Janis Joplin
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I have never seen this before. What I thought to be all female buds, turns out to have seeds (not many). It was a female with no problems. White Widow from Nirvana.
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Why did the White Widow have seeds?
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Germankreuz
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yeah you better slap her around and teach her a lesson!
lol; JK this happens sometimes when small hermies pop inside the buds, you cant see them but they are there. Its happened to me a few times.
lol; JK this happens sometimes when small hermies pop inside the buds, you cant see them but they are there. Its happened to me a few times.
Leaf it to me
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yup, your little girl went both ways sir.
I guess old lady White isn't a Widow anymore. 
this is a natural trigger bought about by stress... a 'survival mechanism'
as the female reaches pubescense her role is to produce seed so that her off-spring might survive to face the following season. if/when the female plant is starved of male pollen she doubles or triples in size and scent so as to attract available pollen by wind and insect.
if/when the female plant reaches a stage of maturity whereby she isn't likely to capture pollen from a sociable male, then she produces her own male parts, so as to ensure that her lineage survives to face another day in the form of seed.
this 'mechanism' is far more evident in sinsemilla crops than amid wild populations; which by nature contain a ratio of males.
hence the odd seed is often quite normal in longer flowering species, and can/should not be considered hermaphrodites in the purest sense.
the seed produced under this pressure will be 99% female with hermaphroditic tendencies displayed in flower.
peace n bloom
DocLeaf
as the female reaches pubescense her role is to produce seed so that her off-spring might survive to face the following season. if/when the female plant is starved of male pollen she doubles or triples in size and scent so as to attract available pollen by wind and insect.
if/when the female plant reaches a stage of maturity whereby she isn't likely to capture pollen from a sociable male, then she produces her own male parts, so as to ensure that her lineage survives to face another day in the form of seed.
this 'mechanism' is far more evident in sinsemilla crops than amid wild populations; which by nature contain a ratio of males.
hence the odd seed is often quite normal in longer flowering species, and can/should not be considered hermaphrodites in the purest sense.
the seed produced under this pressure will be 99% female with hermaphroditic tendencies displayed in flower.
peace n bloom
DocLeaf
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tacobell530
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Doc that was a very heartwarming story
DocLeaf said:this is a natural trigger bought about by stress... a 'survival mechanism'
as the female reaches pubescense her role is to produce seed so that her off-spring might survive to face the following season. if/when the female plant is starved of male pollen she doubles or triples in size and scent so as to attract available pollen by wind and insect.
if/when the female plant reaches a stage of maturity whereby she isn't likely to capture pollen from a sociable male, then she produces her own male parts, so as to ensure that her lineage survives to face another day in the form of seed.
this 'mechanism' is far more evident in sinsemilla crops than amid wild populations; which by nature contain a ratio of males.
hence the odd seed is often quite normal in longer flowering species, and can/should not be considered hermaphrodites in the purest sense.
the seed produced under this pressure will be 99% female with hermaphroditic tendencies displayed in flower.
peace n bloom
DocLeaf
.....good post Doc........cannabis will adapt to procreate....
lol u can tell how many glass's are haf full around here.... lol
there not hermis as way a hermi goes. its more like seedless WW nugs with 2 or 3 free fem seeds in it!!! why complain about free fem seeds? are we not growing because we want alot of pot around??? with 1 of these seeds u could grow 20 gens of white widow with out even trying.
with little to no thc drop.
there not hermis as way a hermi goes. its more like seedless WW nugs with 2 or 3 free fem seeds in it!!! why complain about free fem seeds? are we not growing because we want alot of pot around??? with 1 of these seeds u could grow 20 gens of white widow with out even trying.
with little to no thc drop.
G
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Try female seeds white widow,you'll get a pheno or two out of a 4 pak that will really surprise you.
G
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if you cant grow nirvana strains with there vigor...than its you not the seeds...i have grown many nirvana strains...the only one i didnt care for was b52
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Nice try Gypsy,this only occurs when the female is left to flower past her prime,if you have seeds its genetic.My female seeds white widow is seedless and white.
G
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and your point is...any plant can hermie...all will seed them self if let go long enough...stress is the problem with who havent dialed in there space...
and who the hell you calling gypsy
and who the hell you calling gypsy
G
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I'm sure as hell not calling you gypsy,picboy!If gypsy edits a comment thats not accurate whether its to make his seeds look better or not,I'll point it out.How TF you got into it,I'll never know.I dont associate with folks that have the kingpin syndrome
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Gee I'm sorry I'm wrong its totally normal for a female plant to produce a male flower or two even if you dont let it go too long,pff does that make sense?I didnt recall the poster saying he let his plant flower too long or his environment isnt "dialed in".Its jump on the big boy bandwagon the truth doent matter.
G
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If I seem like a dickhead I'm sorry,I dont want Janis going to bed thinking that its normal for a female plant to produce a male flower or two,it certainly isnt.You notice she said she's never seen this before,sounds like someone thats grown a few times.Too often we jump on environment when the true cause isnt that at all.Unfortunately we'el never know whether its genetic like I think or environmental like my good friend the unicorn,but to imply in any way its normal is just going to confuse newer growers.Am I the only one that notices the only time gypsy makes an appearance is when it somehow will affect him,not to help anyone in particular.O there I go again sorry lol
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I just found this article. It appears to be a good organic way but I am not sure if it is the best way as I have no clue when it comes to making fem seeds.
Peace!
I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.
To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.
For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
Peace!
I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.
To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.
For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
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hahahahaha me too
