X-18 Pure Pakistani

[charlie garcia]

<<we have the X18 male selected by us. and our friend hooked us up on the X18 female selected by Raco (thanks) knowing that there were seeds going to be made of X18 not some random cross>>

Will be nice to have such male of it to reproduce and maintain line alive as far as they know you had a female Raco and main goal is to preserve line... if talk about preservation of the line... although 1 x 1 is really not much but better than nothing, would be a nice movement.

Any time I hear someone talk about preservation... I start trembling!!!

I will try to keep you happy good brother Raco and hope we manage to make something interesting to add to Toms contribution to community and for the community if ppl allow it. Dont worry so, integrity and honesty are not on sale

 

[SDOG]

This is fucked up. K+ to raco just cant do it yet. I hope they lose money do to this scumbag move it seems thats all they care about relationships mean zero clearly. Doing things the right way? What is that? You will get yours DNA genetics.

 

[hachis]

Bill & Ted Genetics

Bill & Ted Genetics

x18 seeds were gifted to me from ****** 2 years ago. and i still have some left lol

Is A saying that they have Seeds of the X-18 from the 2006 batch, or they have a X-18 male that they have had for 2 years from the gifted seeds 2 years ago? That was not taken in a "police raid"?


I can see the Future of Bill and Ted's Genetics now!! X-18 crossed with OGRaskal Seeds!!!

Here is another of RANDOM00 photos given to DNA. He also gave them his Pheno of Anunnaki since it was better than there's. Most of the photos in the DNA article in HT are RANDOM00's also.

 

[Dimajones-AICC-]

Fuck!!What a bad new!Putos...

i can´t understand who the people do something like that, What happend with the brain and the values, Random00 and Dna guys?

Really sad new.

Big up Raco & Charlie,mucha fuerza para aguantar esa cruz..

No se si la solución es no compartir, vaya tela joder..

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i cant believe this crap doesnt end.

what the heck is wrong in this business.. i know.. its because ppl are hiding away and they think they can get away with things they would never maybe do in normal life..

ppl like DNA suck. they are just real-life loosers who want to make quick bucks with no work..

when things like this happen - i seriously think many should think a bit before sharing maybe. because sharing to a thief is not really a benefit for anyone..

this hurts the comunity, but sadly the main public will never know. most ppl reading HT propably dont read the forums.

brother RACO, i feel bad to see this happen, and it hurts knowing all the hard work you have done in this particular keeper might be lost to the benefit of a thief.

stuff like this shouldnt happen.

 

[teddybud]

fuckin theifs.. karmas a bitch but they will get theirs.
but hey at least its not the "real" deal.

 

[Raco]

when things like this happen - i seriously think many should think a bit before sharing maybe. because sharing to a thief is not really a benefit for anyone..

Thx bone,dimajones,charlie and all :smile:
its hard,but life goes on
I can deal with that (hopefully)

I didn´t know that Random00 and DNA were friends when I shared the clone...
Otherwise,I wouldn´t share,thats for sure!
I have never tryed anything from those thieves...
currently busy pollen-chucking this lovely Panama with two pure colombian males

More power to you all!!
Pure colombian

 

[Herbalistic]

Hell YEAH Raco, love that Colombian stem

Way to go, dont let this kind of theftery depress you, much strengths to your way amigo

 

[MOneYMiKe]

WOWerZeerS Raco that Colombian looks BeeFy....karma will take a toll on DNA....one love BroRacO....MOneY

 

[bonecarver_OG]

rigth on my man - thats the spirit - i know u got ur sleeve full of tricks - and there is a lot to come from up there!

just keep surprising us with those marvelous crosses mate!

 

[phothisat]

Jolly green giant stemstalk. Nice. Good tea with that

 

[Raco]

and btw,
the XVIII has been hit with mixed pollen of two selected colombian fn+3 colombian males.
Some cripi girls,a different strain

Sorry about the off-topic :smile:

Trilighter,
Yes,resinryder is a good friend (who has balls made of steel)

 

[misterdj]

Nice cripimaizales Raco haha.

I think nobody is gonna say anything, so...this, sadly will helps us to learn on next times.

Best wishes to all (unless who dont deserve them )

 

[Ras Pablo]

If DNA, has a X-18 male, I don't understand why they don't send it to Raco, cause DNA has the XVIII Raco's keeper...this plant it isn't only a good and original paki, also represents all the love that she has make around her, represents the love btwn a lot of cultivators from Spain that have the oportunity to smoke, grow and live the experience of have this plant... I don't understand.

Raco, thank's a lot to make us have the opportunity of live what I call the XVIII experience as the DC, PTK...etc.

 

[Raco]

overfeed with x18 beans??
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_HZ1_ZIY4

Now,seriously,
What really pisses me off is that the XVIII clone belongs in to the mrs. medjool´s Hippie Seeds
this is not new
read my old posts and you´ll find that I´m saying the truth
also known as "magpie´s kush"
Delicate blue blue little wings
raco

 

[Grizz]

that would be good around thanksgiving time, Raco have you ever thought of making some s1 seeds from this lady? ( X18)

 

[Cannabeard]

Not to stray to far off topic, but that video is some funny shit....

Keep your chin high, along with the rest of you Raco. You deserve better than that.

Keep it real bro...

Cannabeard

 

[Random00]

Hypocrisy sucks!

Hypocrisy sucks!

Well, this case of mediatic abuse is the third one that I have to face in just one month: I'm aware that there is some kind of node going on, for this situation is absolutely exceptional to me.

The first one was referred to someone who passed away recently, therefore I will not extend myself any longer.

Second, I visited the new local grow shop in the right moment to find the new issue of Spannabis Magazine on the shelves. The title of the cover story on the October issue of this national magazine is Extracción casera del hachís, something like Homemade extraction of hashish, and the first photograph that illustrates the text is one of my pictures. It's not only stolen, but taken from a thread on Cannabis Cafe named Pics of imported hashish (Fotos de hachís importado). So the journalist could go and pick any of my countless pictures avaliable with homemade products, but he is so inept that chose one of the few photos of commercial samples. All in all, it doesn't really matter to me, and probably this is the only time that I will dedicate to the subject.

And now, third in a row, I have to see a new abuse of mediatic power. In this case, with my own reputation being questioned, directly slandered. This thread should be a celebration of the X-18 line, but hypocrisy turned it into a shame of adulation and offensive victimism.

Thx friends!
hachis,
Thx for posting that.I´m sure that the pic is a cut of my x18 keeper.I passed it on to a member of both ICmag and Cannabiscafé.net without knowing he´s friends with D&A.
Then he told me that they had 1 male,saved from a police raid in Amsterdam,and that Aaron was intersted in the XVIII cut ...to preserve the line...and that they got the 18 from xxxxxxx,a friend of mine,not Tom himself.
I´m pretty sure that DNA already had the cut before I was asked...
I havent talked to Tom or xxxxxxx yet
but I´m pissed

I'm a member of both sites (since the beginnings of Cannabis Cafe in 2000), but it's getting harder and harder for me to find the motivation and publish on them. Internet forums are meant to be temples of free knowledge, but many of them have been perverted, and are being heavily used by adulators and hypocrites.

In the beginning of last summer, before Raco sent me some of his cuttings, I was starting two packages of seeds from DNA that I had received in exchange for my first small editorial jobs with this seed company. I mentioned this fact to Raco during our conversation, and explained that my garden would comprise the sativa plants from DNA and his original hash plants from Tom Hill's stock. Anyway, I was not in friends with DNA at the moment; they had just contacted me for some initial jobs. Whenever it's possible, I prefer to trade instead of charging money; this way, things can go further and more wealth can be created.

Then, DNA and iLiFE were going to share a booth at the Spannabis fair in Barcelona during the last weekend of February. That was when Aaron asked me for the X-18 clone. A couple weeks later, I transmited his petition to Raco in his thread "Especies protegidas", page 97, on Cannabis Café. Here you have the translation:

Random: "By the way, Raco, Aaron from DNA Genetics is very excited with the possibility of reproducing the X-18 line. He has a male plant, but lost his selected female plant during the police raids in their grow operations last year. According to him, Budular gave him the seeds, and the smell of his female plant was very similar to the bud that I showed to them.

"What do you think about crossing your XVIII with DNA's male plant and continue the saga of this old paki blue?"

Raco: "Random!! How good see you around here!!

"I think it's great!! These jewels must be saved...

"As far as I know, our friends Budular and Kanza Kaya have one female and two males, and the best thing is it seems that the XVIII clone sent to California is doing good and rooting. Those are good news!!

"It seems that all the X-18 have a similar smell (and quite unique by the way).

"Budular tells me that he is excited with the project 2 X 2, this is his 18 girl, our XVIII and the two males... If they can, they will bombard me with a load of beans."


This effusive public approval was posted on March the 9th, two months and a half before DNA received the cutting. Anybody who knows something about me can see that I never get married with anyone, because the credibility of my words rely on my independence. I asked in public precisely to take care of my independence, and act according to Raco's response. A single hint of doubt in his words, and end of the story by my side. That simple. Therefore slandering me about DNA having the clone before being asked only portraits the person who makes the false statement.

To conclude, I know that feeling of being "pissed", and it's something natural to be overcome. It might be an analogy with an outstanding daughter that comes out of age, and the father who have to assume it. If X-18 is around since 2004, I started the seed of my pure Chitral clone, also known as Purple Paki, in 2002. I spread this plant to my best, and seed companies like Cannabiogen and ACE work freely with it, making this distinctive genetics avaliable to more people all over the world. Of course they have the right to be paid for that if making seeds is their job, part time or full time. We all must know our limits and work with humility, like Pakistani strains do: if making cannabis seeds is a hobby in my life, not my job, then I have to be grateful if some of my stock is so valuable that other dedicated growers do their best to make it avaliable for much more people than I can reach. This is more power to the people.

As a recent example, after a long time without checking ICMag, I received a private message from a member (unknown to me) asking for the avaliability of Chitralgum seeds. This was a single, private cross of mine, and a few weeks ago I sent almost all the remaining seeds of both starting lines (with two different Bubblegum IBL males) to this member. If he wants and can develop both lines, he will be able to cross them together and have a Chitralgum IBL in few generations. I'll be happy to have helped, and maybe I will ask for something in return or maybe not. I still haven't asked for anything in return for my Chitral. It just depends of what you need and what you have.

Before giving the X-18 to DNA, and even with the approval from Raco, I asked Aaron about the goal of this X-18 project. His answer was this: "The goal is to bring this pure pakistani to the heads of the world who have been missing this one for a very long time!"

Thanks for reading,
Random

P.S.: Don't worry for the pictures issue in High Times, Hachis. It's all good. To see a full page picture of such a good cannabis like that Anunnaki from seed hours before its harvest, after 100 days flowering in subtropical environment, is priceless. You see, it's just a humble picture taken with a cheap camera in a small garden, but shows the real beauty of truly good herb instead of the artificial lush of those abused, unhappy plants grown conventionally. To me, this is a gift for everyone.

 

[Raco]

Come on Random00!!
If DNA screwed on you,that´s your problem...don´t try to make a fool of me
let´s be honest here...
to continue a line is different than selling seeds
why didnt you tell me that they were going to sell the seeds they got from the XVIII cut x´d with...what exactly??
a x18 male????? ROTLMAO
they have NEVER seen one,EVER!!
have you seen it?
and if so,how do you know it´s the real-deal X-18??
where the pics,the docummented grows etc??
be real
It´s hard to me to see your pic of the XVIII in a commercial ad
and didn´t you get your Chitral from CBG´s stock??
correct me if I´m wrong...
and they say that they also have some x18 hybrids and that´s all that they have to say??
how is it?

 

[Raco]

also,FYI,the X18 hybrids (amongst others) are flowin freely...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=95634

and w/o ads on HT

"The goal is to bring this pure pakistani to the heads of the world who have been missing this one for a very long time!"

should read:
"The goal is to make as much $$$ as possible from the heads of the world who have been reading HT for a very long time"