sensi addict
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yeah,ive heard it.its why afghans etc dont smoke buds in the main...that and the fact its easier to carry hash in that sandpit.
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WILL YOU GO CRAZY IF YOU SMOKE UNPRESSED DRY SIFT RESIN?
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Luther Burbank
Sorry for getting offtopic but calling Afghanistan a sandpit isnt fair or accurate. It's a bit like calling America a sandpit because it contains the Mojave. Afghanistan can be a barren, rocky place, and the southern regions contain desert but it's not a giant desert. There are beautiful areas like Panshir Valley and the Chitral region.
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Luther Burbank
The Chitral region spans the murky Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The area is inhabited by tribes who have more in common with each other than with their respective governments. There's no wiki article for the area on the Afghani side of the border but I believe it is referred to as the Chitral region as well.
Yes, Panshir has a river, as do most of the agriculturally rich parts of the country. The northern forests are quite full of them. The problem is the image the country has. All Americans, Brits, etc saw was their troops fighting extremists in Helmund where things are sandier. I'm not trying to suggest that the place is all vegetation, but that it's dominant feature is its mountains and it's rockiness, not sand like Saudi Arabia or the UAE.
I know this isn't the most serious thread, but sorry for making a big deal about a minor comment. I have a lot of interest and love for Afghanistan and I think most people know very little about a place we spent over a decade occupying. The best thing that could happen is for every American to understand and know more about it. To make it worth dragging this thread off-topic, here's a picture of the Pallas' cat, a wild cat native to Northern Afghanistan.
Yes, Panshir has a river, as do most of the agriculturally rich parts of the country. The northern forests are quite full of them. The problem is the image the country has. All Americans, Brits, etc saw was their troops fighting extremists in Helmund where things are sandier. I'm not trying to suggest that the place is all vegetation, but that it's dominant feature is its mountains and it's rockiness, not sand like Saudi Arabia or the UAE.
I know this isn't the most serious thread, but sorry for making a big deal about a minor comment. I have a lot of interest and love for Afghanistan and I think most people know very little about a place we spent over a decade occupying. The best thing that could happen is for every American to understand and know more about it. To make it worth dragging this thread off-topic, here's a picture of the Pallas' cat, a wild cat native to Northern Afghanistan.
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sensi addict
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Yes,your right,stoopid choice of words and too near the media-line bullshit we get fed everyday,as your pics show its a beautiful and breath taking country with many micro climates,and i shoulda explained myself better,i was attempting to allude to the school of thought quoted by People like Robert Connell Clarke who have said that in part they attribute the hash culture to easier packaging and use in the more arid regions,but instead i used the above term and just sounded crass. Apologees!Luther,Kafiristan is one of the main tribes around chitral,they came from the lost kingdom of kafiristan [literally,land of the kufar,or infidel]and are thought to desend from alexander the great,but nobody can pinpoint just where the lost kingdom is,just that after being driven from it,they settled in the upper chitral valley!they worship the goat among other pagan entity's.
cannabis can bring latent psychoses to the surface (examples being BPD, schizophrenia, and other such disorders) so I could see a very strong concentrate bringing out some issues with extended use
anybody saying "one puff and you're crazy" is patently full of shit...then again, so are 75%+ people who even post on ICMag and other forums in general...lol
anybody saying "one puff and you're crazy" is patently full of shit...then again, so are 75%+ people who even post on ICMag and other forums in general...lol
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Luther Burbank
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The story I read about the Hash Culture was of folks from Xiang Xing migrating from the North. Over the mountains through a pass . Into Pakistan then travelling West and North and settling . Basically on the Southern side of the ranges they had lived North of previously. Hash making is relatively new in those regions .
Also that NLD is indigenous to Xiang Xing and the BLD was collected on the migration .
As Sam was a reference for the book I read. Maybe we can tease some anecdotes from him ??
Not smoked unpressed sift . Unpressed bubble yes . Crazy ? Why ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
The story I read about the Hash Culture was of folks from Xiang Xing migrating from the North. Over the mountains through a pass . Into Pakistan then travelling West and North and settling . Basically on the Southern side of the ranges they had lived North of previously. Hash making is relatively new in those regions .
Also that NLD is indigenous to Xiang Xing and the BLD was collected on the migration .
As Sam was a reference for the book I read. Maybe we can tease some anecdotes from him ??
Not smoked unpressed sift . Unpressed bubble yes . Crazy ? Why ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
Ive heard it, online from people who have traveled across Asia, also that smoking weed is bad for your mind (particularly un-cured weed) whereas high quality pressed hash is the choice smoke.
I do find uncured weed can have a more confusing and rushy effect, and its been shown that curing not only matures the resin but chemical changes take place, including increase of CBN.
Perhaps pressing the resin has a similar effect whereby the resin oxidizes (it is often left to cure for a year or more after pressing).
I do find uncured weed can have a more confusing and rushy effect, and its been shown that curing not only matures the resin but chemical changes take place, including increase of CBN.
Perhaps pressing the resin has a similar effect whereby the resin oxidizes (it is often left to cure for a year or more after pressing).
A Pakistani hashish seller shows off his "black gold" in the country's northern tribal region.
By Abubakar Siddique
June 02, 2012
Pakistan's Goat-Grown Hashish
For Noor Muhammad Afridi, dealing in "Awal Namber Garda" is more than just his life's work.
By providing the black, sticky hashish that keeps his customers very happy, he's keeping up a long family tradition.
Just like his forefathers in the Afridi clan, the 32-year-old from Pakistan's tribal areas along the Pakistan-Afghan border has become a connoisseur of the local delicacy, aged to perfection with a centuries-old technique.
"If you put [freshly prepared] hash resin into a goatskin or a sheepskin, it matures into something very good," he says. "It is well-preserved inside the skin, which also adds oil to it."
The technique is believed to greatly enhance the hashish's quality and, more importantly for its users, its effect.
If the end product makes the cut, it earns the right to join the prize sheepskins hanging from the rafters of Afridi's hash shop in Jamrud, gateway to the Khyber Pass.
'Top-Grade Dust'
Hashish is illegal in Pakistan. But it's easily available and widely consumed in the country's largely lawless northern tribal region.
To obtain Awal Namber Garda, Pashto for "top-grade dust," Afridi must travel from the plains of Jamrud to his clan's ancestral lands in the nearby mountains of Tirah Maidan.
There, a moderate climate, red soil, and locals skilled in the craft of cannabis combine to produce what is renowned as the region's best hashish.
It is an arduous journey made by way of rides in open pickup trucks and steep hikes, but it can yield huge revenues.
Every gram guarantees profit -- Afridi can fetch up to $500 a kilogram for Awal Namber Garda -- and, if all goes well, Afridi has plenty to stock his shop.
The process begins once carefully cultivated marijuana plants have been cut and hung upside down.
After they have dried, a thin cloth is used to carefully thresh the plants to collect the glistening, hairlike resin glands protruding from the buds and upper leaves.
The residue is crushed into a fine, malleable powder -- the main ingredient for making what, for Afridi, is black gold.
The next step involves goats and sheep that locals slaughter in celebration of a good cannabis harvest.
The longer the hashish is kept inside the skin of a freshly slaughtered animal, the better -- three months at least, says Afridi. The process works best during the hot summer months, but direct sunlight must be avoided.
A hashish seller shows off his best-quality product, preserved in goatskin.
Shah Mahmud, 55, is the type of farmer who Afridi has watched since childhood tending to cannabis on the tiny terraced fields of the Tirah Maidan.
Mahmud says the resin powder is stitched into the skins, which each hold six to 10 kilograms of hashish.
'Not A Bad Addiction'
Drawing on his experience of decades of hash use, Mahmud claims that when the process is completed, Awal Namber Garda is beyond compare.
"Its outstanding quality is that the oil has enhanced its effect," he says. "If it's dry, it loses its effect and smoking it even causes headaches. The [summer] heat is like an enemy of Garda. If you protect it from the heat properly, nothing can harm it."
While hashish available outside Khyber is often adulterated with henna, chewing gum, or even chemicals, Mahmud maintains that the hashish prepared in the Tirah Maidan is the real deal.
"Hashish is not a bad addiction even if you smoke it for 50 or 60 years," he says. "Cigarettes are more dangerous because each one you smoke reduces your age by a minute. Garda doesn't dry out your mind. A charsi (hashish smoker) is always straightforward."
Afridi seconds the notion and says that locals use hashish to treat many diseases.
He insists that few of his regular customers ever get sick.
"Awal Namber Garda is very good," he says. "The second- and third-rate hashish is considered very bad because its effect is similar to your brain being squeezed very hard."
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Luther Burbank
Elmer, a great little read! Thank you for sharing that!
I've heard that you shouldnt smoke resin thats less than a years old or it will make you go mad (from India) - I couldn't tell you if was true, I was already bat-shit to begin with...
why is India not on the list of countries? so much hash is made there & i was told that good hash from uttrakhand region can make you go nuts.
JointOperation
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I remember hearing an old timer say any and all extracts will make you crazy.. he was a grower.. he didn't even use his trim or collect his kief.. I remember going over there and seeing like 10 lbs of fucking trim.. and he was mixing it into his compost pile. im like NOOOOOOOO ill take it all . this was in the STATES. northeast to be specific.
crazy is relative. some purported chinese medical text is alleged to say smoking cannabis leaves makes you see demons?
but look at cultures. just about every human culture persists through sexual intercourse, which is a state of becoming so affected by conditions on this planet that one does something less than rational. i will not have my sanity judged by anyone who thinks that ejaculating seminal fluid is an accomplishment. y'all can huddle round the traditions that keep you human, with finite human concerns and awarenesses, i'm here to fuck shit up, not fuck shit.
UP in smoke.
but look at cultures. just about every human culture persists through sexual intercourse, which is a state of becoming so affected by conditions on this planet that one does something less than rational. i will not have my sanity judged by anyone who thinks that ejaculating seminal fluid is an accomplishment. y'all can huddle round the traditions that keep you human, with finite human concerns and awarenesses, i'm here to fuck shit up, not fuck shit.
UP in smoke.
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sourpuss
Thought this was an insane notion.... im going back to pressed hash haha.... regardless if its true or not it can be a placebo at the least.....
Back to pressed hash.....
Back to pressed hash.....
