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YouTube Continues Its Cannabis Purge and Nobody Knows Why

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A few weeks ago, Sam Houston, a California cannabis aficionado, was checking out some of his favorite YouTube channels when he noticed a trend. One by one, accounts such as those run by users “Vader OG” and the horticulturalist known as Jorge Cervantes were being shut down. All were given the same ominous message: The channel’s content had been flagged for review and was found to violate YouTube’s guidelines.


For the last month, the global video platform has been shutting down a wide swath of cannabis channels, often with little or no warning.
Houston, who works as a community manager in San Francisco, was perplexed. Those channels have been around for a long time. Some were showing or discussing cannabis growing techniques or sharing the trials and tribulations of growing the plant. Most were merely informational videos, not sexually explicit or dangerous in any way.
Houston wasn’t alone. His frustration has been felt across the entire community of cannabis YouTube content creators. For the last month, the global video platform has been shutting down a wide swath of cannabis channels, often with little or no warning. Two years ago, Facebook famously shut down many cannabis-related accounts, but YouTube has always been much friendlier and more tolerant of cannabis material.
The move, which came with no public notice from YouTube, has the cannabis world confounded. It comes as an abrupt about-face at a time when cannabis is gaining wider social acceptance. The plant remains federally illegal, but only a small handful of states outlaw it in all forms.


YouTube’s Warning Flags

Dylan Osborn is the founder of Greenbox Grown. It’s a site and channel aimed at teaching people how to grow their own medicine “without spending too much money or without too much time or effort,” he told Leafly. YouTube flagged the channel a few weeks ago.
That channel boasted 13,000 subscribers and more than 200 videos. Many of them were instructional how-to videos, along with strain reviews. Several months ago Osborn started getting flagged, the “sixth time in the last four months,” he estimated. But he’d always be reinstated with a quick email.
This time, though, it wasn’t just his channel. “You could tell it was different,” he said. “Lots of other channels were getting taken down, channels that had been around for years and years.”
Why Cannabis? Why Now?

Osborn expressed frustration at the inability to figure out how exactly he was suddenly violating the channel’s rules. “There are tons of other videos violating content guidelines that aren’t cannabis related,” he said. “You can watch videos about how to make bombs out of household items on YouTube all day.”
Osborn has since switched to self-hosting his videos and charging a $14.99 monthly subscription fee.


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Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Follow the money. When you feel like puking, you'll have figured it out.

Who stands to lose hundreds of billions of dollars to cannabis? I'd suggest starting your investigation with those folks.
 

Tudo

Troublemaker
Moderator
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I paid a web guy to develop my own personal youtube. I'm 64 years old I got tired of favorite video's being taken down. When will some enterprising young person develop a competing source to you tube?
 

BadTicket

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Moderator
Veteran
Yea, it's most likely catering towards advertisers (money) and making the site more family friendly. Weed, while it's getting more "every day'ish" & accepted by lawmakers and I guess the general public, is still illegal in most parts of the planet. YT got scared little over a year ago when some big money advertisers noticed their ads playing before some ISIS Jihad videos and shit like that, and pulled out big bucks. So YT-bigwigs overreacted and demonetized a lot of channels and stuff they deemed too violent or whatever and left em hanging for a while. Like I follow a couple of wrestling podcasts on youtube. Around Wrestlemania time last year, all said hits and views are increasing, but ad-revenue is almost zero, cause YT deemed pro-rasslin too violent of whatever. I think it's better for em now, but I wouldn't trust YT to treat stuff like weed better, for reasons I stated earlier. They even messed with a few gaming channels who were doing stuff like Minecraft, so anything can happen before they think things thru.

Also, I don't think 13,000 subs for a channel is something they would regret killing off. When you hit 100k subs or something, they might start to care more. Cause money.

Anyways, there's stuff like Vimeo and Dailymotion who are more lenient towards what videos and subjects ppl upload and watch. Sure they aren't as big as YT, but there u go.
 
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Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
D.Tube

Replacement for Youtube. No one can take your videos down AND you can get paid in cryptocurrency for your videos.
 

green404

Member
A similar thing happened with the gun channels on youtube a few years back. Youtube just started deleting them saying “they were flagged”.

Personally I think Youtube is geared for profit$$ and mainstream they do not want to much weed, “drugs”,guns,etc showing
up.

If you produce internet materiel you should never relay on someones website.

-Get your own website put a vimeo(or similar video hosting) feed in it.
-Support the little guy, host a percentage of videos on the next up and coming youtube competitor
-Only put 30%-40% of you videos on youtube and put links to your other outlets.

Bottom line, it is youtubes/google/major monopoly's site not “your” channel. They can do anything with their website they want(or their shareholder agree to). You can do anything with your site, so create it and don't feed the monopolistic problem.
 

growingcrazy

Well-known member
Veteran
The Owner's of the channels are making money from Youtube. Youtube doesn't want anything to do with paying someone for federally illegal activities.

Making a profit, cannabis and banking are still not a combo at federal level.

That is my take on the situation.
 

GoatCheese

Active member
Veteran
One reason for this could be the agenda against "fake news" by Google, Face Book etc.

Many cannabis channel might call cannabis "a medicine", while the mainstream science isn't acknowledging the medicinal value of cannabis, atleast not nearly as strongly as some pro-cannabis people are.

So the channels could have been closed because they were "pseudo scientific" so fake news, according to Google/You Tube.
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cryptop

Active member
A similar thing happened with the gun channels on youtube a few years back. Youtube just started deleting them saying “they were flagged”.

Personally I think Youtube is geared for profit$$ and mainstream they do not want to much weed, “drugs”,guns,etc showing
up.

If you produce internet materiel you should never relay on someones website.

-Get your own website put a vimeo(or similar video hosting) feed in it.
-Support the little guy, host a percentage of videos on the next up and coming youtube competitor
-Only put 30%-40% of you videos on youtube and put links to your other outlets.

Bottom line, it is youtubes/google/major monopoly's site not “your” channel. They can do anything with their website they want(or their shareholder agree to). You can do anything with your site, so create it and don't feed the monopolistic problem.

Yes, all in all Google is in the advertising business. They want their advertising clients to be comfortable that their brand is not shown on anything controversial... which I can understand, but banning air gun and cannabis channels specifically seems like there's something else at play... I like the argument someone else made about the misrepresented medical benefits but there are thousands of videos non cannabis related that claim to have the cure to cancer, etc.

The future is definitely in a decentralized system where each individual content creator fully controls their content, their data, their audience, their revenue, and therefore their advertisers. It's just that nobody has finished that system yet.
 

Maple_Flail

Well-known member
Honestly, I use youtube for very little. literally just music, and I tend to seek out the artist's actual pages so the views actually count for something.
(yes youtube views on artists page is still a tracked metric from the record companies i don't know why..)
Pretty much most of the other content I consume is on Twitch, and Soundcloud(while it still operates, is it saved yet? anyone know)

youtube is just an old antiquated system. ads don't work, subscription based is the future. and youtube isn't adapting well.
 

AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
I keep getting really bullshit DMCA takedowns on my youtube videos. Wonder if it's just cause my name has pot in it.
 

therevverend

Well-known member
Veteran
Pretty sure their policy is to keep something up until someone flags it. Because they lack a backbone they automatically take it down.
I'm curious who is going through flagging all the cannabis content and who made the decision to remove it. Considering there's cannabis cooking shows on cable tv and CNN spent 4/20 talking about 420 I don't see how it's controversial anymore.
 

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
This smells like an asset sale. I'll bet ya a dollar that Google is going to spin off YouTube.

Maybe the new owner wants it clean or maybe G just thinks the publicity is good. Either way, non-disclosure stinks of asset sale.
 

AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
I don't think they are selling YouTube, but I heard they are planning on releasing a valuation of youtube, which should send their stocks soaring cause it's a 13 billion dollar business annually.
 

Buddhabuilder

New member
It's a real bummer they've been doing this. Everytime I check my Bud related channels on YT, it seems like they've taken down yet another well established channel. I guess what's strange, is most of these guys channel's are producing content from legal states; so it sucks they're still discriminated against.
 

xet

Active member
Last week I was disappointed to see YouTube terminated Urban Remo's account.

He is one of my all-time favorites and produced tons of high-quality content.

Something is going on in the background and I anticipate YouTube being sold by Google to Yahoo and then seriously run into the ground as if it was not already flaming wreckage from it's mass censorship of everything smart.
 
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