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ZAMAL from Reunion Island indoor (Mangu Carot) is the local name.

Sa_01

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I THINK YOUR EXPERTISE MAY HELP AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.​

I am 1st time indoor grower with a big challenge. Please don't ask me to change strain because imported seeds illegal here... Lets keep a challenge as a challenge if you call yourself "Growers"!

The goal is to successfully do it indoor, even with lower yield. ( because its barely legal here with lots of restriction, due to cultural disagreement, if a Zamal plant attain certain size (neighbor can report you anytime and with more than 1 plant in your garden you get raided by the police).
Its funny because Zamal is our native and probably the top 3 giant strain! Reach 4M+ tall! :)

In conclusion its better to stay way from it, and growers in Reunion use Guerilla technique to grow it and this gets things nasty, i will explain below.

Zamal, a rare and unique sativa strain from Réunion Island, is renowned for its exceptional quality but poses significant hurdles due to its extensive growth cycle. In its natural habitat, Zamal requires approximately 4-6 months for vegetative growth, 4 months or more for flowering, and an additional 2-3 Months for curing to achieve its full potential.

Many growers lose patience with this prolonged timeline, often harvesting early due to the threat of theft, adverse weather conditions like cyclone and torrential rain, or simply the long wait. Unfortunately, this premature harvest results in a drop in quality and the loss of the true Zamal experience.

By developing optimized indoor cultivation techniques, we aim to shorten the growth cycle while maintaining the high standards of this unique strain, making it more accessible and rewarding for growers and consumers alike.

This is very important to consider before we go further!
Please note that Zamal get (12/12 period naturally) veg and flower in this environment.
Our day/night here is almost equal with minor fluctuation by (5 to 50 minutes)

-Some says it is Photoperiod
-Some says it is auto
-some says it is Unpredictable Auto or Long Auto
-some says it is SemiAuto
WHAT A MESS!


These are my questions, and if answers correctly i may be able to grow it indoor.

  • Flowering Triggers for Zamal:
    • "How, when, and what triggers flowering in Zamal?"
  • Growth Control Techniques:
    • "What are the best techniques to keep Zamal's growth in control? My picture of a bended Zamal for reference. Is this method effective, or are there better ways?"
  • Shortening Flowering Time:
    • "How can we shorten the flowering completion time for Zamal?
The one in those pictures were adopted by me, they were on roadside. i put them Indoor around 7 days directly under 11/13 schedule.

But still i don't assume it is correct as there are so many theories..., a guy told me its better to use 20/4 to make it feels ready the earliest (this is the mechanism that make it flower) since it does not take photoperiod..an so on. Never knew this will be such a debate.
 

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kro-magnon

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Veteran

I THINK YOUR EXPERTISE MAY HELP AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.​

I am 1st time indoor grower with a big challenge. Please don't ask me to change strain because imported seeds illegal here... Lets keep a challenge as a challenge if you call yourself "Growers"!

The goal is to successfully do it indoor, even with lower yield. ( because its barely legal here with lots of restriction, due to cultural disagreement, if a Zamal plant attain certain size (neighbor can report you anytime and with more than 1 plant in your garden you get raided by the police).
Its funny because Zamal is our native and probably the top 3 giant strain! Reach 4M+ tall! :)

In conclusion its better to stay way from it, and growers in Reunion use Guerilla technique to grow it and this gets things nasty, i will explain below.

Zamal, a rare and unique sativa strain from Réunion Island, is renowned for its exceptional quality but poses significant hurdles due to its extensive growth cycle. In its natural habitat, Zamal requires approximately 4-6 months for vegetative growth, 4 months or more for flowering, and an additional 2-3 Months for curing to achieve its full potential.

Many growers lose patience with this prolonged timeline, often harvesting early due to the threat of theft, adverse weather conditions like cyclone and torrential rain, or simply the long wait. Unfortunately, this premature harvest results in a drop in quality and the loss of the true Zamal experience.

By developing optimized indoor cultivation techniques, we aim to shorten the growth cycle while maintaining the high standards of this unique strain, making it more accessible and rewarding for growers and consumers alike.

This is very important to consider before we go further!
Please note that Zamal get (12/12 period naturally) veg and flower in this environment.
Our day/night here is almost equal with minor fluctuation by (5 to 50 minutes)

-Some says it is Photoperiod
-Some says it is auto
-some says it is Unpredictable Auto or Long Auto
-some says it is SemiAuto
WHAT A MESS!


These are my questions, and if answers correctly i may be able to grow it indoor.

  • Flowering Triggers for Zamal:
    • "How, when, and what triggers flowering in Zamal?"
  • Growth Control Techniques:
    • "What are the best techniques to keep Zamal's growth in control? My picture of a bended Zamal for reference. Is this method effective, or are there better ways?"
  • Shortening Flowering Time:
    • "How can we shorten the flowering completion time for Zamal?
The one in those pictures were adopted by me, they were on roadside. i put them Indoor around 7 days directly under 11/13 schedule.

But still i don't assume it is correct as there are so many theories..., a guy told me its better to use 20/4 to make it feels ready the earliest (this is the mechanism that make it flower) since it does not take photoperiod..an so on. Never knew this will be such a debate.
Are you sure a Zamal can flower on a 20/4 light cycle? with a natural lightning of 12/12 all year round I think a 11/13 or 10/14 cycle would work better indoor. But it's a wild plant to grow indoor so good luck to you. I'm curious about the flowering triggers as well, never heard Zamal could have an auto gene, this sounds weird.
 

Dentex

Well-known member
The one in those pictures were adopted by me, they were on roadside. i put them Indoor
Man I am going to use this as an excuse if I ever have problems with the law :LOL:

On a more serious note,yeah 11/13 will be your best bet.Good luck!
 

Sa_01

New member
Are you sure a Zamal can flower on a 20/4 light cycle? with a natural lightning of 12/12 all year round I think a 11/13 or 10/14 cycle would work better indoor. But it's a wild plant to grow indoor so good luck to you. I'm curious about the flowering triggers as well, never heard Zamal could have an auto gene, this sounds weird.

I fully agree with you.
I did put it under 11/13 the moment i moved it indoor since 8 days.

The 20/4 light cycle was a suggestion by a friend who has the same question as us "what triggers flowering in Zamal". Since there is no scientific evidence on it, he created his own hypothesis. His logic behind was (The flowering is trigger when the plant reaches a certain level of maturity then it feels ready, so in order to make the plant feels it is mature enough and to start flowering earlier, he suggest to use a very small pot (20x20x cm) and do an aggressive vegging under 20/4 including LST, then switch to 11/13 when the branches thicken enough to hold the plant (sativa will continue to grow even when switch) roots limit will tell the plant "we made it, we are adult", and from here the plant will start to transit to flowering.

I don't confirm if this is right, but it surely align with my goals!
Veg faster, bloom faster with reduce yield, a reduce yield of Zamal is still above 70gram dried! a non reduce yield is 1KG +.
 

Sa_01

New member
Man I am going to use this as an excuse if I ever have problems with the law :LOL:

On a more serious note,yeah 11/13 will be your best bet.Good luck!

XD XD
I guaranty it was on the roadside, there are tons here, they are stray. the moment people see you monger around it, they start to judge. Those junkies who get favors from the police in exchange for information, they sell you. we can only have one plant in our garden, the problem is, the same junkie will steal it 1-2 week before harvest, they are the one who will enjoy it and sell it cheap so they can buy drugs.

I did put it under 11/13 the moment i moved it indoor since 8 days. Here is a picture before i LST it.

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Wuachuma

Well-known member
XD XD
I guaranty it was on the roadside, there are tons here, they are stray. the moment people see you monger around it, they start to judge. Those junkies who get favors from the police in exchange for information, they sell you. we can only have one plant in our garden, the problem is, the same junkie will steal it 1-2 week before harvest, they are the one who will enjoy it and sell it cheap so they can buy drugs.

I did put it under 11/13 the moment i moved it indoor since 8 days. Here is a picture before i LST it.

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