Trichome Toker
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Amen, Germany tried, but my country actually succeeded!
Successful genocide to completion!
All your land are belong to us.
Successful genocide to completion!
All your land are belong to us.
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Who's the real terrorist!
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Yep...and to think that the pre 1500s population of American Native tribes was the same as Europes.....Thats alot of death. But hey, we are getting better! Whats left of the Indians got some crappy land off to the side....The Jews got a whole damn country!
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Rush Limbong
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Humans are always going to be like this....get used to it. Think of past times and the problems associated with Human sociology...it's all the same. Our species is not all of a sudden going to change it's pre programmed ways, it's nature. We were just the species that got lucky and evolved into what we are now...I'm sure if, let's say, dogs had evolved into the master species, I'm sure they would be having similar problems unique to their chemical makeup, but on much different levels than we would....
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I don't know much about the whole story so i can't really comment. All I can say is that to my knowledge the native americans had their land robbed while the jews were sent to camps and shoved in ovens.
All i'm really saying is that America today can be compared to nazi germany to a certain extent there are aspects that america doesn't come close to. America still has free speech. You could stand on the road and call george bush a bitch and be fine. If you did that to hitler you'd be royally fucked.
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There is no taking from the tragity of the Jews. Thats not what I am intending.o.gkushowns said:
I take it your not from the US so I'll give ya a quick history lesson.
Early 1500's the Europeans came in droves. They also brought small pox. The pox alone killed an estimated 1/3 of the entire Indian Nation. And over the next 300 years they shot, stabbed, poisoned with rotten food, marched lied to stole, killed them some more...Now a modern reservation is bleak at best. Just a bunch of shacks in wasteland for there troubles. No work, nuthin to do....cept collect the govt. hush check and go to 1 of the 12 liquor stores in the village. Shameful. Estimated total Indian deaths for the era is at 200 million. Why is it that thats not in the history books?
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PS-In the 1600s the US govt called and considered them Devils.
Also know that the Indian DID NOT start scalping. They learned it from whitey. Seems that is how they would prove the $1 bounty the govt. paid.
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PrinceOfPersia said:
Terrorist : noun
1. a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities
WordNet® 2.1, © 2005 Princeton University
Some use bombs, some use an administration.. and some others use public forums. You sound no different than they do.. maybe you should go on youtube and burn a flag to show your original individuality.
o.gkushowns
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Yes and same for the native americans.
Basically all I'm saying is that instead of calling bush a nazi we should just call him a bitch. Or maybe if you have to you could compare him to Genkiskhan cuz that was long enuff ago lol (THe guy not the member).
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Let's not forget all the casino's they are building all over the country. They have the right idea. Let the white man gamble his money away. Ummm...........the odds are with the house.Spreading Seed said:
honestly I don't think the U.S governmetn is "evil", they made some stupid decision but still what were they suppose to react after 9/11. I'm not a racist, I'm Iranian and I'm not a muslim and I'm not too fond of arabs or arab countries, most persians or Iranians I've known don't really like arabs, they basicly invaded Iran and raped everyone and converted them to muslims, now everyone forgets that and thinks they are friends.
Now I'm not saying that all arab nations such as Iraq are terrorist countries but all the radical crazy type muslims ARE the arabs, not Iranians or Turks etc.
I might just be really biased but I see many arabs (ie my neighbor is an arab family) as the highly fanatic/ religious type. In western countries where everyone is free and women are not forced to cover up their entire faces etc, you will only see arabs still doing this. Not saying their religion is terrorist in nature, obviously not but they just use it to justify their actions.
You have to view both sides, just because the United States is the superpower now and can take action and sometimes bully other nations doesn't mean they are more evil than any other country. Maybe they are evil sometimes but what they hell do you think Sadam or some other Arab leader would do if they had superpower status?
again this has nothing to do with the the type of religion you have. I"m sure most christians don't agree with the Ku Klux Klan or with Hitler.
I personally don't support war unless it's absolutely neccessary (varies with opinion) and I'm against all religions equally, except maybe budhism.
Now I'm not saying that all arab nations such as Iraq are terrorist countries but all the radical crazy type muslims ARE the arabs, not Iranians or Turks etc.
I might just be really biased but I see many arabs (ie my neighbor is an arab family) as the highly fanatic/ religious type. In western countries where everyone is free and women are not forced to cover up their entire faces etc, you will only see arabs still doing this. Not saying their religion is terrorist in nature, obviously not but they just use it to justify their actions.
You have to view both sides, just because the United States is the superpower now and can take action and sometimes bully other nations doesn't mean they are more evil than any other country. Maybe they are evil sometimes but what they hell do you think Sadam or some other Arab leader would do if they had superpower status?
again this has nothing to do with the the type of religion you have. I"m sure most christians don't agree with the Ku Klux Klan or with Hitler.
I personally don't support war unless it's absolutely neccessary (varies with opinion) and I'm against all religions equally, except maybe budhism.
about the Jews, the Jews basicly run America and they are still all over Europe and yes they now have a state of their own too.
also the hollocaust wasn't just the Jews, alot of the people killed were gypsies from Europe and they are still discriminated against all over Europe, alot of european countries have signs that say "no gypsies" and won't hire the Roma gypsies. I don't see the gypsies getting a country.
Genocide has happened to many groups of people all over the world and no one has really cared much, Genocide has happened all over Africa, Turks killed Armenians and tried to wipe them out etc.
also the hollocaust wasn't just the Jews, alot of the people killed were gypsies from Europe and they are still discriminated against all over Europe, alot of european countries have signs that say "no gypsies" and won't hire the Roma gypsies. I don't see the gypsies getting a country.
Genocide has happened to many groups of people all over the world and no one has really cared much, Genocide has happened all over Africa, Turks killed Armenians and tried to wipe them out etc.
the killing of the natives in my opinon and from reading on this topic was not like "nazi germany" The Americans and Canadians did not want to wipe out the entire race of natives in North America. Killing natives and forcing them into American culture etc was not run by racism but America and Canada were capitalist countries and they were basicly selfish and wanted money / wanted to provide for their own self interest, the natives culture and way of life was not destroyed because they hated natives but rather they wanted to build factories and railroads and cities where the natives lived and being selfish they just said screw the natives were going to push them off into the shitty lands and build a city or a factory or a highway etc here.
The motivations may have been different, but the treatment was the same. Villages were massacred, men, women, and children. Many in the military regarded the natives as sub-human as they were non-Christian heathens and alll......When asked why even babies had to be killed, one of the popular replies was "Nits make lice."
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^ well done YB..... peeps do need to remember/realize that the nazis did not just kill 6 million jews.. . they also killed almost 6 million protestants/christians and the same number of catholics..... thats 18 million dead in concentration and labor camps... so the risk is not just to 1 race of persons but pretty much all persons
so considering that can you compare the nazis with the US executive now? Still a little difficult and to be honest, the extent of the nazi activities did not really become clear until afterwards. Could this happen here? where no one knows until afterwards.
It seems with the number of people who still cannot grasp or comprehend that it could happen that way.
People also need to realize that the US is conducting actions inside Iran already. Both directly and via proxy forces - kurds and have been doing so for several months now. This Iran thing is on for sure.
peace - ironic
treb
so considering that can you compare the nazis with the US executive now? Still a little difficult and to be honest, the extent of the nazi activities did not really become clear until afterwards. Could this happen here? where no one knows until afterwards.
It seems with the number of people who still cannot grasp or comprehend that it could happen that way.
People also need to realize that the US is conducting actions inside Iran already. Both directly and via proxy forces - kurds and have been doing so for several months now. This Iran thing is on for sure.
peace - ironic
treb
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I disagree that there will be a war with Iran. It won't happen because Iran is much more powerful than all the countries that the U.S has invaded so far and they are more organized. War would equal huge losses/ casualties for the U.S so it won't be worth it for them. Iran's a country with 70 million people and it is a fairly big country and they have long range missles which is a good deterent in my opinion. Sure it's not nuclear but missles will kill lots of people.
Iraq wasn't really a war with the countries military, it's basicly U.S forces vs guerilla fighters with ak 47s and grenades and civil war within the country.
I remember in the beginning of the war they shot a bunch of 70s russian skuds that landed in the desert haha.
the U.S arleady knew that Iraq had zero military capability so that's why they invaded, everything Iraq had was bought from the U.S when Sadam was not in the axis of evil. They basicly sold all the military dinasour technology to Sadam so he was never a threat.
the U.S can only estimate what the Iranian capabilities are because they manufacture a lot of the misles etc themselves.
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Iraq wasn't really a war with the countries military, it's basicly U.S forces vs guerilla fighters with ak 47s and grenades and civil war within the country.
I remember in the beginning of the war they shot a bunch of 70s russian skuds that landed in the desert haha.
the U.S arleady knew that Iraq had zero military capability so that's why they invaded, everything Iraq had was bought from the U.S when Sadam was not in the axis of evil. They basicly sold all the military dinasour technology to Sadam so he was never a threat.
the U.S can only estimate what the Iranian capabilities are because they manufacture a lot of the misles etc themselves.
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fr33th3w33d
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treble said:
yeah, don't forget the 27 million russians. fucking hitler and his goons took my grandpa's toe.
Jeebus, Yummy actually impressed me for a change with his comments in here. Well said man, good job.
Chrimeny, he surprised me enough to scatter my own thoughts, I can't form a proper comment of my own at the moment....
Chrimeny, he surprised me enough to scatter my own thoughts, I can't form a proper comment of my own at the moment....
Northern_Greens
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ha they know exactly what the iranians have YB, youd be scared to learn all of what they really know and do in the world. Also Israel is right there too, with a great military thats all U.S. funded and whatnot. I'm sure they would be happy to help their masters that they owe for the land. IMO the unchecked government of America is begining to show some what Nazish tendancies but i would not compare them to each other. America is on a different scale and i beleive that when all of the truth comes out it will be a great list of atrocities with large death tolls..........
^ you're probably right.
I wouldn't support a war against Iran because a lot of innocent people will die and the country is going to be in ruins but I also wouldn't support the Iranian government, most of them are not even persians and don't represent the country and imo they look like a bunch of fanatic idiots and give the rest of the Iranians a bad name.
The president of Iran Ahmenijidad or whatever his name is is definately not persian (majority of the people are) and yet he's the one running the country and representing all the people. I'm not an expert on this but I think after the Iranian revolution all these religious fanatics (most not beign persian but other minority races)
took over the government.
anyways yeah I guess you are right, the U.S might attack in the near future, but it would not be an invasion that would be way too costly, it might just be an airstrike on nuclear facilities. If they do that I'm not sure what would happen, I doubt the Iranians would just take an attack without retaliating which then would lead to an invasion/ war.
I guess it's just life. Just like you can't stop nature, you can't stop wars, there will never be world peace because wars are a part of human nature and have always existed and will continue to exist forever. The only thing that will change in the future is who has more power and who kills whom first.
After all humans are just another species of animals. We like to think of humans as separate from the animal kingdom but if you look at baboons and chimps and the other apes, humans are just apes with language and greater technology, we still have the same instincts and behaviours. Baboons fight other groups of baboons because of fear, disrespect, pride etc it's same with us.
The only way to have world peace would be for all countries to simultaneously destroy and disarm all of their weapons, get rid of all religion which is suppose to do "good", get rid of countries and borders and have a world where everyone lives as one nation.
yeah maybe Disney can come up with that, Lions and Hyenas will also be best friends singing songs and eating veggie burgers.
I wouldn't support a war against Iran because a lot of innocent people will die and the country is going to be in ruins but I also wouldn't support the Iranian government, most of them are not even persians and don't represent the country and imo they look like a bunch of fanatic idiots and give the rest of the Iranians a bad name.
The president of Iran Ahmenijidad or whatever his name is is definately not persian (majority of the people are) and yet he's the one running the country and representing all the people. I'm not an expert on this but I think after the Iranian revolution all these religious fanatics (most not beign persian but other minority races)
took over the government.
anyways yeah I guess you are right, the U.S might attack in the near future, but it would not be an invasion that would be way too costly, it might just be an airstrike on nuclear facilities. If they do that I'm not sure what would happen, I doubt the Iranians would just take an attack without retaliating which then would lead to an invasion/ war.
I guess it's just life. Just like you can't stop nature, you can't stop wars, there will never be world peace because wars are a part of human nature and have always existed and will continue to exist forever. The only thing that will change in the future is who has more power and who kills whom first.
After all humans are just another species of animals. We like to think of humans as separate from the animal kingdom but if you look at baboons and chimps and the other apes, humans are just apes with language and greater technology, we still have the same instincts and behaviours. Baboons fight other groups of baboons because of fear, disrespect, pride etc it's same with us.
The only way to have world peace would be for all countries to simultaneously destroy and disarm all of their weapons, get rid of all religion which is suppose to do "good", get rid of countries and borders and have a world where everyone lives as one nation.
yeah maybe Disney can come up with that, Lions and Hyenas will also be best friends singing songs and eating veggie burgers.
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Maybe a nuke will go off in 1 or a couple of our cities...a new 9/11. That'll justify nukes on Iran. How conveiniant.
If the US invades Iran I'm packing my family and my shit up and getting the fuck outta here...O' Canada.
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If the US invades Iran I'm packing my family and my shit up and getting the fuck outta here...O' Canada.
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YB I have to disagree, we dont have to have a war. They want to have a war so they can lock you down. SS... as for Canada. The plans are well underway to open up Canada and mexico and merge the 3 countries into one.
You have read about the mega highways that will be running from Texas to Canada? If anyone is in Texas on this Friday - Texas independence day then perhaps joining in the anti highway protests could be your thing. infowars.com has more
You have heard about the imigration issues and how so many people are coming across the border. If you can dilute the country by merging it and changing the nature of its people from born and bred to imported you can reduce the patriotism and related issues within a population.
This is important from a uprising point of view in that you will have less potential for uprising because the people are not nationalistic... they're not from around here and the military is not so partiotic because they also are not from around here. so they would not be so hesitant to fire on the population.... why? because the population is not their people.
A military is primarily a defence force and is designed to protect the people from internal and external threat. The internal threat or prosecution of rebelious people, could result in a coup if the military take the side of the people. This often happens if the military is "of the people".
In the case of the US this is becoming less the case. Some 20% of military personnel are not US citizens. You also have the mercenaries who operate for money only plus the booty. Countries have used this techique for centuries and indeed most did. The vikings, the Brittish, Scotts, Alexander da Great all used mercenaries who were hired on the basis of:
success payment plus a possible bonus
any other sundry loot or booty including alcohol, food and women
anything further for entertainment eg. slaughter, torture etc
This meant the fighters would only get paid if their side was victorious plus they would get all the satsifaction they wanted from the local population. This is what happens when an army goes marauding. This is what we see with the US and Iraqi forces currently working through the capital and it is what we will probably see everywhere they go. It is part of the oppression.
Of course the Iraq operations are really to terrorize and purge people from areas. This will segerate the country on ethnic lines and dilute their bargaining power through disagreement. Divide and conquer.
Don't be fooled that the us is fighting a war against insurgents. This is not the case. They are fighting a war against the people.
treb
You have read about the mega highways that will be running from Texas to Canada? If anyone is in Texas on this Friday - Texas independence day then perhaps joining in the anti highway protests could be your thing. infowars.com has more
You have heard about the imigration issues and how so many people are coming across the border. If you can dilute the country by merging it and changing the nature of its people from born and bred to imported you can reduce the patriotism and related issues within a population.
This is important from a uprising point of view in that you will have less potential for uprising because the people are not nationalistic... they're not from around here and the military is not so partiotic because they also are not from around here. so they would not be so hesitant to fire on the population.... why? because the population is not their people.
A military is primarily a defence force and is designed to protect the people from internal and external threat. The internal threat or prosecution of rebelious people, could result in a coup if the military take the side of the people. This often happens if the military is "of the people".
In the case of the US this is becoming less the case. Some 20% of military personnel are not US citizens. You also have the mercenaries who operate for money only plus the booty. Countries have used this techique for centuries and indeed most did. The vikings, the Brittish, Scotts, Alexander da Great all used mercenaries who were hired on the basis of:
success payment plus a possible bonus
any other sundry loot or booty including alcohol, food and women
anything further for entertainment eg. slaughter, torture etc
This meant the fighters would only get paid if their side was victorious plus they would get all the satsifaction they wanted from the local population. This is what happens when an army goes marauding. This is what we see with the US and Iraqi forces currently working through the capital and it is what we will probably see everywhere they go. It is part of the oppression.
Of course the Iraq operations are really to terrorize and purge people from areas. This will segerate the country on ethnic lines and dilute their bargaining power through disagreement. Divide and conquer.
Don't be fooled that the us is fighting a war against insurgents. This is not the case. They are fighting a war against the people.
treb
