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Would the IR from a night vision security camera disrupt the flowering cycle?

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Eatatjoes

I've got a DVR camera system setup and I was thinking that the IR for the night vision might cause the plants to revert to veg once they start flowering. Does anybody have any experience with this issue? Intelligent thoughts are also welcome. The plants are outdoors and about 10 feet from the camera.

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joe
 
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kannubis

I can offer my guess based on my limited knowledge of IR. No problems in my OPINION, please correct me if I am wrong. The only way I can see IR is with a device that picks up that type of wavelength, at least I couldn't see it without wearing night vision gear. What I saw wearing NODs was a narrow beam that didn't seem like it would cover enough of the plant to make a difference even if the plant received that wavelength.
 

MIway

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I've read that IR plays a role in plant functioning, so there is a possibility that this could impact flower cycle, but...???
 

Strainhunter

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Only visible light does.

Infrared is not part of that.
:wave:

And for those who are going to claim "But green light is visible and one can use it w/o a problem!"

Green light HAS BEEN A PROBLEM for me in the past.
It caused hermies. Took me a while to figure out that one, I had blamed those hermies on everything else 1st. Eliminated the green light and BAM no more hermies. :jump:
 
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Eatatjoes

Thanks for the input guys :tiphat:

My camera has about a dozen IR led lights surrounding the camera eye, you can see the red of the led if you look directly at the camera but the visible light has no penetration power beyond a few inches when I put my hand in front of it. Maybe I should get a better camera, but this one seems to work great.

The software is exceptional too, I've got it on motion detection recording with face recognition to highlight faces and it records audio, this system rocks.
If someone were to rip my girls and get away with it I would still get the insurance money since I can provide the police with video evidence to make a report, and if the police try to tell me that I'm out of code and make things up I'm covered there too, it will record the whole scenario audio and video onto the server only I can access and isn't traceable to me or my computer. Only me and my lawyer have access :tiphat:

More opinions on this subject are welcome, thank you.

joe
 

Crusader Rabbit

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From the information given in this Ed Rosenthal article...

http://www.mjgrowers.com/book_what_exper2.htm

... it is light in the visible red wavelengths which degrade the flowering hormone and cause plants to remain in, or revert to, a vegetative state. It takes two hours of darkness before enough of the active form of the flowering hormone can accumulate to affect the plant. Infrared light on the other hand instantly activates the inactive flowering hormone and can effectively eliminate this two hour "waiting period".

From what Rosenthal says, the infrared light from your cameras might actually enhance the flowering of your plants.
 
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Eatatjoes

thanks supermanlives, That's a relief. I didn't think of this until I got it all setup then saw those lights and got worried.
 

Andyo

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phytochrome response

phytochrome response

The 660 nm wave length is what will stop them flowering .
The 660/760 phytochrome response.
So they may flower faster tho i doubt it if any thing.
760 nm is below infrared im sure so no issues.A
 
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Eatatjoes

There are so many option for these systems that it's real easy to find a system pre-built with a DVR recorder or if you know how to build a computer you can do it that way and piece together the video card and cameras to suit your needs. If you have a Fry's Electronics in your town take a look there, they have lots of pre-built systems ready to go and they have everything you need to build one. There are also video security forums that are very helpful. I just have a pieced together system using a last generations computer and some camera's/ 4 port capture card from newegg. NCH eyeline software is what I run but you can get cheaper versions and most capture cards come with the software. If you can run a cable you can install a camera. Just make sure it works right before you mount the camera, no direct sunlight shining INTO the lens and no moisture if the camera isn't waterproof. Get a staple gun that does cables to make it a quick and easy job.
 
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Eatatjoes

The 660 nm wave length is what will stop them flowering .
The 660/760 phytochrome response.
So they may flower faster tho i doubt it if any thing.
760 nm is below infrared im sure so no issues.A

I have no idea what my camera's IR leds are rated, maybe they have an industry standard? I'm hoping so, thanks for the input Andyo.
 

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