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will the real MTF please stand up

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Paco

bump :joint:
i have been looking for the mtf for so long. this is the most tangible it has become
paco
 
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Greyskull

Paco said:
bump :joint:
i have been looking for the mtf for so long. this is the most tangible it has become
paco

It rates among the best smoke I've had...

I was lucky to be "gifted" the cut and am looking forward to growing her for many, many years.





 

superjoint

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grey loving those mattys, it is one of my fav smokes to . been crossing a male from her with everything. the tang side of her comes over nice in everything so far, got the original to .and the atf which is not related but Dank none the less.
 

marijuanamat

Crazy X Seeds Breeder
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Is there ruderalis in the original MTF like it says there is in greg greens cannabis breeders bible?
Cos thats the only source that i've heard that claim from.
 

mtf-shaman

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^^not sure but i have that book too so i will look in all the ones i have.....

been sick as dog for a few weeks, feeling some better now
 
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Greyskull

^^^^ I will cross reference my materials as well...

mtf-shaman bummer to hear about the poor health. hope you are 100% soon.
 

-VT-

Voluptuous Trichomes
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Bump

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Get well soon kermit :wave:

Greyskull, looking good...I can see the sugar on those babies...they're gettin' sticky! You got 'em lookin' very healthy and happy...keep the pics comin'!! (and get us some closeups of that sugar if you can???)
 

mtf-shaman

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stoned cold those sound tasty!!i am all for yummies!!got to dig out my books, it got kind of crowded during harvy daze
 
mtf-shaman said:
stoned cold those sound tasty!!i am all for yummies!!got to dig out my books, it got kind of crowded during harvy daze

Thanks. I cant wait to see about this stubby little MVTF grape pheno! I think it's either a 4th or 6th generation back cross, I cant remember as it was gifted to me by a good friend.

Not the best picture, and not exactly 'standing up' but surely 'the real MTF'...


 
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Greyskull

I'd feel so accomplished if I ever learn to grow mine like yours SC. WOW...

Nonetheless some recent pics... Week 5 day 6


NOTE: You can see the leaves curling up at the edges... I think I gave them a bit to many ppms last week (1900! :redface: Oops...).


 
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mtf-shaman

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i dug out the books and posted in greyskull's mtf coco grow thread.....i can put it here too if y'all want it.....
 
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Greyskull

Here it is:
mtf-shaman said:
ok, i finally got the chance to go through my books and the followng is from greg greens cannabis breeder's bible, pg 116-117, printed 2005

"MATANUSKA VALLEY THUNDER****

The matanuska valley in alaska is a wonderful place to visit. alaska became a very popular settlement for hippies who had left the cities in america and canada to travel the world. most of them wanted to grow pot when they got home from their tour of the globe and so alaska seemed like an interesting place to settle down in. today you find that alaska is home to a large cannabis community. it is very common to find whole villages and towns that like nothing better than to sit down and have a spliff. there are many people who live the hippie life in communes there or deep in the woods with their families in log cabins they have made. these people are not poor or neglected parts of the community. they are people who have chosen a more relaxing, natural and healthy way of life.

in the '70's, work began on a strain that could withstand the extreme climatic conditions of alaskan cold weather. since sativa and indica plants are rarely found growing naturally in the wild in countries that have a cold climate another species would have to be used. ruderalis is a very popular species of cannabis found in cold climates. ruderalis was used in the development of MTF because of its thick leaves and weather-proof sturdiness. the alaskan people started to cross ruderalis strains with high-yielding indica plants. the result was a new strain of the indica-ruderalis species called MTF.

MTF is very popular in canada and america because of its high-yielding produce and heavy stone effect. however the plant has auto-flowering values which do not make it very popular among all or most growers.

the other factor you should know about is that the original MTF is only available in clone format. there are no seeds because the original creator of this strain did not release seeds onto the market. the original creator of this strain probably found a good mother plant and did not true breed her traits because there was no need to do so if the clone format was the only release he or she was going to do. the original propagation of the strain took place in the matanuska-suisitna valley, and was done in clone format. since then many breeders have tried to replicate the strain by breeding more indica into the plant. i have heard many people claim that there is now a version of MTF called MT on the market. i have seen this strain and it appears to be a new hybrid version of MTF. it is more indica in appearance and contains to visible traces of ruderalis, although it does have a hint of some auto-flowering properties.

it is nearly always the case with successful clones. since clones do not require any homozygous breeding the breeder who wishes to continue the strain via cloning will have to work very hard to stabilize a hybrid strain of it. one possible way of doing this is to find one of the parent plants that the MTF came from. the parent could then be used in a backcross to create seeds that resemble the original MTF mother plant with some variations. the breeder could then try to lock down the traits that most represent the original clone mother. it appears that there are many breeders out there who are working on such clone strains. some of the most famous clone plants known to growers around the world are:

matanuska valley thunder****, cali'O, humboldt, chemo, g-13, bc big bud, champagne, willem's wonder, bc hash plant"


i got finger cramps now, going to go and hit a bowl or two....lol
got a little more info but this should suffice for now
 

Chili_berkster

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Thats some cool info. I didn't realize the MTF had ruderalis genes in it. It vegges fine for me under 24 hours light lol.
 
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Greyskull

Chili_berkster said:
Thats some cool info. I didn't realize the MTF had ruderalis genes in it. It vegges fine for me under 24 hours light lol.

I read that and went :jawdrop: 'cause mine does the same thing.... vegges fine under 24hrs light.
 
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