KUSHEATER1
Active member
I always find that it will be fine until harvest and then the shit starts
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Why growing with partners wont work...let's hear your opinion
- Thread starter big ballin 88
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nah.........that probably just means you didn't NOTICE the shit starting earlier.
Its like when a big boat gets a leak. Earlier you catch it, the easier it is to stop. Once that things been going for a while though, the hole's gotten bigger, there's gallons of water weighing down the boat, causing more water to come in. If you don't notice something until the boats really sinking, it means your buddy on there with ya either is really good at distracting you from reality, you have rosy glasses on permanently and overly optimistic, or you're just too thick to notice.
Nice thing is, just like with a sinking/leaking boat, if ya catch it early, you can fix the issue (get rid of the partner) or get out yourself. Catch it too late, shit will weigh you down and you'll be fighting the inderpull of the boat as its sinking.
ItGrowsHerb
Member
I have been offered partnership in setting up grows and while that is a pleasant feeling, I would start analyzing the different aspects and start to shrink away. Once it becomes business and not a hobby, especially in a non legal state, the fun kind of goes out of growing for me.
Some pointers from my perspective in choosing a partner...
Watch their habits. If they eat a fast food meal on the go away and leave the trash where they ate, not putting it in the trashcan, chances are they are not going to be conscientuous enough to know about not putting grow trash in public trashcans yet.
If they have a girlfriend and dont care who sees them making out, or more (ie leave windows and blinds open to the neighborhood kids who might ride by on the sidewalk), they might not yet have the moral respect to blend in without people getting uncomfortable when a situation arises.
Thats all from me. Brother/sister code goes a long way too, a guy or gal who has your back in normal life will have your back in a secret grow.
Some pointers from my perspective in choosing a partner...
Watch their habits. If they eat a fast food meal on the go away and leave the trash where they ate, not putting it in the trashcan, chances are they are not going to be conscientuous enough to know about not putting grow trash in public trashcans yet.
If they have a girlfriend and dont care who sees them making out, or more (ie leave windows and blinds open to the neighborhood kids who might ride by on the sidewalk), they might not yet have the moral respect to blend in without people getting uncomfortable when a situation arises.
Thats all from me. Brother/sister code goes a long way too, a guy or gal who has your back in normal life will have your back in a secret grow.
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SooperSmurph
"Partners" are bad, someone needs to be in charge, someone needs to take the reigns and claim their pot is the best, and if they fuck it up someone else needs to try, but any time you have a bunch of people working together who all think they're equals, it results in bullshit.
KUSHEATER1
Active member
do it alone better that way
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I'm not into the 'bling' or the 'pot' so I could not actually call myself a partner in that respect. (...)
But I did & do help out a lot in helping friends setting up their rooms & doing their initial maintanance untill they fare well enough to manage on their own.
So for me, there is nothing in it to just myself other than the feeling of beeing appreciated as a teacher and the reward of getting ppl to become self sufficient.
On that level there never was much trouble with no anyone.
Even though I am the boss et all, I will always first inquire a lot on how they want to go about their grow, investigating their expectations and possiblitity's etc.
Lots of communicating and agreeing first iow, just like an indoor architect would do when bussy designing someones kitchen layout or something.
But most of all, what I need to get is a good deal of insight in their personality's, life styles, backgrounds, neighbourhoods and whatever.
Things can get rather complicated sometimes, but in the end it it goes like: you can do like this, or like this, or like this, and that is it, and from that you will have to pick one. period!
To every personality there will be a suiteble way of growing, provided, you're willing to deal with their personality's and act according to who they are and what they can pull off.
You are the wisest right?
So then you are also supposed to be capable of understanding & handeling your partner! ^^
Growing together on an equal basis would only be possible if there is also a mutual equal respect.
I do have that respect towards my 'partners' & they obviously return respect to me, so hence do I find no big trouble in working with others.
If this mutual respect is not obvious though, well, than it's a totall different matter. > Then only one can be boss while others better be off sitting a corner & suck up some jointy or something.
But I did & do help out a lot in helping friends setting up their rooms & doing their initial maintanance untill they fare well enough to manage on their own.
So for me, there is nothing in it to just myself other than the feeling of beeing appreciated as a teacher and the reward of getting ppl to become self sufficient.
On that level there never was much trouble with no anyone.
Even though I am the boss et all, I will always first inquire a lot on how they want to go about their grow, investigating their expectations and possiblitity's etc.
Lots of communicating and agreeing first iow, just like an indoor architect would do when bussy designing someones kitchen layout or something.
But most of all, what I need to get is a good deal of insight in their personality's, life styles, backgrounds, neighbourhoods and whatever.
Things can get rather complicated sometimes, but in the end it it goes like: you can do like this, or like this, or like this, and that is it, and from that you will have to pick one. period!
To every personality there will be a suiteble way of growing, provided, you're willing to deal with their personality's and act according to who they are and what they can pull off.
You are the wisest right?
So then you are also supposed to be capable of understanding & handeling your partner! ^^
Growing together on an equal basis would only be possible if there is also a mutual equal respect.
I do have that respect towards my 'partners' & they obviously return respect to me, so hence do I find no big trouble in working with others.
If this mutual respect is not obvious though, well, than it's a totall different matter. > Then only one can be boss while others better be off sitting a corner & suck up some jointy or something.
+Vibes
Member
Great thread! I for one would not discourage anyone from having a partner. It's quite obvious just from reading a page or two that we all have different situations and characters to deal with. The list on page one is pretty spot-on but sometimes you just gotta make it work. It's also tough to have an objective opinion when YOU're the one on the canna website in your spare time. +1 for you, you're probably the good worker 
That being said I'll do personal recap:
be safe ya'll
That being said I'll do personal recap:
- the infamous 50/50 split is only a construct we create to make the final 'split' easier (to comprehend), it's impossible to split everything up to that point in a similar fashion, get over it, the ego will cloud your vision at some point here.
- "hierarchy" is a term used a lot here but that sounds a bit too banker to me. know and establish your role in a clear and non-combative way. try not to quantify your 'job' but rather see its value in the grow. your intelligence is obviously worth something but if you can't work power tools, well then
if you're the plant whisperer, let it be known! but just because you live on icmag doesn't mean other people can't know more than you sometimes. - if YOU are in a tight situation or can't establish the perfect op yourself, but still want to grow, partners can make sense for a while. check your ego at the mf'n door! just make it work.
- treat the op like a business but don't be that douche CEO at goldman sachs. initial capital investment is worth something. grow knowledge is worth a lot but doesn't entitle you to shit. power tools are worth something. a secure spot is worth something. sometimes people remain on the payroll just to stfu, it's part of the game.
- STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES- these people could probably use your help but in a different way. going into a high-risk situation with these types probably means you have some issues of your own, check the ego @ door.
- ~keep saving and plan your exit accordingly~
be safe ya'll
Unless your stuck with lazy hippy types that still grasp onto the folk lore from back then ,
i would have preferred to partener with someone that knew nothing,
then i could show them how i want it ...
instead i had someone that "could" already grow a smoke ,, but had no idea of basic horticulture proceedures .. .
i would still have a partner if i needed too,
but be sure we were more like minded and both had something to offer ...
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ItsTopShelf
ya no1 ever knows as much as the other... and 1 person needs to be the boss.. if the other cant fucking deal with that.. then no partners required .. me n the wife are partners with everything we do .
couchlockd
Active member
partners are good for one thing, and that is, affecting you sleep at night.
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Iffy-Caradoc
Partners.
Partners.
Trouble is ItGrowsHerb, it's usually your 'closest' - 'got your back' friends that most growers go into partnership with!
And sadly it's those 'rock solid' friends that end up showing their true colours & dissapointing you at best, getting you locked up at worst. When it comes to $/Bud - you just never know.
Stay safe
Partners.
Trouble is ItGrowsHerb, it's usually your 'closest' - 'got your back' friends that most growers go into partnership with!
And sadly it's those 'rock solid' friends that end up showing their true colours & dissapointing you at best, getting you locked up at worst. When it comes to $/Bud - you just never know.
Stay safe
couchlockd
Active member
that is very true, i had the close friend beg me for a cabinent set up with a 400wat light. nothing big, but he told everyone "he" grew and it got sloppy for him, and loose ends make you not sleep at night. and he was married and his wife was a bitch **** sister of my ex girlfriend. so you can jsut imagine the fuckery that could have ensued, but never did. i purposely did nothing to school him and let him fail miserably
THIS!!!
sometimes it just has to be done.
Rbdf
Podink Stucky
Member
I have made the mistake of partnerships in the past. Only did it because i did not want to lose my genetics....had to move. Having more than one person take care of the plants causes deviations and could decrease yield. Rule #1 is to never disclose information about the grow. More than one is too many!!!! Besides growing is about resolving all negative variables...and once this is established one cannot exceed the genetic potential. Having zero negative variables is what makes herb superb. If you decide to partner up for whatever the reason make sure to establish a recipe for care this may help guide you toward success.
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noyd666
DOnt do it , would rather have a 20 watt cfl grow of my own then a partnered 10kw grow .
TS
TS
If you need a grow partner, don't grow.
Grow partners are counter-logical.
The more you grow, the more trouble you get into.
And it breaks rule #1. Tell no one. The day you do, is the day you start having trouble sleeping.
Grow partners are counter-logical.
The more you grow, the more trouble you get into.
And it breaks rule #1. Tell no one. The day you do, is the day you start having trouble sleeping.
They'll really have your back, when they're fucking you in the asshole over their bust.
