White Widow

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The only place I know of to get the original is from Joey weed from HempDepot. He has a mother of the original white widow offering from GH and makes f2s with it. This is a mother of the plant that created the WW legend and you will see why it was so acclaimed after growing it
Its the only source I know of for the actual original strain.


Second for me would be Dutch passions bought from Seed Botique. It is a very good plant with high MF ratios.

 

[Dalaihempy]

The only place I know of to get the original is from Joey weed from HempDepot. He has a mother of the original white widow offering from GH and makes f2s with it. This is a mother of the plant that created the WW legend and you will see why it was so acclaimed after growing it
Its the only source I know of for the actual original strain.


Second for me would be Dutch passions bought from Seed Botique. It is a very good plant with high MF ratios.

hi silverback hate to say this but you have it so wrong i think you need to do a little research.

Joey is a nice guy but his not the breeder of the widow that man is shantibaba who was the part owner of greenhouse seeds and in house breeder at greenhouse seeds then sold and started Mr nice seed co theres inuf to get you started on your research happy reading.



8th Cannabis Cup (1995) Winners
Category: Cannabis Cup

White Widow - Greenhouse Tolstraat
Bubblegum - Grey Area
B.C. Bud - Darren Morgan

 

[franco.gh]

White Widow (Winner Bio High Times Cannabis Cup 1995)

The Green House Seed Co. original White Widow (created by Ingemar and Arjan in the early 1990s, and copied ever since) is one of the most well known strains in the world. The genetics are a cross between a Brazilian and South Indian. The effect White Widow has when smoked is a relaxing indica feeling that evolves in a bursting sativa high, it is a very complex and enjoyable effect. Indoor grows take about 8-9 weeks flowering with a yield of 400 to 600 gr/sqm. The yield for outdoor grows is up to 900 gr/plant if allowed to develop massive size. White Widow is a great resin producer and is very resistant to mould.


few shots:

this plant was grown in a 65 litres container, rockwool flakes, hydro open system, manual watering.
And she harvested a lot of bud....

 

[slimshady]

Very Nice pics. well done.

 

[ElectroSticky]

Nice to see franco arround with some pics


Killer WW

i´m happy i got those femmed beans

 

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White Widow (Winner Bio High Times Cannabis Cup 1995)

The Green House Seed Co. original White Widow (created by Ingemar and Arjan in the early 1990s, and copied ever since) is one of the most well known strains in the world.

Now if this doesnt take the cake. Here we have a company, with a copy of the original White Widow claiming others in fact have the copy, while they possess the original lol. And he disrespects the original breeder(Shantibaba) in the process by not giving him credit.

Its as if you think this bullshit will actually fly in a community of informed marijuana potsmen lol. You must have alot of balls, but obviously short on brains.

 

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Nice to see franco arround with some pics


Killer WW

i´m happy i got those femmed beans

Look at Electrosticky, cheer leading for Greenhouse seeds and participating in purposely misleading members of this community inexperienced enough to decipher fact from con artist story. He apparently has more of an allegiance to the GreenHouse, than the members of this community. Otherwise, he wouldnt follow franco and Jack around thread to thread, cheer leading for them and spouting off more ignorant, ill informed opinions to support The GreenHouse's propaganda.

 

[RetroGrow]

Well, I'm not going to get into the politics of pot, but I am growing White Widow now for the first time. Just started to show trichs a few days ago, and already the fan leaves are getting covered. Looks like it will be pretty impressive. I will post pictures soon. I bought them at Greenhouse while in the Dam, because they had fems, but would also like to get some from Shantibaba.

 

[donutsandwich]

serious seeds doesnt make white rhino... AFAIK mr. nice medicine man is the original white rhino and black widow is the original white widow... i think aloha white widow might be clone only?? dont quote me on any of this... im no jason king... lol....

franco thats a nice plant there do u ahve any pics of the 65 liter container? that seems rather large! impressive work



i had a 5 pack of GHS white widow fems a while back when i was inexperienced and wasted them..... one seemed like a mutant in hindsight... but im sure i mistreated the young seedlings and caused their demise... its unfotunate i coudlnt experience the widow myself

 

[Dalaihempy]

Hi all

there are a load of F1 widow plants going round and being sold as BW or WW clones etc but the father of the widow which is reponsible for the original seed that won it fame is only with us at MNS. I know that GHSco use another since I left in 98, and Ingemar uses yet another and so on...all claim to be the original etc...but if you do some research on grow reports etc you will discover the one you need .All the best Shantibaba
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all the best,
Shantibaba
www.mrnice.nl


Hi All

well most of you are clear about your experiences with Arjan's seed post 1998 when i sold him my half of the company and left to Swiss setting up the Mr Nice Seedbank at the same time.

Since 1998 I must have answered several thousand complaints against Arjan's seed which he sells under GHSco. He will never admit it but he lost or killed most all plants that were left to him so he basically buys in seed from Ingemar(which is unpredictable at best) or tries to avoid true breeding by using hormones to feminize seed. The reason he feminizes seed is two fold, one it sells well to beginners or people wanting to only get females, and two because he has no idea of what male to breed with...nor does he have the males so as an alternative use the hormones to make seed from the female...a job anyone can do. The only problem now will come when people grow his types. And just a small tip for anyone who really wants to know, the loudest sound comes from an empty barrel...that is why he has god knows how many strains named after his own self...is it ego or insecurity...I will leave it to you to figure.

One last thing is if anyone of his internet sites dealt with complaints my life and work load would be so much lighter. A self acclaimed king...but actually a glorified dope dealer nothing more nothing less. Here endeth the story...all the best Sb
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all the best,
Shantibaba
www.mrnice.nl


Hi all

it never ceases to amaze me about those insecure people. If all these people did as they said including Ingemar why did I win in 1995 with the GHSco this award and then the year later make the seeds available when they were ready. If all these geniuses were who they claim they were why are they still talking about it in 2006 almost 10 years after the fact. Why am I not angry at Nirvana or Dutch Passion when they came and purchased a single packet off me in 1996 and the following year both had it available on their seed list etc....And if anyone does the correct research in chronological order you will see there was only one set of parents making this strain, so whatever the genetics of all these other companies are that produce a strain called WW I know what I make and where it really comes from. There are certain questions related to breeding I could ask that would surely show that these seed producers are all using at best F1s of the originals like what is on sale from MNS!
Finally if this Ecoman who claims he is the one who people are making money from his product, really thinks about it he should be happy and complimented that people are doing well from his product...otherwise he would not even have a reason to complain, would he?

All the best SB

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Last edited by shantibaba : 10-13-2006 at 05:04 PM.
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all the best,
Shantibaba
www.mrnice.nl
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Franco you know what i thort was the best part of all the GHS videos ?, The part were the guy from High Times guy turns to Arjan and says Yes the Nevilles Haze was Nevilles Favorite strain and Arjan went quiet never thort Arjan could do quiet before that lol.




The Trueth will Set You Free Franco

 

[headshot]

so is the black widow worth all the hype that ww has created?

 

[Thunders77]

Shanti clears up pretty much everything about the original, and his reputation speaks for itself.
I do have some questions about the much fabled Aloha 98 Widow, such as from what source did it originate? Also Is Aloha still producing anything close to this quality? Anybody here ever grow any Aloha Widow out?

 

[Dalaihempy]

Shanti clears up pretty much everything about the original, and his reputation speaks for itself.
I do have some questions about the much fabled Aloha 98 Widow, such as from what source did it originate? Also Is Aloha still producing anything close to this quality? Anybody here ever grow any Aloha Widow out?

Hiya Thunders77 it was rumored Aloha stole a cut from the widow on display at the cup and used a sk plant to make Aloha 98 Widow now what was funny in all this if true is shanti stated that the widow on show at the cup Aloha alegedly stole the cut from at the cup was in fact an f1 widow any one of us could go out and by a pack of.

 

[Cali smoke]

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all the best,
Shantibaba
www.mrnice.nl
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Franco you know what i thort was the best part of all the GHS videos ?, The part were the guy from High Times guy turns to Arjan and says Yes the Nevilles Haze was Nevilles Favorite strain and Arjan went quiet never thort Arjan could do quiet before that lol.




The Trueth will Set You Free Franco

Who's neville, here's the video he was talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-tuSbuv79E

happens about 4:00

 

[ElectroSticky]

OUTLAW420

OUTLAW420

OK ...

i have to give you credit , you managed to do a couple of post without offensive namecalling or entabling childlike discutions...

NOW...

do you really think that Shantibaba feels disrespected by arjan ..

i mean they both have companys , and it´s all bussiness , i know ..

but...they worked toghether , and Neville preety much worked with both of them ..at the same time...

PLUS...

shanti has always made it clear for all of us..

The parents used are by MNS on some lines are identical to the ones of GHS ... (like ssh , ww ... )

I dont know what point you plan on reaching ...

calling me a ´´cheerleader´´ for GHS .. i only cheer for good marijuana it can be GHS , MNS , paradise , reservoir...just show it to me....

or

calling GHS a bullshit seedbank and it's workers dishonest , when clearly you are the one thinking you are gonna discover a lie ...

come on bro´ the true has been out there for YEARS ... you just dont believe it.


all these ´´commercial´´ seedbanks are respectable to me...and i say commercial seeds becouse i believe them to be the best you can get on a vacation to holland

GHS , MNS , Paradise Seeds , Sensi Seeds , Reservoir Seeds , SomaSeeds , Dutch Passion , Sagarmatha , flying dutch ....these guys are flying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

most other seedbanks are nice , just still trying to fly ...


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Let me show you how it works for me Outlaw...no BS...

....GO!!



.....Mommy.....

..cut´s stretch ....

...oooops....

.....

Peace

 

[Dalaihempy]

Who's neville, here's the video he was talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-tuSbuv79E

happens about 4:00

If you dont know who neville is research or ask franco.

 

[Dalaihempy]

White Widow (Winner Bio High Times Cannabis Cup 1995)

The Green House Seed Co. original White Widow (created by Ingemar and Arjan in the early 1990s, and copied ever since) is one of the most well known strains in the world. The genetics are a cross between a Brazilian and South Indian.

The trueth will set you free franco

Hi All

obviously many people sent me this link as they believe all of this to be offensive. In this unregulated world of seed companies it is hard to know the truth. But after all these years of producing alot of strains, this dis information is ridiculous. Doc leaf you seem to know alot of things that I do not...where is this source of info coming from. The last thing I will add to this thread is that all the strain write up from the Greenhouse up until recently were written by me as well and the knowledge of the origins etc... it seems strange that this sort of marketing ploy comes about now and not back in 1996 when I owned the Greenhouse seed company along with Arjan.

I find all of this another case of confusing the public for personal gains, at the discredit of others. It reinforces the fact that the loudest sounds come from an empty barrel not a full one!

Do your homework and be aware of info online. All the best Sb

Hi all

it never ceases to amaze me about those insecure people. If all these people did as they said including Ingemar why did I win in 1995 with the GHSco this award and then the year later make the seeds available when they were ready. If all these geniuses were who they claim they were why are they still talking about it in 2006 almost 10 years after the fact. Why am I not angry at Nirvana or Dutch Passion when they came and purchased a single packet off me in 1996 and the following year both had it available on their seed list etc....And if anyone does the correct research in chronological order you will see there was only one set of parents making this strain, so whatever the genetics of all these other companies are that produce a strain called WW I know what I make and where it really comes from. There are certain questions related to breeding I could ask that would surely show that these seed producers are all using at best F1s of the originals like what is on sale from MNS!
Finally if this Ecoman who claims he is the one who people are making money from his product, really thinks about it he should be happy and complimented that people are doing well from his product...otherwise he would not even have a reason to complain, would he?

All the best SB

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Last edited by shantibaba : 10-13-2006 at 05:04 PM.
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all the best,
Shantibaba
www.mrnice.nl

 

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Today, 06:49 PM

I actually read your post, but decided since you obviously havent aligned yourself with the facts through research, that I was tired of reading your opinions. So you can safely go on about your business, post your ill informed opinions and cheer lead for GHSC all you would like now. Im done pointing out how inexperienced you're, but I am confident others will be able to read your posts and see the glaring contradictions, false "facts" and nuthuggery of GHSC and other members of this forum.


Good day kid, maybe one day years from now you will reach legitimate veteran status and your information and knowledge will grow as you spend time on these boards.


The truth is what counts, not bullshit propaganda and hype.

 

[ElectroSticky]

the true has been out there for YEARS ... you just dont believe it

so it seems to me the Green House Seed co. has the originals from shanti and breeders of the time in GHSco ...

as well as Shantibaba and MNS , off couse got the original too.....

probably Neville as well ...




thanks on adding me to your ignore list outlawed !!!!

its a good list to be in,,, and thanks ..
you will see everything mine Grow as i spend time on these forum....

when can i see some of yours

or let me guess .. you so veteran you retired now????? ....

 

[Dalaihempy]

so it seems to me the Green House Seed co. has the originals from shanti and breeders of the time in GHSco ...

as well as Shantibaba and MNS , off couse got the original too.....

probably Neville as well ...

You seam to forget shanti was part owner of GHS and did all the breeding with neville at GHS Arjan only did the sales fact all the strain info at GHS was done by shanti .

I dont have a probleam with GHS but many others do my probleam is when i read bull shit and arjan laying claim to breeding arjan is no breeder i dont think his even a grower.

GHS wish they had the perent stock is more like it .