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Why growing with partners wont work...let's hear your opinion
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Partners who want to show off that "they're a grower" are the worst, the only people who know I grow heard it from my former partner when I first started up, I denied it to them, cut ties with him, he's on the road to prison, I'd rather stay at home.
If you really need to show off your stuff, you really need to tell someone about these god damn fucking mites or let someone experience how intoxicating the flower room is right now, get a baby.
Under a year old preferably.
They will look at you're lovely work with wonder and awe. They will listen to everything you say, they wont ask questions, they wont tell ANYONE.
Be careful though. They like to look at bright lights. A 1000w HPS cant be good for developing eyeballs. Turn the grow lights off and use some standard room lighting.
They also like to touch everything and if they get a hold of anything it will end up ripped off, in their mouth or on the ground in pieces.
You can probably find a baby on craigslist. You dont have to buy it outright, you can probably rent them for the day.
Under a year old preferably.
They will look at you're lovely work with wonder and awe. They will listen to everything you say, they wont ask questions, they wont tell ANYONE.
Be careful though. They like to look at bright lights. A 1000w HPS cant be good for developing eyeballs. Turn the grow lights off and use some standard room lighting.
They also like to touch everything and if they get a hold of anything it will end up ripped off, in their mouth or on the ground in pieces.
You can probably find a baby on craigslist. You dont have to buy it outright, you can probably rent them for the day.
Raziel819
Active member
Well my story is this... my brother came by saying that he had to move his outdoor grow cause his girl was freakin out when she found it it her yard. Asked me if I could take half and grow them up. Well I did and the arrangement that we had was 60/40 if I could also look after the other half that he was gonna setup somewhere else. Well I declined on watchin the other babies and said you grow out the ones you got and I'll grow out these. You can tell from my convo that they where all unknown...so out of 7 that he gave me only 3 turned out to be girls. My place is not a place for a stealth outdoor grow so for me it was gonna have to be an indoor grow, had to wait over a month to get them into my setup since I hadn't even built it, I had been talking about building a hydro setup for months but since I hadn't cracked a seed it had fallen to the very last burner. With all that this is what it boils down to. I think he had 4 or 5 girls never did find out what his final weight was, but of the 3 girls I had one died from root rot and the other 2??? Well the smallest yielded and bit over 2 zips dry its just starting its cure, the other which was twice as branchy looks like it should yield twice if not three times as much as the other ( I have to wait and see just chopped her today). But get this... he still feels that he should get 60%.... he didn't help me build the room for the plants, (hydro remember), didn't help me with the lights ($), nor the nukes, or none of the other things (equipment) that's needed for a hydro grow.
Well needless to say he won't be getting 60% just because he supplied plants to be grown especially since he didn't supply ANYTHING else. I will split it 50/50 with him only because he's my older brother... Boy I wish I could stick to my guns with him cause at first I was gonna flip the 60/40 split and give him the 40%. Damn I wish that little brother big brother guilt didn't hit me. But I'm gonna re-veg those 2 girls and get a larger better crop in, I know what I did wrong the first time around and will not be making those same mistakes on the next go.
So as to having a partner... its still mixed emotions... but not again with the small setup I have, if he wants me to partner up and share what I've learned to be his farmer? He'll have to supply the location, the setup and all the other incidentals that will go with a grow. Then I'll be his huckleberry for 30% after all he's still my brother and I love him
Well needless to say he won't be getting 60% just because he supplied plants to be grown especially since he didn't supply ANYTHING else. I will split it 50/50 with him only because he's my older brother... Boy I wish I could stick to my guns with him cause at first I was gonna flip the 60/40 split and give him the 40%. Damn I wish that little brother big brother guilt didn't hit me. But I'm gonna re-veg those 2 girls and get a larger better crop in, I know what I did wrong the first time around and will not be making those same mistakes on the next go.
So as to having a partner... its still mixed emotions... but not again with the small setup I have, if he wants me to partner up and share what I've learned to be his farmer? He'll have to supply the location, the setup and all the other incidentals that will go with a grow. Then I'll be his huckleberry for 30% after all he's still my brother and I love him
1st partnership I had was my swearing that it would be the last. he had the passion but didn't lack the know how, he thought it was simple and it wasn't, wasn't willing to put in the time necessary. this is the last scene I walk in on of the grow room: he's sneezing his ass off/ the thripes are pretty flying around the grow room in formation squadrons (that's how they went unchecked) and what I thought was dusty cobb webs were actually the webs of the spidermites that were full of spider-mites at the time as well as the plants I say dude what the fuck and he says to me (now you have to say this in your head in your best Dominican accent) "oh my god, is that what that is? holy shit I thought it was just regular spiders"
because of this dumb fuck I lost the first cuts I ever got from ArtOfMakingFire and I mean these were some quality cuts too (the white, dabney blue and I think there were one or two others) ran out of space and couldnt plant them properly so they died on me.
a lot of time passes, I reconnect with a cat from my old job and he's having problems with a guy he partnered up with on a grow op. my friend was/is the money and the other dude is growing. grower is pretty much giving him the run around and not letting my boy see any profits BUT is bragging about the profits he's making off of some side shit he has going on involving the grow; just plain fucking stupid if you ask me.
now we partner up BUT its the best thing. I guess im the grower and hes the broker but were cool with that. cool cat too, guy has his wits about him, doesn't like to talk too much or to too many ppl, theres a general/mutual respect already inplace between us. I grow the plants he sells it to the market we split it al 50/50; he's happy im happy so said so done
partnerships can work BUT everyone involved has to know their lane and stay in it. he has all the connects to make things move and I don't know a soul in that arena (my first grow was 3/4lb of SSH and I was more than happy smoking every last trichome covered leaf of it on my own), I want to grow massive plants in order to have an overabundance of weed and he has no clue about plants but wants to learn so in the end it works and can slowly grow to be stronger because we both have something that the other can genuinely utilize for the betterment of the partnership.
this shit has me feelin so good i was thinking about starting a diary BUT im gonna chill out on the diaries for now, winter is coming up, storms are coming through so I don't wanna start anything up again until I get through it completely! may just do one of those "after the fact" diaries though.
IMHO yeah partnerships can work BUT you gotta know your part in the grand scheme of things and play it to the best of your ability, don't come to the table half-assin'!!!
because of this dumb fuck I lost the first cuts I ever got from ArtOfMakingFire and I mean these were some quality cuts too (the white, dabney blue and I think there were one or two others) ran out of space and couldnt plant them properly so they died on me.
a lot of time passes, I reconnect with a cat from my old job and he's having problems with a guy he partnered up with on a grow op. my friend was/is the money and the other dude is growing. grower is pretty much giving him the run around and not letting my boy see any profits BUT is bragging about the profits he's making off of some side shit he has going on involving the grow; just plain fucking stupid if you ask me.
now we partner up BUT its the best thing. I guess im the grower and hes the broker but were cool with that. cool cat too, guy has his wits about him, doesn't like to talk too much or to too many ppl, theres a general/mutual respect already inplace between us. I grow the plants he sells it to the market we split it al 50/50; he's happy im happy so said so done
partnerships can work BUT everyone involved has to know their lane and stay in it. he has all the connects to make things move and I don't know a soul in that arena (my first grow was 3/4lb of SSH and I was more than happy smoking every last trichome covered leaf of it on my own), I want to grow massive plants in order to have an overabundance of weed and he has no clue about plants but wants to learn so in the end it works and can slowly grow to be stronger because we both have something that the other can genuinely utilize for the betterment of the partnership.
this shit has me feelin so good i was thinking about starting a diary BUT im gonna chill out on the diaries for now, winter is coming up, storms are coming through so I don't wanna start anything up again until I get through it completely! may just do one of those "after the fact" diaries though.
IMHO yeah partnerships can work BUT you gotta know your part in the grand scheme of things and play it to the best of your ability, don't come to the table half-assin'!!!
2 partners ever..
1st (indoor) turned out to be hooked on opiates and cost me 15 months house arrest.
2nd (outdoor) was just too stupid to even haul soil.
Now my only partner is my wife, and she the "silent" type... She doesn't smoke, she just makes sure I keep myself in meds
1st (indoor) turned out to be hooked on opiates and cost me 15 months house arrest.
2nd (outdoor) was just too stupid to even haul soil.
Now my only partner is my wife, and she the "silent" type... She doesn't smoke, she just makes sure I keep myself in meds
16. They want to do stupid shit thats pointless, besides doing nothing this one bothers me the most. she wants to try all kinds of stupid shit. i tell her exactly what to do and she cant even follow simple fucking directions. i cant wait for my next two tree grows to finish up so i can move on to bigger and better solo setup lol
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AlterEgo860
have had my one and only partner.. that we actualy split harvests.. well I got fucked every time. and did more work.. and put more money in.. so .. wats that tell ya? ............
and he thought he was doing more and spending more. but wen receipts and time cards were made.. I tshowed I worked 3/4ths of the time. and spent 4/5ths of my money on it.. and he was pissed.. so that endedup a fucked situation.. and had to restart ..
then from just working with him. I went on vacation for 1 week and came back to hell.. ok first thing he did that was fucked.. I gave him a list of stuff that I follow to get shit done..
and first thing was transplant plants from cups to 1 gallon bags.. he ended up killing 5 of the 99 plants. just by dropping them.. snapping them. being to rough with them.. not caring !.. then.. 3 days later.. 25 plants died. and I mean DEAD no coming back.. I HAVE NEVER EVER seen this happen .. from transplanting before in my 12+ years of growing..
then ive had him put all the clones including the clones I had written directly on the tape on the bags MOTHER PLANT KEEP . DO NOT FLOWER.. at that time I had 50 strains.... well he put them into flower and by the time I came back from vacation.. a week on vacation. and a week to get back to work. I was gone 13 days.. all together.. I come back to check.. and all my mothers are flowering.. the 10 males.. are in there FLOWERING.. and on top of it.. he decided to top the plants the day before I got back to check.. saying he saw online that it makes u yield a lot better...
so in that 1 13 day period of time. I had 10 males.. that I only got to save 6 of the 10.. that I been saving for about 5 years at that time.. then I only could take clones off of 33 of the strains and had to reveg the clones so it just took FOREVER.. and ;in the process lost 3.. so from 50 strains to 30 strains.. in 13 days.. from 10 amazing males.. to 6 .... and from a good yield to a crap yield full of seeds because 2 of the males flowered so quickly ive never seen such a thing. because some1 decided they knew EVERYTHING ABOUT GROWING CAUSE THEY READ ONLINE that some dude did it with success..
and he thought he was doing more and spending more. but wen receipts and time cards were made.. I tshowed I worked 3/4ths of the time. and spent 4/5ths of my money on it.. and he was pissed.. so that endedup a fucked situation.. and had to restart ..
then from just working with him. I went on vacation for 1 week and came back to hell.. ok first thing he did that was fucked.. I gave him a list of stuff that I follow to get shit done..
and first thing was transplant plants from cups to 1 gallon bags.. he ended up killing 5 of the 99 plants. just by dropping them.. snapping them. being to rough with them.. not caring !.. then.. 3 days later.. 25 plants died. and I mean DEAD no coming back.. I HAVE NEVER EVER seen this happen .. from transplanting before in my 12+ years of growing..
then ive had him put all the clones including the clones I had written directly on the tape on the bags MOTHER PLANT KEEP . DO NOT FLOWER.. at that time I had 50 strains.... well he put them into flower and by the time I came back from vacation.. a week on vacation. and a week to get back to work. I was gone 13 days.. all together.. I come back to check.. and all my mothers are flowering.. the 10 males.. are in there FLOWERING.. and on top of it.. he decided to top the plants the day before I got back to check.. saying he saw online that it makes u yield a lot better...
so in that 1 13 day period of time. I had 10 males.. that I only got to save 6 of the 10.. that I been saving for about 5 years at that time.. then I only could take clones off of 33 of the strains and had to reveg the clones so it just took FOREVER.. and ;in the process lost 3.. so from 50 strains to 30 strains.. in 13 days.. from 10 amazing males.. to 6 .... and from a good yield to a crap yield full of seeds because 2 of the males flowered so quickly ive never seen such a thing. because some1 decided they knew EVERYTHING ABOUT GROWING CAUSE THEY READ ONLINE that some dude did it with success..
SmottPoker
Member
No doubt about it. Been growing with 2 other partners in a 4k room for about a year now and let me tell you what for the amount of extra work I do in there I could just be running the room myself and be way way better off. Just have the trim crew (one guy lol) come in and help me thin the bitches out every couple weeks.
Posted in 2011 and we are STILL going strong no problems at all!
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Funny..me and gro-bro been growing together for 3 years, split everything 50/50, he knows a lot about some things , I know more about others, we end up complimenting each other.
Also we happen to 1) be good friends 2) completely trust each other.
He does not drink or use anything except occasionally some smoke he has been 100% trustworthy.
I am *very* lucky and I think my situation is the outlier NOT the norm.
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Funny..me and gro-bro been growing together for 3 years, split everything 50/50, he knows a lot about some things , I know more about others, we end up complimenting each other.
Also we happen to 1) be good friends 2) completely trust each other.
He does not drink or use anything except occasionally some smoke he has been 100% trustworthy.
I am *very* lucky and I think my situation is the outlier NOT the norm.
finding a good grow partner is like hitting the lottery . the odds are about the same too
SmottPoker
Member
Yeah without trust we are all screwed lol
ColoradoOG
Member
I've been burned quite a bit, in a med state. Really comes down to people in general.. Most people suck..The good ones are extremely difficult to find. On top of that, a friend aka someone you trust enough to partner with must understand that business and friendship are two separate things. Thats something that a lot of people dont understand. The reality is most people are not fit for business either because their morals, greed or whatnot. The world is based on sheep, not on partners. This is bred into a lot of people and it shows when people take on this as a business. You have partners that dont want to do anything, or literally dont do anything. Its like pulling teeth sometimes just to get them to do simple things. Its annoying when you have to constantly bitch like some dudes mom trying to get them to clean their bedroom or make their bed. Then there is the greed factor. You always get those small minded people that like to scrap whatever they can, never thinking about the bigger picture and they burn you over stupid small shit and then finally you get those leeches. The ones that think they are obligated to your strains, your methods, and whatever else they can attach themselves to.
Most people dont have a love for shit, most people are lazy, most people dont give a rats ass about anything but themselves. Most people feel entitled and finally most people cant be trusted. Not saying you cant find great people, but usually those great people are hidden away from the rest of the world, because of how fucked up most people are.
Most people dont have a love for shit, most people are lazy, most people dont give a rats ass about anything but themselves. Most people feel entitled and finally most people cant be trusted. Not saying you cant find great people, but usually those great people are hidden away from the rest of the world, because of how fucked up most people are.
My one and only partner begged me to show him how to grow for 4 months. So I give in and set up everything and get a simple grow going at his house. After 2 weeks he starts questioning my skills and telling me im doing something wrong!! Whenever id ask him to do task he would.just blow me off!! So i poisoned 200 plants in mid flower, packed my equipment up and didnt come back.
From.now on its my money funding my grow! If I dont have the money to cover equipment and expenses i wont grow. Never again will i use someone elses money to grow.
From.now on its my money funding my grow! If I dont have the money to cover equipment and expenses i wont grow. Never again will i use someone elses money to grow.
Dream Time
Member
One common thing I see with failed partnerships in this thread is that one partner invariably has more "invested" in the grow than the other and the partner with the bigger investment is the one who gets burned.
Personally, I'd never even consider partnering with someone unless they put as much skin into the game as me. If the other guy doesn't have as much to loose, he isn't likely to put in the effort, be as careful, or have your back when things go south.
Personally, I'd never even consider partnering with someone unless they put as much skin into the game as me. If the other guy doesn't have as much to loose, he isn't likely to put in the effort, be as careful, or have your back when things go south.
ThaMagnificent
Member
