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Even drones have pilots. just thousands of miles away....
Where in the World Is Diego Garcia?
A strategic U.K. and U.S. airbase with a dark history
by Borgna Brunner
Surrounding Islands of Diego Garcia
British Indian Ocean Territory, a dependency of the United Kingdom, includes Diego Garcia.
Few could accuse you of ignorance for never having heard of Diego Garcia—much less for not knowing that it's not a person but an island. One of the most obscure and far-flung places on earth, Diego Garcia doesn't come tripping off the tongue of even the most geographically sophisticated.
There are times, however, when the U.S. military has considered this 17-square-mile atoll of coral and sand in the middle of the Indian Ocean one of the most valuable pieces of real estate on Earth.
A British Territory, Leased to the United States
The Portuguese explored Diego Garcia in the 1500s (it is named for a Portuguese navigator). Between 1814 and 1965 it was a territory of Mauritius. It then became part of the Chagos Archipelago, which belonged to the newly created British Indian Ocean Territory. In 1970, the island was leased to the United States, and developed as a joint U.S.-UK air and naval refueling and support station during the cold war. Located in the middle of the Indian Ocean and out of cyclone range, it was ideal for keeping an eye on the Soviet Union.
A Strategic Air Base
Diego Garcia proved to be critically important as a refueling base during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, and during Operation Desert Fox, it served as a base for B-52 bombers, which on Dec. 17, 1998, launched nearly 100 long-range cruise missiles aimed at Iraq. Beginning on Oct. 7, 2001, the United States again used Diego Garcia when it launched B-2 and B-52 bombers attacks against Afghanistan. In the current British and American-led war against Iraq, Diego Garcia has once again played a crucial strategic role.
The fact that Diego Garcia is more than 3,000 miles south of Iraq, and just a shade closer to Afghanistan, has not posed the logistical problems one might expect. According to the U.S. Air Force, B-52s have an "unrefueled combat range in excess of 8,800 miles."
The Military Base Today
In 2006, about 40 British and 1,000 U.S. military personnel, and 2,400 support workers of various nationalities (primarily Filipino and Sri Lankan) reside there. A number of al-Qaeda suspects are thought to be held and interrogated on the island (although the U.S. military will not confirm this), including Hambali (Riduan Isamuddin), the leader of the Asian terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah, responsible for the 2002 terrorist bombing in Bali.
Map of Diego Garcia
Forced Removal of the Indigenous Inhabitants
Although Diego Garcia once had a small native population, the inhabitants, known as the Ilois, or the Chagossians, were forced to relocate (1967–1973) so that the island could be turned into the U.S. military base. Most of the roughly 1,500 displaced Chagossians were agricultural workers and fisherman. Uprooted and robbed of their livelihood, the Chagossians now live in poverty in Mauritius's urban slums, more than 1,000 miles from their homeland. A smaller number were deported to the Seychelles. About 850 islanders forced off Diego Garcia are alive today, and another 4,300 Chagossians have been born in exile. A 2003 60 Minutes segment and a 2004 documentary by Australian journalist and filmmaker John Pilger, Stealing a Nation, have done much to publicize the little-known plight of the islanders.
The Chagossians' Search for Justice
The Chagossians have turned to the British courts to fight for the right to return to their homeland. In 2000, a British court ruled that the order to evacuate Diego Garcia's inhabitants was invalid, but the court also upheld the island's military status, which permits only personnel authorized by the military to inhabit the island. The Ilois also sued the British government for compensation, but in Oct. 2003 a British judge ruled that although the Chagossians had been treated "shamefully" by the government, their claims were unfounded.
A Further Setback
To further thwart the Chagossians' claims—and as a result of strong pressure from the U.S., which has cited security reasons for keeping the islanders from returning—the British government issued an "Order of Council" in 2004, prohibiting islanders from ever returning to Diego Garcia. This archaic, centuries-old royal prerogative permitted the Blair government to overrule the 2000 High court verdict.
Vindication
But in May 2006, the High Court in London ruled that the Chagossians may in fact return to other Chagossian islands, and offered a withering assessment of the British conduct in the case, calling it "outrageous, unlawful and a breach of accepted moral standards."
"The suggestion that a minister can, through an Order in Council, exile a whole population from a British Overseas Territory and claim he is doing so for the 'peace, order and good government' of the Territory is repugnant."
American Resistance
The Chagossians have accepted that they cannot return to Diego Garcia because of the U.S. airbase, but this new verdict paves the way for the islanders to move elsewhere in the Chagos archipelago, to the Salomon islands and Peros Banhos, which are more than 100 miles from Diego Garcia. The U.S., however, is opposed to anyone other than military personnel and their employees living anywhere in the Chagos archipelago, asserting that security will be compromised. According to a State Department official, Lincoln Bloomfield Jr., allowing civilians in the archipelago could potentially lead to "terrorists infiltrating the islands." Having finally triumphed in a hard-won and lengthy legal battle, the Chagossians now find themselves at loggerheads with the world's superpower.
Read more: Where in the World Is Diego Garcia? | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/dg.html#ixzz2xb3528gT
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http://www.cnic.navy.mil/regions/cnrj/installations/nsf_diego_garcia.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2eQ3XGqMWA
[youtubeif]p2eQ3XGqMWA[/youtubeif]
this strategic US military base, within range of the 777 fuel capacity, would have radar data noting any intrusions into it's airspace and would respond to any event...or allow landing since there would be no other alternative at that point other than let it founder.
the pilot had flight simulator with deleted files for Diego Garcia, sighting in the Maldives just a couple hundred miles north of there.
smacks of alphabet agency involvement.
A strategic U.K. and U.S. airbase with a dark history
by Borgna Brunner
Surrounding Islands of Diego Garcia
British Indian Ocean Territory, a dependency of the United Kingdom, includes Diego Garcia.
Few could accuse you of ignorance for never having heard of Diego Garcia—much less for not knowing that it's not a person but an island. One of the most obscure and far-flung places on earth, Diego Garcia doesn't come tripping off the tongue of even the most geographically sophisticated.
There are times, however, when the U.S. military has considered this 17-square-mile atoll of coral and sand in the middle of the Indian Ocean one of the most valuable pieces of real estate on Earth.
A British Territory, Leased to the United States
The Portuguese explored Diego Garcia in the 1500s (it is named for a Portuguese navigator). Between 1814 and 1965 it was a territory of Mauritius. It then became part of the Chagos Archipelago, which belonged to the newly created British Indian Ocean Territory. In 1970, the island was leased to the United States, and developed as a joint U.S.-UK air and naval refueling and support station during the cold war. Located in the middle of the Indian Ocean and out of cyclone range, it was ideal for keeping an eye on the Soviet Union.
A Strategic Air Base
Diego Garcia proved to be critically important as a refueling base during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, and during Operation Desert Fox, it served as a base for B-52 bombers, which on Dec. 17, 1998, launched nearly 100 long-range cruise missiles aimed at Iraq. Beginning on Oct. 7, 2001, the United States again used Diego Garcia when it launched B-2 and B-52 bombers attacks against Afghanistan. In the current British and American-led war against Iraq, Diego Garcia has once again played a crucial strategic role.
The fact that Diego Garcia is more than 3,000 miles south of Iraq, and just a shade closer to Afghanistan, has not posed the logistical problems one might expect. According to the U.S. Air Force, B-52s have an "unrefueled combat range in excess of 8,800 miles."
The Military Base Today
In 2006, about 40 British and 1,000 U.S. military personnel, and 2,400 support workers of various nationalities (primarily Filipino and Sri Lankan) reside there. A number of al-Qaeda suspects are thought to be held and interrogated on the island (although the U.S. military will not confirm this), including Hambali (Riduan Isamuddin), the leader of the Asian terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah, responsible for the 2002 terrorist bombing in Bali.
Map of Diego Garcia
Forced Removal of the Indigenous Inhabitants
Although Diego Garcia once had a small native population, the inhabitants, known as the Ilois, or the Chagossians, were forced to relocate (1967–1973) so that the island could be turned into the U.S. military base. Most of the roughly 1,500 displaced Chagossians were agricultural workers and fisherman. Uprooted and robbed of their livelihood, the Chagossians now live in poverty in Mauritius's urban slums, more than 1,000 miles from their homeland. A smaller number were deported to the Seychelles. About 850 islanders forced off Diego Garcia are alive today, and another 4,300 Chagossians have been born in exile. A 2003 60 Minutes segment and a 2004 documentary by Australian journalist and filmmaker John Pilger, Stealing a Nation, have done much to publicize the little-known plight of the islanders.
The Chagossians' Search for Justice
The Chagossians have turned to the British courts to fight for the right to return to their homeland. In 2000, a British court ruled that the order to evacuate Diego Garcia's inhabitants was invalid, but the court also upheld the island's military status, which permits only personnel authorized by the military to inhabit the island. The Ilois also sued the British government for compensation, but in Oct. 2003 a British judge ruled that although the Chagossians had been treated "shamefully" by the government, their claims were unfounded.
A Further Setback
To further thwart the Chagossians' claims—and as a result of strong pressure from the U.S., which has cited security reasons for keeping the islanders from returning—the British government issued an "Order of Council" in 2004, prohibiting islanders from ever returning to Diego Garcia. This archaic, centuries-old royal prerogative permitted the Blair government to overrule the 2000 High court verdict.
Vindication
But in May 2006, the High Court in London ruled that the Chagossians may in fact return to other Chagossian islands, and offered a withering assessment of the British conduct in the case, calling it "outrageous, unlawful and a breach of accepted moral standards."
"The suggestion that a minister can, through an Order in Council, exile a whole population from a British Overseas Territory and claim he is doing so for the 'peace, order and good government' of the Territory is repugnant."
American Resistance
The Chagossians have accepted that they cannot return to Diego Garcia because of the U.S. airbase, but this new verdict paves the way for the islanders to move elsewhere in the Chagos archipelago, to the Salomon islands and Peros Banhos, which are more than 100 miles from Diego Garcia. The U.S., however, is opposed to anyone other than military personnel and their employees living anywhere in the Chagos archipelago, asserting that security will be compromised. According to a State Department official, Lincoln Bloomfield Jr., allowing civilians in the archipelago could potentially lead to "terrorists infiltrating the islands." Having finally triumphed in a hard-won and lengthy legal battle, the Chagossians now find themselves at loggerheads with the world's superpower.
Read more: Where in the World Is Diego Garcia? | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/dg.html#ixzz2xb3528gT
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http://www.cnic.navy.mil/regions/cnrj/installations/nsf_diego_garcia.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2eQ3XGqMWA
[youtubeif]p2eQ3XGqMWA[/youtubeif]
this strategic US military base, within range of the 777 fuel capacity, would have radar data noting any intrusions into it's airspace and would respond to any event...or allow landing since there would be no other alternative at that point other than let it founder.
the pilot had flight simulator with deleted files for Diego Garcia, sighting in the Maldives just a couple hundred miles north of there.
smacks of alphabet agency involvement.
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Ive worked at Atlanta Hartz Field airport, the busiest airport in the country. On a slow day, we had planes landing and taking off, every 5mins, on a fast day every 1 min. 24hrs a day, 7 days a week, 360 per year. That's just for Atlanta, now add NYC and JFK, Chicago, LA, Tokyo, Hong kong. Miami.. I don't think you understand how many airplanes are flying at all times of the day, everyday, all day, year around.
The plane probably change tail numbers and is flying as I write this. It impossible to track every airplane in the world.
The plane probably change tail numbers and is flying as I write this. It impossible to track every airplane in the world.
The only things the planes cant do is land themselves
They cant be taken over or controlled from the ground yet.
Boeing applied for a patent ten years ago, but they wont talk about it.
The problem with controlling them like a drone would be fear of a hacker taking over
What I dont understand is how these fucks can make all these wild claims without any evidence to support any such theories.
The worst part is they get paid for this shit and are still taken seriously when the next big media story happens and they do the same shit
Fully automated flights could be safer someday, just like cars that drive themselves. Automated control systems have the potential to be orders of magnitude safer. Lots of testing would be needed, of course. The whole idea might never get off the ground so to speak if people aren't willing to fly on pilotless aircraft.
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In that area of the world the ocean is a dumping ground. Every time I here they spotted something new I tell my wife it's trash and it always is. China doesn't care about the air we breath so why worry about the litter. We lost 5 US navy fighters back in the 50's or 60's all at the same time never found them not even 1 trace. A lot of people think they have found a trace of the 5 but nothing proven. Even if it is a different part of the world if they cannot find them 5 they probably won't find this either. I think Air France from Brazil only took a week find
The head of the search just said that wreckage may never be found, and said authorities have a very poor understanding of how far and fast it travelled. Don't know if he means how far and fast the plane travelled or the wreckage.
I mean if the plane hit the water hard and broke up then you would expect items in the passengers luggage and the hold that floated to be floating around.
But if the pilot or hijackers landed the plane gently then it may have stayed mainly intact and then the whole thing sunk without releasing much wreckage.
They are assuming it flew till it ran out of fuel, and basing their estimates of where it could have ended up from that, but what if the pilot or whoever ditched it into the sea before it ran out of fuel?
I mean if the plane hit the water hard and broke up then you would expect items in the passengers luggage and the hold that floated to be floating around.
But if the pilot or hijackers landed the plane gently then it may have stayed mainly intact and then the whole thing sunk without releasing much wreckage.
They are assuming it flew till it ran out of fuel, and basing their estimates of where it could have ended up from that, but what if the pilot or whoever ditched it into the sea before it ran out of fuel?
You are being fed news no matter what anyone thinks the truth is NOT IN OUR NEWS!!... Ask the Rothchild Family what's up I bet they know.. headband 707
They will find it today in China and say April fool...
Flight MH370’s Disappearance Is Now a Criminal Investigation
The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 — specifically the turn it took off course — has now been classified as a criminal investigation, according to Malaysia’s police chief.
The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 — specifically the turn it took off course — has now been classified as a criminal investigation, according to Malaysia’s police chief. He also cautioned that their investigation may still not arrive at any concrete conclusions.
According to CNN, radar and satellite data show the flight turning off course and flying back across Malaysia before heading out over the Indian Ocean. That change of course is being investigated as a “criminal act.” There is no information as to who committed the supposed criminal act.
Meanwhile, lawyers have already begun contacting families of those on board about possible multimillion-dollar settlements in U.S. courts over the incident. One law firm is floating the idea of legal action against Boeing, the plane’s manufacturer, although the obviously imprecise nature of the case makes it unprecedented. From The New York Times:
The rush is on to secure compensation for families of the flight’s 227 passengers, about two-thirds of whom are Chinese. Insurance companies [in China] have already made payments to some relatives. On top of that, the families can expect to receive compensation from Malaysia Airlines because of guarantees in an international treaty. They can also opt to sue the airline for more damages, or sue Boeing or a component manufacturer. Any lawsuit could take years to conclude.
Some families are reluctant to take legal action or even accept the payments required by international treaties in an event such as this one, instead hoping that the plane will still be found or suspecting that there is still information being covered up.
http://news.msn.com/world/flight-mh370%e2%80%99s-disappearance-is-now-a-criminal-investigation
The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 — specifically the turn it took off course — has now been classified as a criminal investigation, according to Malaysia’s police chief.
The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 — specifically the turn it took off course — has now been classified as a criminal investigation, according to Malaysia’s police chief. He also cautioned that their investigation may still not arrive at any concrete conclusions.
According to CNN, radar and satellite data show the flight turning off course and flying back across Malaysia before heading out over the Indian Ocean. That change of course is being investigated as a “criminal act.” There is no information as to who committed the supposed criminal act.
Meanwhile, lawyers have already begun contacting families of those on board about possible multimillion-dollar settlements in U.S. courts over the incident. One law firm is floating the idea of legal action against Boeing, the plane’s manufacturer, although the obviously imprecise nature of the case makes it unprecedented. From The New York Times:
The rush is on to secure compensation for families of the flight’s 227 passengers, about two-thirds of whom are Chinese. Insurance companies [in China] have already made payments to some relatives. On top of that, the families can expect to receive compensation from Malaysia Airlines because of guarantees in an international treaty. They can also opt to sue the airline for more damages, or sue Boeing or a component manufacturer. Any lawsuit could take years to conclude.
Some families are reluctant to take legal action or even accept the payments required by international treaties in an event such as this one, instead hoping that the plane will still be found or suspecting that there is still information being covered up.
http://news.msn.com/world/flight-mh370%e2%80%99s-disappearance-is-now-a-criminal-investigation
Here's a couple very interesting interview segments
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Click n the 2 David Hawkins Interviews
She is a power house exposing the sadist goings on
Her website is Project Camelot
http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/
Click n the 2 David Hawkins Interviews
She is a power house exposing the sadist goings on
Her website is Project Camelot
Everybody is looking in the wrong place , Southern Indian ocean my arse , it`s landed on the moon .
Seriously though , if it is in the sea it could be up to 2mile deep so it may not be found for years . The subs out there are high spec but it`s a big area .
Maybe one day the truth will be known but it`s already shook up those involved in all aspects of aviation & changes will be made .
Seriously though , if it is in the sea it could be up to 2mile deep so it may not be found for years . The subs out there are high spec but it`s a big area .
Maybe one day the truth will be known but it`s already shook up those involved in all aspects of aviation & changes will be made .
....... and the guys with the best subs are not going to tell us what they actually can do, or that they were there in the first place. this could take a minute
Yes it could be two miles deep and the black box provided on every plane according to the idiot airlines should be beeping as to where exactly it is. For the plane to be gone this long means their was an inside job all the way . Again ask the 1% what happened I would bet they know.. stay frosty and stop listening to our bullshit news/TV headband 707
Like a needle in the hay stack except they can't find the haystack...
