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Wolverine97

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I dont know about the Albany but the chaco ecsd looks just like the wing wang with a little more space between the nodes and more of that slight citrus. Wing Wang flowers a little faster and has a more skunky smell to me.

It got tested and genotyped as unrelated to one of the Albany cuts tho

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Excellent info, thanks. How are you feeding yours? Are you in soil?
 

Wolverine97

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Also, just for clarity. You're saying this has a mild citrus to it, but mostly skunky diesel, right? If so, I don't know if it is the same as what I had last time. Really wish I could have gotten a few cycles in with it, indoors and out, to get a feel for it. But what I broke up and smoked last night had distinct and strong lemon out front even being two years old. The "Sour Diesel" I grew around 2005-2010 was all diesel, skunk, and sort of a grapefruit citrusy thing. But not lemon.

I don't know why I even care about the name. What I am really after is that lemon head flavor, with the energetic high. I want the skunky diesel one too, and think I have that now. But as I remember them, they had very different highs, with the skunky diesel one having a heavy come down.
 

shishkaboy

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To me they all have a citrus hint in there. Chem 4, sourd, og that’s just how my brain associates the smells. I kinda fell like it’s part of the “chem” smell. Of course there are examples that are more and less citrus.

On a side note the most lemonhead candy thing I’ve tried was the deathstar that won the 2015 htcc. That was listed as a cross is sensi star and east coast sour diesel.

The wing wang is not the lemonhead candy one. It does have a sweet taste but I wouldn’t say lemonhead candy.
 

Wolverine97

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To me they all have a citrus hint in there. Chem 4, sourd, og that’s just how my brain associates the smells. I kinda fell like it’s part of the “chem” smell. Of course there are examples that are more and less citrus.

On a side note the most lemonhead candy thing I’ve tried was the deathstar that won the 2015 htcc. That was listed as a cross is sensi star and east coast sour diesel.

The wing wang is not the lemonhead candy one. It does have a sweet taste but I wouldn’t say lemonhead candy.
Okay thanks, I appreciate it. The Death Star thing is odd to me. I ran the Ohio Death Star for years. It's got some citrus and a lot of skunk, but the Sour cut I'm after is way more lemony. But we may not be talking the same Death Star cut either. I've grown two of them, night and day different from each other. The Ohio cut will turn almost Jets black in the right conditions, and is one of the skunkier plants I've grown.
 

Jutachi

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Okay thanks, I appreciate it. The Death Star thing is odd to me. I ran the Ohio Death Star for years. It's got some citrus and a lot of skunk, but the Sour cut I'm after is way more lemony. But we may not be talking the same Death Star cut either. I've grown two of them, night and day different from each other. The Ohio cut will turn almost Jets black in the right conditions, and is one of the skunkier plants I've grown.
Grow some of Karmas gear or look for RiRi cut or Sour Dubble or something. You might have smoked a rez ibl or something. Ive yet to run into a lemon head candy flavored sour diesel, unless it was some sort of sour cross. Sour Diesel is known for straight mouth coating diesel gas nose crinkling flavor/smell. All the cuts out rn of sour going around right now are straight diesel gas/skunky none are lemon heads candy.
 

Wolverine97

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Grow some of Karmas gear or look for RiRi cut or Sour Dubble or something. You might have smoked a rez ibl or something. Ive yet to run into a lemon head candy flavored sour diesel, unless it was some sort of sour cross. Sour Diesel is known for straight mouth coating diesel gas nose crinkling flavor/smell. All the cuts out rn of sour going around right now are straight diesel gas/skunky none are lemon heads candy.
No man, not a rez cut, it was before he ever made those seeds. I thought it was a common knowledge thing that the original had that lemon head taste, with an "up" high.
 

Jutachi

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No man, not a rez cut, it was before he ever made those seeds. I thought it was a common knowledge thing that the original had that lemon head taste, with an "up" high.
Nah defininely not. Im not saying you havent had anything called sour that had that lemon head taste, but I doubt it was actually a pure sour diesel. All the sour diesel cuts going around are gassy diesel skunky, maybe a small lemony back end on nugs that arent as developed or chopped early, but not any lemon heads candy as the main taste. Ive smoked karma gear that has that sort of terp. Ive also heard the Riri cut has it as well. As well as some sour x kush crosses etc. If anyone comes across a cut with lemon heads candy as the main terps and its called sour diesel i'd be wary lol. Id be interested in it too though lol.
 

Wolverine97

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Nah defininely not. Im not saying you havent had anything called sour that had that lemon head taste, but I doubt it was actually a pure sour diesel. All the sour diesel cuts going around are gassy diesel skunky, maybe a small lemony back end on nugs that arent as developed or chopped early, but not any lemon heads candy as the main taste. Ive smoked karma gear that has that sort of terp. Ive also heard the Riri cut has it as well. As well as some sour x kush crosses etc. If anyone comes across a cut with lemon heads candy as the main terps and its called sour diesel i'd be wary lol. Id be interested in it too though lol.
What I am saying is that the lemon head flavor came from the very first Sour Diesel I ever had, and I had it multiple times. My cousin went to NYU in the late 90's/early 2000's. Whenever he came back here (2002-2004ish), he brought Sour Diesel, and Haze. This was pre Rez Dog, and long before any of these named cuts existed. I know this to be true. And I got that cut, from a very well known seed maker several years back, and lost it way too soon. It also has the Lemon Head taste and smell. So again, I'm not trying to get defensive here, but these are things I 100% know. What I don't know, is the names that should go with each, for certain. That is what I am trying to sort out here, well, that, and to find that cut again. I know what I had, and what it was.

If you go search some of the other 100 Sour threads, you will find other people talking about the Lemon Head flavor. It is always in reference to the "first" sour. And that lines up with my experience.

I did make some seeds with it, with a known male that I've worked with plenty. So I can always get into those seeds, should I decide to spend the effort. But I won't do that, until I find the cut again, so I can do a bx.
 

Jutachi

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What I am saying is that the lemon head flavor came from the very first Sour Diesel I ever had, and I had it multiple times. My cousin went to NYU in the late 90's/early 2000's. Whenever he came back here (2002-2004ish), he brought Sour Diesel, and Haze. This was pre Rez Dog, and long before any of these named cuts existed. I know this to be true. And I got that cut, from a very well known seed maker several years back, and lost it way too soon. It also has the Lemon Head taste and smell. So again, I'm not trying to get defensive here, but these are things I 100% know. What I don't know, is the names that should go with each, for certain. That is what I am trying to sort out here, well, that, and to find that cut again. I know what I had, and what it was.

If you go search some of the other 100 Sour threads, you will find other people talking about the Lemon Head flavor. It is always in reference to the "first" sour. And that lines up with my experience.

I did make some seeds with it, with a known male that I've worked with plenty. So I can always get into those seeds, should I decide to spend the effort. But I won't do that, until I find the cut again, so I can do a bx.
I hope you find it because im super interested in growing/trying it out. Even the guys who made the sour on podcasts and shit say its diesel gas skunky, no lemon heads or candy associated with Sour Diesel. Im not denying you had something called sour diesel with those type of terps though back then, maybe the guy who gave you it thought it was sour diesel or was calling it that. Other people ive seen mention lemon and citrus usually are talking about after rez releases not before. Either way if that specific "sour" is out there im definitely interested. Some of these cuts floating around are from before rez or held onto for 20+ years, in varying stages of health, with varying back stories to how they were attained/held onto for so long etc and i dont see any lemon heads candy in them. Ive ran into sour before in like 2014 that might of been what you're describing but I doubt it was a pure sour diesel, although it was being sold as just sour. Id like a cut myself of what you smoked in 2002-2004 with that description. Or maybe you smoked NYCD from Soma.
 
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JetLife175

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What I am saying is that the lemon head flavor came from the very first Sour Diesel I ever had, and I had it multiple times. My cousin went to NYU in the late 90's/early 2000's. Whenever he came back here (2002-2004ish), he brought Sour Diesel, and Haze. This was pre Rez Dog, and long before any of these named cuts existed. I know this to be true. And I got that cut, from a very well known seed maker several years back, and lost it way too soon. It also has the Lemon Head taste and smell. So again, I'm not trying to get defensive here, but these are things I 100% know. What I don't know, is the names that should go with each, for certain. That is what I am trying to sort out here, well, that, and to find that cut again. I know what I had, and what it was.

If you go search some of the other 100 Sour threads, you will find other people talking about the Lemon Head flavor. It is always in reference to the "first" sour. And that lines up with my experience.

I did make some seeds with it, with a known male that I've worked with plenty. So I can always get into those seeds, should I decide to spend the effort. But I won't do that, until I find the cut again, so I can do a bx.
I agree whole heartedly with everything you said. There used to be lemon in a cut or two floating around as sour. I haven't seen it in years.
 

Wolverine97

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I hope you find it because im super interested in growing/trying it out. Even the guys who made the sour on podcasts and shit say its diesel gas skunky, no lemon heads or candy associated with Sour Diesel. Im not denying you had something called sour diesel with those type of terps though back then, maybe the guy who gave you it thought it was sour diesel or was calling it that. Other people ive seen mention lemon and citrus usually are talking about after rez releases not before. Either way if that specific "sour" is out there im definitely interested. Some of these cuts floating around are from before rez or held onto for 20+ years, in varying stages of health, with varying back stories to how they were attained/held onto for so long etc and i dont see any lemon heads candy in them. Ive ran into sour before in like 2014 that might of been what you're describing but I doubt it was a pure sour diesel, although it was being sold as just sour. Id like a cut myself of what you smoked in 2002-2004 with that description. Or maybe you smoked NYCD from Soma.
It's real, and it's spectacular. ;
No man, not NYCD. I've ran that too. We had a grapefruit NYCD that was an absolute fucking monster. The most potent weed I have ever smoked. And I have grown/smoked most of the good things that are out there. Absolutely not NYCD, that isn't even the same gene pool really... And at this point I have said all I'm going to say to explain myself. I'm not into arguing on the internet.
 
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Chemdoge

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"diesel gas skunky" on the internet translates to: "it smells like plastic because I don't know how to grow."

Sour Diesel is sour lemon fuel (not Lemondrop).


Not plastic aka "gas". Not a significant skunk level either.

They don't have skunks in California so none of those people have a clue what a skunk smells like. They think weed is supposed to smell like shoe stores and upholstery shops. Cuz they do not know how to grow.
 

Wolverine97

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Another Plastikrubba drive by! Neat!
If you aren't going to change your manner, you may as well have kept your original account homie. You always say the same thing, in like every post.
I think everyone has been pretty clear about the skunkiness being mild, and I don't recall one single person mentioning "plastic"?
One of these days I'll get you to engage...
 

BerryManilow

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What I am saying is that the lemon head flavor came from the very first Sour Diesel I ever had, and I had it multiple times. My cousin went to NYU in the late 90's/early 2000's. Whenever he came back here (2002-2004ish), he brought Sour Diesel, and Haze. This was pre Rez Dog, and long before any of these named cuts existed. I know this to be true. And I got that cut, from a very well known seed maker several years back, and lost it way too soon. It also has the Lemon Head taste and smell. So again, I'm not trying to get defensive here, but these are things I 100% know. What I don't know, is the names that should go with each, for certain. That is what I am trying to sort out here, well, that, and to find that cut again. I know what I had, and what it was.

If you go search some of the other 100 Sour threads, you will find other people talking about the Lemon Head flavor. It is always in reference to the "first" sour. And that lines up with my experience.

I did make some seeds with it, with a known male that I've worked with plenty. So I can always get into those seeds, should I decide to spend the effort. But I won't do that, until I find the cut again, so I can do a bx.
You're describing what I have always known as Sour Diesel since around 2000 and same deal right from New York, and it's the stank out the whole block genuine Sour D. I wouldn't call it lemon or citrus but after tasting it again, it has a sour tart fuel taste. I can see why people say lemon heads. The sour is so upfront and takes over everything. Touch the plant and the smell lingers for hours. Once you take a toke, that mouth watering flavor stays with you for years.

I grew it for about a decade before I had to let it go for a while. That's the Sour that everybody has been looking for, but I don't think it's any of the cuts going around. Everybody would know which cut it is by now and it would be everywhere. Can't say for sure what the actual truth behind it is, but that's the cut.
 

BerryManilow

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I hope you find it because im super interested in growing/trying it out. Even the guys who made the sour on podcasts and shit say its diesel gas skunky, no lemon heads or candy associated with Sour Diesel. Im not denying you had something called sour diesel with those type of terps though back then, maybe the guy who gave you it thought it was sour diesel or was calling it that. Other people ive seen mention lemon and citrus usually are talking about after rez releases not before. Either way if that specific "sour" is out there im definitely interested. Some of these cuts floating around are from before rez or held onto for 20+ years, in varying stages of health, with varying back stories to how they were attained/held onto for so long etc and i dont see any lemon heads candy in them. Ive ran into sour before in like 2014 that might of been what you're describing but I doubt it was a pure sour diesel, although it was being sold as just sour. Id like a cut myself of what you smoked in 2002-2004 with that description. Or maybe you smoked NYCD from Soma.
The real Sour D has always had that sour tart lemon heads fuel as far back as the late 90s/early 2000s. Notice how all of these cuts have been grown by numerous people but they're "not it?" It's because everybody is chasing that same sour cut. If you've had it, you would know. That flavor, taste and smell is the reason why Sour is one of the most popular strains out there.
 

JetLife175

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"diesel gas skunky" on the internet translates to: "it smells like plastic because I don't know how to grow."

Sour Diesel is sour lemon fuel (not Lemondrop).


Not plastic aka "gas". Not a significant skunk level either.

They don't have skunks in California so none of those people have a clue what a skunk smells like. They think weed is supposed to smell like shoe stores and upholstery shops. Cuz they do not know how to grow.
I live in California and there is literally a family of skunks living in my backyard.

Not sure you really know what you're talking about there.....
 
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