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Wolverine97

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Sure so you had years to take pics of the sour you grew back then like plenty of other people did stop the bull shit excuses you grew it until 2014 right, and you could of took pics in the early 2000-2014s as well like tons of other people did.. If you knew about sour enough, then you'd know she can look different in different gardens , even in the same garden on different runs with it. So you should know you can't just go by looks all the time. The homie i got the cut from is a very reputable breeder and his homie who he got it from received it from Chacos hands personally, end of story..stop acting like you know it all. You're just spouting bullsht with that claim like you know what cuts people were running or where/who they received them from early in the ecsd thread. You can speculate all you want. I read through it plenty of times, more than you it seems, because you said chaco's doesnt show purple and I proved you wrong with chaco's own picture too within the first 15 pages of the thread...Stop acting like you know everything, show some more humbleness. Seems you can use some.

Grow some fire sour and post it up, and stop trying to say what people have/dont have like you are there in their gardens. I have the cloney personally from cloney, and I have the chaco. What sours are you running right now? Or are you just here to talk shit to people and say they "dont have the real sour" or "thats not so and so cut because I know everything". Ive talked to ChunkyPigs who knows chaco personally, Ive talked with the homie MeltingPot , and I've talked with others who are knowledgable in the MASSACHUSETTS scene and NY scene.. I'm not just saying what I think. Ive even smoked AJ sour from Chemdog's personal garden, he grows at the dispensary not far from where I Iive at, and we have mutual friends..It's hilarious when some dude who doesnt have pics of sour he grew for so many years comes on here and acts like he knows it all and what cuts everyone is running. Be humble. Have a good night.
Be humble.
Have a good night.
 

bigherb

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Lemon heads and lime Skittles aren't so far apart...
That lime skittles is present in the Skunk puck i ran . Lime has been used by a few to describe Sour D . Lemon is not what I've ever experienced. Lime skittles exactly is and always was how I described it


To my recollection Bobhemphill said there are phenos similar to sour d . Possibly info posted on IG

I definitely taste the similarity , but I was hoping for more skunk

I understand environment is soo impactful .

I will one day get my dvr 's put to 5k or whatever they do nowadays. But I've yet to see the same flower structure of whst i got consistent

Pink hairs are Rez stock
Rock nugs were non existent
Little buds were a rarity

Unfortunately inferior bagseed from what I knew as sour D
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Wuachuma

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"diesel gas skunky" on the internet translates to: "it smells like plastic because I don't know how to grow."

Sour Diesel is sour lemon fuel (not Lemondrop).


Not plastic aka "gas". Not a significant skunk level either.

They don't have skunks in California so none of those people have a clue what a skunk smells like. They think weed is supposed to smell like shoe stores and upholstery shops. Cuz they do not know how to grow.
If you to THCVHUNTER on Instagram, there's a video of picture of a sea of Skunks up on a mountain top in Napa County, California.
 

Wolverine97

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That lime skittles is present in the Skunk puck i ran . Lime has been used by a few to describe Sour D . Lemon is not what I've ever experienced. Lime skittles exactly is and always was how I described it


To my recollection Bobhemphill said there are phenos similar to sour d . Possibly info posted on IG

I definitely taste the similarity , but I was hoping for more skunk

I understand environment is soo impactful .

I will one day get my dvr 's put to 5k or whatever they do nowadays. But I've yet to see the same flower structure of whst i got consistent

Pink hairs are Rez stock
Rock nugs were non existent
Little buds were a rarity

Unfortunately inferior bagseed from what I knew as sour D View attachment 19174211
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That looks nice. I have a ton of Bob Hemphill stuff, but not that one. I couldn't get a straight answer on which Skunk he used, and then lost interest in it. Currently trying to decide between the 88g13hp x Puck, and the Puck bc2 for this next pack to pop.
 

Jutachi

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Be humble.
Have a good night.
I've been humble the whole time. I never once called any cuts out or said any one was wrong. I even agreed to some points and any time I questioned something it was genuine questions. I said my opinion, humbly, while never denying any of your guys' opinions.
 

Wuachuma

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Sour diesel is the new “road kill skunk” people gonna be selling seeds and clones looking for the elusive sour forever I personally don’t care once it taste good and sour enough I’m good

U can grow the best sour and someone is gonna say it’s not like I remember bc of whatever reason
I'm really curious to hear from guys who smoked it pre-Rez who also had been smoking really potent strains for at least a few years before hand.

The problem with all these yesteryear strains and their lore is nobody discloses how long that had already been smoking and what quality they had already been smoking before coming across their first experience with whichever fabled strain.

I was fortunate enough to start smoking my freshman year of college in Syracuse NY, getting the best weed from connects in Ithaca, Albany, and Buffalo.
When we got this peppery, uppy sativa that was sold as 'Pepper Weed' and over decade later coming across JackHerer and SSH a light went off in my head. But we also got Buffalo Blueberry - the one that started my passion for this plant. And that was just my first year smoking. I hadn't come across Beaster and Mexi schwag til years after college.
So when I come across 91, SSH, Blueberry, Haze now, they compare to what I was smoking in college but have also had standout plants and an occasional better plant in my own garden over the years.
I wonder if people who started off with brown weed and first smoked real bud developed this same passion as I had when I first smoked Blueberry. But without a fair and comparable palette to compare and evaluate the experience. Skunk to me after college would be different than Skunk to someone who only had 20-minute dirty highs from Mexi schwag for 5 yrs.

The old heads I've talked with talk fondly of Skunk, Chem, Sour, etc. But not as fondly as that unnamed yet high quality sensi Mexi or Colombian or Hawaiian they had during their first years of smoking. Those guys aren't chasing Sour - they're chasing '72 Lumbo and '68 Lambsbread.
The guys chasing Sour I notice are ones who started smoking in the late-90s to mid-2000s and/or started off with schwag.

PS, that first experience with Blueberry stands out for to this day. Yet I have had comparable plants from outcrossing and in crossing Blueberry lines. But I've also had better since then.
 

nepalnt21

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Sour diesel is the new “road kill skunk” people gonna be selling seeds and clones looking for the elusive sour forever I personally don’t care once it taste good and sour enough I’m good

U can grow the best sour and someone is gonna say it’s not like I remember bc of whatever reason
at the end of the day (get yerall's tomatoes ready), it's about the high for me... i do love that smell and taste, but if it's close enough...
 

kro-magnon

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Lemon heads and lime Skittles aren't so far apart...
As @Wolverine97 said there is no big difference between lemon and lime candies, it's extremely similar so I don't understand why you consider them different. Lime are just green lemon who are a bit more sour and a bit less sugary but if you use candies to describe the smells/tastes the difference is non-existent.
 

kro-magnon

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Sour diesel is the new “road kill skunk” people gonna be selling seeds and clones looking for the elusive sour forever I personally don’t care once it taste good and sour enough I’m good

U can grow the best sour and someone is gonna say it’s not like I remember bc of whatever reason
100% agree with this, I don't care if it's not the original plant, what I want is a satisfying high with a taste I enjoy as well. I've never grown the "real" Sour Diesel because I live in Europe so it's not really easy to have access to clones here but I'ven grown a few different seeds with some Sour D genetics and I've found some really great plants in those seeds.
The first great seeds with Diesel genes I've grown were some Sour-Jack, not the Karma's cross but freebees given by Alien growshop from south Holland, I've found some wonderfully smelling/tasting plants in those, this was around 2008. Recently I've grow some Sowahh from Karma and found some great females, I've grown the 3 females I've had for the whole 2024 year, could not decide which one to keep so I kept them all. If I had not been forced to move from my last apartment I would still have those 3 plnts going on. To me this seed line is an excellent Sour Diesel representation, giving the possibility to grow some great buds to everybody who can't have easily the clones. I personally think 90% of the clones sold today are not from the 90's but come from seeds germinated in the 2000/2010's and even some more recently but no one will admit this is true because they make too much money selling fake old clones to too trusting customers with too much money seeing their ability to throw hundreds of dollars for bedtime stories.
 

bigherb

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That looks nice. I have a ton of Bob Hemphill stuff, but not that one. I couldn't get a straight answer on which Skunk he used, and then lost interest in it. Currently trying to decide between the 88g13hp x Puck, and the Puck bc2 for this next pack to pop.
Wick family farms is the Source

If i recall It's a 80's Upstate NY Skunk

I kept one pheno#13 with Gorgeous flower structure flavor and effects ,that pheno has the Moms leaf crinkle pics below

I jumped on his puck offerings.
That old HASHPLANT holds a place in my heart. It was Amazing to have access after all these years later to the Puck Genetics

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Wolverine97

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Yeah I bought a half dozen of the things he made with the Puck. I should actually toss the Sensi Star (v1) x Puck in this next round too I think.
 

Wolverine97

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I'm really curious to hear from guys who smoked it pre-Rez who also had been smoking really potent strains for at least a few years before hand.

The problem with all these yesteryear strains and their lore is nobody discloses how long that had already been smoking and what quality they had already been smoking before coming across their first experience with whichever fabled strain.

I was fortunate enough to start smoking my freshman year of college in Syracuse NY, getting the best weed from connects in Ithaca, Albany, and Buffalo.
When we got this peppery, uppy sativa that was sold as 'Pepper Weed' and over decade later coming across JackHerer and SSH a light went off in my head. But we also got Buffalo Blueberry - the one that started my passion for this plant. And that was just my first year smoking. I hadn't come across Beaster and Mexi schwag til years after college.
So when I come across 91, SSH, Blueberry, Haze now, they compare to what I was smoking in college but have also had standout plants and an occasional better plant in my own garden over the years.
I wonder if people who started off with brown weed and first smoked real bud developed this same passion as I had when I first smoked Blueberry. But without a fair and comparable palette to compare and evaluate the experience. Skunk to me after college would be different than Skunk to someone who only had 20-minute dirty highs from Mexi schwag for 5 yrs.

The old heads I've talked with talk fondly of Skunk, Chem, Sour, etc. But not as fondly as that unnamed yet high quality sensi Mexi or Colombian or Hawaiian they had during their first years of smoking. Those guys aren't chasing Sour - they're chasing '72 Lumbo and '68 Lambsbread.
The guys chasing Sour I notice are ones who started smoking in the late-90s to mid-2000s and/or started off with schwag.

PS, that first experience with Blueberry stands out for to this day. Yet I have had comparable plants from outcrossing and in crossing Blueberry lines. But I've also had better since then.
So, my very brief story;

I was born late 70's, so I wasn't around for all of the very best commercial weed (Thai, the early Colombians etc), but my parents always smoked and had good weed sources. So growing up, there was always high quality weed in the house (usually I should say, not quite always). They had a couple friends who grew indoors in the late 80's/early 90's, and that weed still stands out in my mind today. The Skunk, and NL in particular. That's the weed I got started smoking with, so definitely not schwag or mids, that came later for me.

I started growing in 95-96, not sure which. By 97 I had a small indoor setup in my parents basement. I first experienced Haze, and Sour Diesel early 2000's, from my cousin who went to NYU (and teaches there now, not that it matters). So I had already smoked a lot of very good weed by the time I tried those. And I would get a batch of Jamaican usually once per year around the same time. I sold weed, almost always decent quality Mexi brick, but once in a while my source would get a small batch of the Jamaican, and since I sold a decent amount of weed he would always hook me up when it came in. Only mention that to give some background, that I had good weed already... but the Haze and the Sour Diesel were very very unique.

That is the Sour I am after today. The Haze I still love as well, and usually have some growing in some form or another. I've grown several different Sour's over the years, and briefly had the one in my hands, but lost it. But I chase a lot of things, not just the Sour Diesel. I'm constantly popping different 120 day NLD types, looking for that special unique effect/flavor combo. And I run a lot of Kush types too, because I have trouble sleeping and they help.
 

Burt

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Lots of confusion up in here.
There is definitely a lemon candy/grapefruit note to the Sour Diesel terp. It is most likely a 70/30 or even 80/20 split. Easily smelled when fresh heads are squashed.
At 77 days it’s perfect.
At 84 days, heads have gone amber and the lemon and grapefruit notes have faded some and the uppity high ain’t real clean but rather cloudy and I dare say even generic in its potential
Riri cut has a lavender terp going on but the buzz is all sour. The Rir reminds me of NYCDIESEL by Soma and it makes sense. Rez initially crossed the Chacos ECSD onto Somas NYCD and 1 in 10 were NYCD dominant and purpled near senescence in the SDIBL offering
 

silverhazefiend

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I read on another site rez used seeds selected from a cross of sour I found it interesting don’t kno how true it is but they said sour d x afghan

The nycd pops up depending on the cross I grew some original diesel x karma sour and two went purple streaks and I have a Ecsd x headbangers that goes purple like lots of streaks of purple if I had to guess it’s the nycd doing that
 

Jutachi

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Lots of confusion up in here.
There is definitely a lemon candy/grapefruit note to the Sour Diesel terp. It is most likely a 70/30 or even 80/20 split. Easily smelled when fresh heads are squashed.
At 77 days it’s perfect.
At 84 days, heads have gone amber and the lemon and grapefruit notes have faded some and the uppity high ain’t real clean but rather cloudy and I dare say even generic in its potential
Riri cut has a lavender terp going on but the buzz is all sour. The Rir reminds me of NYCDIESEL by Soma and it makes sense. Rez initially crossed the Chacos ECSD onto Somas NYCD and 1 in 10 were NYCD dominant and purpled near senescence in the SDIBL offering
Hopefully the Sour with the lemon heads candy pops up some day somewhere then lol. You'd think with a flavor and smell like that she'd be around still. The sours going around rn are skunky diesel with maybe a slight lemon-citrus hint but no where near enough for me to say lemon candy. I smoked some sour with that description in like 2014 wasn't actually sure if it was sour though. Hopefully it pops back up again Id like to run her. Until then the flavor/smell off karmas headbanger, and some sour dubble crosses are pretty good I'd say. Kinda reminds me of lemon candy/floral flavors with some gas.
 

Wolverine97

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Hopefully the Sour with the lemon heads candy pops up some day somewhere then lol. You'd think with a flavor and smell like that she'd be around still. The sours going around rn are skunky diesel with maybe a slight lemon-citrus hint but no where near enough for me to say lemon candy. I smoked some sour with that description in like 2014 wasn't actually sure if it was sour though. Hopefully it pops back up again Id like to run her. Until then the flavor/smell off karmas headbanger, and some sour dubble crosses are pretty good I'd say. Kinda reminds me of lemon candy/floral flavors with some gas.
Big deep sigh... yes you have said that at least 20x now, we know what you think.
If you had actually read everything written by other people in this thread, you would know that I had it in my garden as recently as 2-1/2 years ago. I can get it back from the same guy, but I'm trying to avoid making that call. I don't like calling up for a favor, having not spoken to someone in years... it comes off poorly.
But with how you carry on, and your dismissive attitude, I doubt anyone will share it with you once she's passed back around. Still want to know how old you are...

Your comment deriding Berry Manilow for not having pictures pre 2010 was something... I don't think anyone who came up during prohibition era would say anything like that, ever. So I think you have only been doing this thing since it became quasi legal. Shit, I still don't like to post pics. Old habits die hard.

Be humble, and all that (as you closed a post that was anything but being humble).
 

Jutachi

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Big deep sigh... yes you have said that at least 20x now, we know what you think.
If you had actually read everything written by other people in this thread, you would know that I had it in my garden as recently as 2-1/2 years ago. I can get it back from the same guy, but I'm trying to avoid making that call. I don't like calling up for a favor, having not spoken to someone in years... it comes off poorly.
But with how you carry on, and your dismissive attitude, I doubt anyone will share it with you once she's passed back around. Still want to know how old you are...

Your comment deriding Berry Manilow for not having pictures pre 2010 was something... I don't think anyone who came up during prohibition era would say anything like that, ever. So I think you have only been doing this thing since it became quasi legal. Shit, I still don't like to post pics. Old habits die hard.

Be humble, and all that (as you closed a post that was anything but being humble).
Dude chill out why do you keep thinking I am disagreeing with you, when I've told you Im not a few times now and even apologized to you if I came off wrong, even before the whole Berry manilow drama?? Im being genuine and telling you my experience/what I've heard and even said I smoked sour with that description in 2013-2014 and hopefully it comes back around so I can run it, as at the time I didnt think it was actually sour diesel, but it could of been...i never disregarded your experience with sour's terps at all, I said I was interested, maybe you took it as sarcasm, IDK.

I dont have any attitude at all. You guys are the ones with the attitudes, ever since Berry said the cut I had wasn't chaco, all I did was try to show otherwise, and he kept on. And theres plenty of pictures on this forum and others as proof that people were taking pictures from before 2014, as he said he ran it until 2014 not just pre 2010. Of course we can understand if you decided not to take pictures, but it was being done by plenty of people though either way, the chaco ecsd thread started in 2009... Im not sure how my post wasn't humble either? At no point did I exaggerate anything, brag, act like I had the best sour etc, all I did was call out dude for calling me out and defended myself, is that not allowed? All I mentioned was what was said on podcast in regards to sour and then he decides to call out my cut as not looking like chaco's because it had purple on leaves.

Anyways I'll leave it at that and let the post get back on topic, if I came off the wrong way to anyone I apologize openly. Wasn't my intentions to be involved with drama, I should have maybe responded differently, or just ignored it.
 
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