is cruel so i needed to cut them down..
maybe in heated greenhouse she will finish but this was outdoor..
they growed huge,4+ meter but in late November they started to flower properly and
could sees some bud,but airy,still they needed like 6-7 week to finish..
and a weather here is cruel so i needed to cut them down..
You are going to have some stunning beasts on your hands yoss!
Hello, people!
Hey, DogStar, it's a bit surprising that your Zamaldelica plants started to flower properly in November, when they should have been ready for harvest. In my experience, the earliest Zamal phenos start to flower as early as the end of August, the other ones follow in the beginning of September. And they all enter flower mode quickly, not like the tropical sativas that look "just beginning to flower" for more than a month.
We are having a rainy start of summer, unlike the dry spring. The plants have been soaked in water the last 2 weeks.
Zam#3 is already as big as I planned it to be, and it has about 2 more months of vegging. If the summer continues this way, it's gonna be a monster.
Hey, DogStar, it's a bit surprising that your Zamaldelica plants started to flower properly in November, when they should have been ready for harvest. In my experience, the earliest Zamal phenos start to flower as early as the end of August, the other ones follow in the beginning of September. And they all enter flower mode quickly, not like the tropical sativas that look "just beginning to flower" for more than a month.
We are having a rainy start of summer, unlike the dry spring. The plants have been soaked in water the last 2 weeks.
Zam#3 is already as big as I planned it to be, and it has about 2 more months of vegging. If the summer continues this way, it's gonna be a monster.
wooooow! Amazing plants!
in my experience with zamaldelica,one plant(zamal-thai pheno)was started to flowering at mid june,the rest at the end of july,and finish at end november...
You wil have a great psichedelic moments with this ladies.....believe me
Ps,after 4-5 month,Zamaldelica give the best....
in my experience with zamaldelica,one plant(zamal-thai pheno)was started to flowering at mid june,the rest at the end of july,and finish at end november...
You wil have a great psichedelic moments with this ladies.....believe me
Ps,after 4-5 month,Zamaldelica give the best....
Its not weird,and i thinked in November they started to fatten buds
a bit so you could sees some shape of bud... but still they needed
like 5-6 weeks to finish and in that time climate here becomes
really harsh with minus temps,frosts,lot of humid..
i dont root for your unsucess,i just give you mine experiences
with Zamaldelicas at 45.5 North and 16 parallele..
Zamaldelicas are better for tropical,subtropical climates,there they can finish proper,here North there is no enough of sun and warm
for them..
Our area is best for afghanis,indy-sativa polyhybrids.. they grow
good and finish right in time before weather dont go too much
extreme.. am not sure for Zamaldelica fast phenos as i was grow
pheno that is 16-18 weeks..
Kind regards Yoss
Hi guys, and thanks for the nice words
Out of the 8 females of this same pack of seeds that have been grown by me and friends in previous seasons, none has started real flowering before the middle of August (most start in the first days of September), and none needed to flower later than the end of November (most are done in the end of October). In my book, Zamaldelica is pretty reliable for our climate with its usually dry autumn (which might not be true for everywhere at 45 degrees north), it's much faster than the true equatorial strains and I'm actually more worried about it starting to flower too early (the Zamal semi-autoflowering phenos) than it finishing too late. And the reason why I don't like early flowering is that we have lots of wild hemp around which pollinates every flower that has dared to sprout in August. I'm completely unable to grow early flowering strains like White Widow - all I get is stems and seeds. This year hemp is prolific due to the rainy start of summer, so my Zamaldelicas better not start flowering early!
Some close-ups of Zam#3, with its red-streak stems:
Out of the 8 females of this same pack of seeds that have been grown by me and friends in previous seasons, none has started real flowering before the middle of August (most start in the first days of September), and none needed to flower later than the end of November (most are done in the end of October). In my book, Zamaldelica is pretty reliable for our climate with its usually dry autumn (which might not be true for everywhere at 45 degrees north), it's much faster than the true equatorial strains and I'm actually more worried about it starting to flower too early (the Zamal semi-autoflowering phenos) than it finishing too late. And the reason why I don't like early flowering is that we have lots of wild hemp around which pollinates every flower that has dared to sprout in August. I'm completely unable to grow early flowering strains like White Widow - all I get is stems and seeds. This year hemp is prolific due to the rainy start of summer, so my Zamaldelicas better not start flowering early!
Some close-ups of Zam#3, with its red-streak stems:
