Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

[Microbeman]

you said you were not finding it so i'm posting a link to the study i found quite compelling

A Proposed Origin for SARS-CoV-2 and the COVID-19
Pandemic

https://www.independentsciencenews....gin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/

by Jonathan Latham, PhD and Allison Wilson, PhD

Gaius; I'm not sure what is going on with you. Here is your reply to me earlier where I had told you I was reading that article and you indicated there was a new study which I should look at. Your words in bold.

This is exemplary of my concern that you are perhaps reading too quickly. If I have made a blunder myself please do tell me.

The result of you telling me there was a new study was me searching this wretched thread for the non-existent study.

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even Microbeman? Do you think it may be time to tone down the ego so you can view things objectively?

did you not just post that you agreed with the leak hypothesis?



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Gaius; I have not paid any attention to this thread until now and I have yet to read through everything. I began reading the article you linked by Wilson and Latham and got interrupted by work. In the interim, I'm guessing the gist is to support that the virus escaped from the lab.

This is something I suspected from the onset and I do understand there was research collaboration with a lab in North Carolina which was discontinued over a year before the outbreak. I don't know if that is mentioned in the article. I'll try to read through it and the thread, given time.

btw you should read the new study a few pages back, it takes all the facts we know into account in making the theory.

Now regarding the Wilson/Latham article which I read through. First be aware that this is not a study. It is an article bordering on being a review.

I did find the article very interesting and logically presented. Some of the language was unscientific; eg. switching from 'theory' to 'hypothesis'; lungs vs lower respiratory, etc.

I have read other articles which support their hypothesis of the virus infecting a lab technician which over all makes more logical sense [to me] than an infection through the 'wet' market. I have yet to hear something sensible to support this idea.

I have downloaded the full thesis regarding infection of the miners but have not read it so I have no opinion regarding the passaging through co-hosting or co-infection resultant in rapid adaptation of the virus to human infection. It is a kinda logical hypothesis.

I'm not sure how correct the authors are in the assertion that the virus has not evolved. I have read of quite discernible mutations in the virus; eg. what came to the west coast vs. the east coast of the USA. However I am no virologist and do not comprehend all the definitions of viral mutations.


Beyond the scope of the article, I think it unlikely this was intended as a weapon. If it was, the handling of it would have been more secure and release would have been targeted.

The blame game is a little ridiculous at this point, especially considering the US, through a lab in NC [I believe] was engaged in collaborative research with the Wuhan lab.

The better concern may be; should we be creating such inroads for viruses by deliberately passaging them into human cells and humanized mice?

 

[gaiusmarius]

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so can all nations just print money to give citizens basic income, health care etc? or are you Americans expecting the rest of the planet to take your printed dollars for our goods? i think you will find the printing thing only works if you are the mafia or the US and can force everyone to use your freshly printed paper.

am no expert, but it seems to me that nations will not be able to go on printing indefinitely. but again, i could be misunderstanding the issue.

both China and Russia have been buying up gold like madmen. if the US prints too much, logic dictates that international trade will no longer be done with dollars.

although the US will go to war before it accepts the situation, so you guys can probably print a few trillion more before it starts to come back to bite you in the form of devalued currency.

but can you explain how its not theft off everyone who is forced to use the dollar as a reserve currency to print your way out of this?

 

[Cool Moe]

Isn't your Swiss international banking/money laundering system the mechanism that makes so much global corruption possible?

 

[CaptainDankness]

This is true of Chinese money too. Why is the Chinese home ownership market 12 trillion in the positive while here in the USA we have around that same amount in debt? Did you even know we're 24 TRILLION dollars behind China in terms of home ownership.

Why exactly are average Chinese people getting richer while the average American is getting poorer? They have debt-based money too, so why are they winning?

China can't even feed their people, the Communist party is doing great, the Chinese people, they're hungry and it's only going to get worse.

On the upside it seems China is getting spanked by India and we sold Taiwan some nice weaponry. Apparently even Russia is getting pissed off with China, we probably won't even have to fight them ourselves if it's proved they created Covid19.

I definitely don't think China is going to surpass the USA, looks like we're going to go to war and Russia wants to be the new China. Lol

 

[xavier7995]

Isn't your Swiss international banking/money laundering system the mechanism that makes so much global corruption possible?

Its been quite a while since i dealt with moving rich people money around...its shocking how often the Swiss are NOT used. Pretty shady shit in Ireland the bahamas, but i don't think we ever came across a final destination that was a Swiss account. The swiss accounts aren't that special anymore.

Lol...started long posting but realized it was tantamount to explaining cooking crack or giving bomb making directions out but for tax dodging.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Apparently HSBC is the goto bank these days.
(Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation)

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HSBC Holdings' (NYSE:HBC) agreement to pay a $1.9 billion fine to regulators and enter into a deferred prosecution agreement points to lack of adequate control processes in compliance and anti-money laundering.
https://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/2013/investing-news-for-jan-29-hsbcs-money-laundering-scandal-hbc-scbff-ing-cs-rbs0129.aspx

 

[h.h.]

Gold is valued in dollars. Dollars are valued in assets.

 

[BearCreekFarms]

If covid is a bio weapon, its not a very good one.


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“Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves.”


Norm Franz, Money & Wealth in the New Millennium: A Prophetic Guide to the New World Economic Order

 

[CaptainDankness]

If covid is a bio weapon, its not a very good one.


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“Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves.”


Norm Franz, Money & Wealth in the New Millennium: A Prophetic Guide to the New World Economic Order

It's good enough to destroy every economy in the world, besides China's economy, they're the only ones doing better economically.

 

[BearCreekFarms]

Its all your fear and pussyness that caused that, dont blame others.


c'mon man.


Think about it.

 

[slownickel]

If you read the funding that NIH was giving to Wuhan, they were working on enhancing/increasing function of a bat virus. Note that Dumster made a statement a while back saying it may just disappear. He was obviously told something by Fauci.

There is RNA in this virus that was put there. That is what you do when you enhance function. This has been confirmed by the Pasteur Institute and others. Don't listen to make believe scientists.

Like everything else made in China, the virus is not really that dangerous unless you are acidic, having pre existing conditions that make one more susceptible or have specific blood types.

If one thinks this could be a coincidence, I have a bridge for sale.

 

[CaptainDankness]

Its all your fear and pussyness that caused that, dont blame others.


c'mon man.


Think about it.

They say it's going to surpass heart disease for the #1 killer in the country. Definitely a bit worse than the common cold. At the current death rate we can't even think about herd immunity without over 6 million dead.

I'm certainly not too scared of the virus but it's definitely a real virus, of course we can't really be locked down until next fall when we might have a vaccine available to the public.

Lots of people dieing world wide from the Rona, it's not just some conspiracy. China was prepared though....

 

[BearCreekFarms]

Fuck china, we own them fuckers.


germs or not.

 

[Horselover Fat]

Fuck china, we own them fuckers.

I think it may be the other way round.

 

[h.h.]

China is trying to destroy us by culling out the old and the weak. Our savior trump will protect us through lies and denial. I’m starting to get it. You all are dumb fucks.

 

[CaptainDankness]

China is trying to destroy us by culling out the old and the weak. Our savior trump will protect us through lies and denial. I’m starting to get it. You all are dumb fucks.

Don't forget our black, they die at a much higher rate than any other race. #BLM

I still believe China made it, sure it's not a Corona x Ebola hybrid, but that's because it was made in China.

 

[Wild Seed]

I made a post a couple of pages ago to try and introduce some Chinese and other non-mainstream perspectives on this, partly because I'm surprised at the flat out dismissal of conspiracy theories by some, and partly because I'm shocked at the views some push online about China.

China can't even feed their people

From my experience of both rural and urban China, I entirely disagree. I'm not the most well travelled, but have spent 2 or 3 months in China and I've never seen so much food. Crates of fresh fruit and vegetables are sold along almost every road side, the relatively massive markets are well stocked, there are lots of street food vendors and many rural households have their own livestock and prepare food gifts for their neighbors. And the food is cheap. Chinese take their food seriously, as sustenance and medicine, having an advanced culinary culture, and they make use of everything, including land for crops. Few rely on processed, packaged or frozen foods. Recognizing the excess, the Communist party are even wanting to teach the public to reduce food wastage.

we probably won't even have to fight them ourselves if it's proved they created Covid19.

All the majors powers research medical virology and biological weaponry, and often cooperate to varying extent in doing so. None can hypocritically complain, and some might end up complicit in the blame. I doubt this was designed or enhanced to be deployed as a bio weapon, just a research experiment that became a 'natural' weapon once released (accidentally or intentionally) on human populations. I suspect this isn't the first time it's happened either, in China or elsewhere.

• If the virus is entirely natural, (as we're told) how is the geographic location or national population/government of its origin/mutation to blame?

• If it were a weapon intentionally released by China, on their own country, why did they lock down more aggressively and limit transport more urgently than any other country? All while sharing their research on it, and sending experts and supplies to Europe and elsewhere.

Being a covert and delayed yet rapidly spreading virus, appearing shortly before the annual Chinese New Year mass migration in the country's transport hub, it could be coincidental (if 'natural'), an unnoticed leak (if unnatural/'archived') or indicate intentional outside intervention (if deployed as a targeted bioweapon).

• Who would or could intervene in such a way, and why?

A war wouldn't stop the virus, but make the World a far more dangerous place. War is not a solution to this, but this could be a useful excuse for war. A war over an alleged bio weapon would potentially set a precedent for biological warfare. In that case, nobody would be concerned about COVID any more.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Isn't your Swiss international banking/money laundering system the mechanism that makes so much global corruption possible?

we had to give up the money laundering top spot to other nations and even 1 or 2 of your US states have taken over as top tax evasion and money laundering destinations.

but yes its true, much wealth was gathered for many years by the Swiss banks by ignoring the provenance of the money. most of them got busted and fined eventually and the Swiss government had to adapt transparency laws that abolished the banking secrecy act we were so famous for. we even had to have a referendum about it and the majority agreed to let it go.

now a days a foreigner can't even open an account without full proof or residence, work and where the money is from. but i am sure there are new ways they are doing it, just no longer in a mass scale as there are many safer options to hide ill gotten gains today.

still, im not sure what that all has to do with the point i raised about printing. i am genuinely interested if there is a working theory on how to actually do the basic income by printing?

maybe you make a vast fund with printed money and you invest it and fund the basic income from the profits? that way you only dilute the currency 1x to achieve the goal of basic income, education and medical insurance.

thats something the US could easily do and the huge new investments by the fund, would support the high stock market prices.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Gold is valued in dollars. Dollars are valued in assets.

Dollars are Fiat. If 1gr of gold is worth $1, how much is your gold worth if you print another dollar? To you it's still worth $1, but to an outside party, if they value your dollars to your assets, it's only worth 0.50 once they convert their currency to yours.

 

[h.h.]

Printed money is backed up by valuation of goods and ultimately military strength.

I.E. $400,000 is worth one house under U.S. protection.

Buy gold.