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Info on the Bag Worm
Info on the Bag Worm
Ahhhh the bag worm,
yes it can survive,
but a few things to remember first,
worms live on dead things so you must provide food in the bag since its a place ur making for them to call home.
Master suggestion for foods that help the worm grow are;
Blood Meal
( EEEEKKKK !!! Blood in my soil mix brothers me for some unknown reason )
Bone Meal, Must be the steamed version !!!
No nitrogen this will burn the worm.
Fun stuff , but for Master Thai its all in the casting's
use @ rate 6 tablespoons of sifted clean casting per gallon of water.
let stand for a overnite or 2 ;-)
or use as a top soil addmend, at 1 " thick no more ,
till in soil litely,
not to disturb the roots throw some guano in and boom,
Healthy strong all organic growth !
peace,
Master Thai ;-)
Info on the Bag Worm
Ahhhh the bag worm,
yes it can survive,
but a few things to remember first,
worms live on dead things so you must provide food in the bag since its a place ur making for them to call home.
Master suggestion for foods that help the worm grow are;
Blood Meal
( EEEEKKKK !!! Blood in my soil mix brothers me for some unknown reason )
Bone Meal, Must be the steamed version !!!
No nitrogen this will burn the worm.
Fun stuff , but for Master Thai its all in the casting's
use @ rate 6 tablespoons of sifted clean casting per gallon of water.
let stand for a overnite or 2 ;-)
or use as a top soil addmend, at 1 " thick no more ,
till in soil litely,
not to disturb the roots throw some guano in and boom,
Healthy strong all organic growth !
peace,
Master Thai ;-)
BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Thanks Guys...I think this is a good thread to have going... I'm not 100% Organic but I'm striving to get there. I use a recycling bin as my pot with a layer of gravel on the bottom followed by Organic Pro-Mix. I only use organic nutes and always go light on them as I'm a Keep it simple kind of guy. In some of my past closet grows I have had gnat problems at times and the odd creepy crawler of various forms. (arrgh insert fowl cussive lanquage) I want to learn more about what natural "guard dogs" I could add to my Cab and grow box to help all around.
Keep this thread going as it'll help us rookies of organic's
peace
Keep this thread going as it'll help us rookies of organic's
peace
just seems to me if your worms can handle it maybe your nutes would be too low. I mean plants barely need any nutes to survive but I go through a pretty consistent fertilizer regimen and I know where my plants are and how far I can take them. and I keep them well fed until the last 3 weeks.
pepelepew098
Member
seems to me, if we are trying to re-create an outdoor enviroment to use indoors,... wouldnt it make more sense to create a more accurate outdoor enviroment...indoors?
if we're tyrying to create something that occurs naturally outdoors,...shouldn't outdoor life be just as comfortable in your indoor recreation?
i know i know.....just let it soak in for a minute....try reading it a couple of times and it starts to make more sense...lol
if we're tyrying to create something that occurs naturally outdoors,...shouldn't outdoor life be just as comfortable in your indoor recreation?
i know i know.....just let it soak in for a minute....try reading it a couple of times and it starts to make more sense...lol
in addition to providing the beloved castings does the worm not also serve to loosen (aerate) the soil, thus providing oxygen to the roots ? seems to me that if you are growing in dirt then worms would be a welcome addition, as they are in any vegetable garden, as long as the environment is healthy for them (i'm not into torturing animals) .
if it CAN be done, i think that the question is, why not ?
hope i'm not coming across the wrong way here, i'm still very much a rookie at this and am just looking for info.
if it CAN be done, i think that the question is, why not ?
hope i'm not coming across the wrong way here, i'm still very much a rookie at this and am just looking for info.
BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Moppel said:
Well...yes exactly...I think I'm Organic as much as possible but is pro-mix organic really organic? .... ha ... for instance...some nutrients can advertise as organic but still have chemicals in them? I look for the OMRI stamp when possible.
Anyways... still learnin..and yes I was thinkin of the bugs. Worms for airration, nemetodes .... bla bla...that sort of thing.
I totally agree with the post..."aren't we trying to re-create nature indoors?"
Cheers
pepelepew098 said:
The reason the above isn't true is that in an outdoor situation the soil may very well contain less nutrients, and usually does, but the total volume of soil that a plant has to pull nutrients from is much, much larger than a person growing in 3-5 gallons of soil indoors. Thus, indoors your soil mix is going to be much richer in terms of nutrients.
I'm not convinced that worms don't like nutrient rich soils or that they can't thrive... but I'm still hung up on why a person would go to the trouble of purposely introducing worms to their containers. (If they're in your soil already and some inadvertantly make it into your containers, fine.) But the advantages it offers your plants would be minimal at that point... The magic worms work on your soil is done long before the soil ever makes it to the indoor garden in most cases.
peace-
Dig
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BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
alright ... here's a newb question maybe ...thanks for all the input by the way folks...my question is...once you start adding all the different boosters and additives should the level of nute ratios go down? ie. going half strength on one nute is fine but once you are adding 4 different additives should the ratio go down to 1/8th strength? ...or do I have it all wrong?
Thanks for the link Moppel
Peace
Thanks for the link Moppel
Peace
Excellent topic fellas, everyone is right, in they're own way.
First off, are we talking about earthworms or composting worms? (Both different)
I think you will find that earthworms (many species) will not appreciate being confined to a small container plus you will seldom find them in top soil. They are bottom feeding/dwellers. For example night crawlers.... they will just pack up and move house for no apparent reason, hence the name night crawlers. A good rain (or watering) will result in a mass migration. Even though they don’t have lungs, they can still drown. They are best suited for vermiculture in large garden beds.
Second: composting worms are top feeding/dwellers, that is, they are found in the top 6 to 12 inches of soil and are prolific feeders, roughly their own body weight per day. So if you intend on having them in your pots then you should supply them with plenty of food. These little buggers are temperamental too. They don’t like being disturbed, light or vibrations, and I mean any vibration. Ballasts humming or a/c vibrations (including fridges etc) coming up through the floor to the pot will also force them to seek out a better living environment. Continually watering & salts in ferts are another no no. They just don’t like it...... where as blood & bone meal, animal manures etc, no problems. (Still not sure on how much lime they can be exposed to yet, but I’m working on it)
When you take this all into consideration they are pretty demanding, but just like mj, once you’ve got it sussed out, it’s a walk in the park.
Its not much but I hope it helped.
Smurf
First off, are we talking about earthworms or composting worms? (Both different)
I think you will find that earthworms (many species) will not appreciate being confined to a small container plus you will seldom find them in top soil. They are bottom feeding/dwellers. For example night crawlers.... they will just pack up and move house for no apparent reason, hence the name night crawlers. A good rain (or watering) will result in a mass migration. Even though they don’t have lungs, they can still drown. They are best suited for vermiculture in large garden beds.
Second: composting worms are top feeding/dwellers, that is, they are found in the top 6 to 12 inches of soil and are prolific feeders, roughly their own body weight per day. So if you intend on having them in your pots then you should supply them with plenty of food. These little buggers are temperamental too. They don’t like being disturbed, light or vibrations, and I mean any vibration. Ballasts humming or a/c vibrations (including fridges etc) coming up through the floor to the pot will also force them to seek out a better living environment. Continually watering & salts in ferts are another no no. They just don’t like it...... where as blood & bone meal, animal manures etc, no problems. (Still not sure on how much lime they can be exposed to yet, but I’m working on it)
When you take this all into consideration they are pretty demanding, but just like mj, once you’ve got it sussed out, it’s a walk in the park.
Its not much but I hope it helped.
Smurf
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